betsy

Nice try. But it doesn't compare to the idea behind Dion's back-to-back flipflops. Yours is like saying... Tuesday: Mom, this is my bestfriend Fred. Friday: Fred is no longer my bestfriend. I caught him smooching my girlfriend. That's not a flipflop. That's sound decision!

Of course those who'd had always believed in Nazism will still harbor nagging sentiments of it....and with what's happening as shown by the link I provided ("Piggybacking...."), and what's happening around the world....more likely they'd now be saying, "See?" I had seen on tv some citizens of the Netherlands being interviewed about the banning of the burkas. Most of them, women. When asked "why is it necessary to ban the burka when only a few women are wearing it?" They are practically identical with their flat answer: "Why? Because they are in The Netherlands!" The tone of the answer says a lot. The failing system of multiculturalism, where-in the host country is the one that is being required to give up much of its own culture for the sake of appeasement is fanning the flames that would only lead to intolerance. And I worry (like a lot of other Non-Muslim ethnic members of the western community), that intolerance will end up being extended to ALL. There is no denying that only one group is giving the world such a headache right now, being a threat to everyone. Do you think "anti-western" sentiments had ever left every individual who comes to the west?

That's why the culture of those people who came from oppressive regimes must "evolve" with us. We cannot have a different level of rights for women! All women must have the same rights and freedom.

But your insulting referral to my thread...with the provided link to it, is serious. With malicious intent. Considering the history between us. I had invited Greg to come to this thread. Malicious intent? A parody? The only intent of a parody is to demonstrate the ridiculousness of the target. If you feel hurt and upset by that and consider it "malicious" I would suggest you are being a little overly fragile. The target of this parody was, quite obviously, ridiculous. No, not hurt or upset. I'm just amazed about the ease with which you flaunt breaking the rules of this forum, as outlined by the various evidences provided on this thread. And this has been going on for quite sometime. I guess if you cannot understand the difference between the Kerry thread and this thread, which several fellow-posters had explained to you in simple terms ...then there's no point I guess in even acknowledging your posts or comments.

Yes to all of the above. They may have a better chance at recourse or self-defense or even survival in Canada. Only if they come out of their cultural repressions. Being in Canada does not offer any better chance if they are segregated...which multi-culturalism encourages! Only through integration and assimilation...can they feel free to enjoy what Canada has to offer. The Labour Party stance is knocking down divisive walls...oppressive walls that keep some citizens still in the grip of oppression...within a free nation. Multi-culturalism had practically sanctioned some oppressions to continue!

Why do we suddenly have a slew of moms...not only content with killing themselves....but also their children? It's quite rare to hear of this 30 or so years ago....but now, it's practically everyday news. What is causing this phenomenon?

Some women from India silently endure domestic abuse in Canada, because of the culture they brought from India. Nobody came forward to report the abuses. Usually, even their own families or parents will not interfere. It became news when a conference was held by some Indian Women activists. It became news only because of the spate of Indian women killed by their spouses recently. Do women die when their clit is cut? I guess not. Can a docile women, cowed by fear drive and toss away her burka if she wants to, or report her husband for beating up on her? We want to imagine they can do all those. But whom are we kidding? IF the western world that had always had a democratic free society can still have the problems of western women being abused by their spouses...what more with women who'd been raised and conditioned by repressive societies?

I know the matter had been setteld in the House. However, there are several callers on CPAC who would like to see a referendum on the matter. Someone had noted the vote that happened in the House was not all democratic since the NDP had whipped their members. And as a caller had sarcastically stated with a laugh, the MPs are there for their careers...not for their constituents.

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Whaaat?? All I know is that NOW, we no longer have a free eye check-up....but we can have a free sex change! And all I know is that Then, everyone has a family doctor....and Now, you're lucky if you find one! And all I know is that there's tons of money that got squandered on scams and corruptions...money that could've injected life into our troubled healthcare system!

Like Alec Baldwin and Redford....they never did leave the US, did they? People like to gripe. That's the way it is. Lighten up.

Betsy, why do you say "if"? Your free-will extended to a choice of father for your children. (Betsy, you chose your husband and he chose you, no?) Parents choose children. When people choose to marry, they choose children of the marriage. Parents of children have made this choice for, well, an eternity.Such is life. ---- Liable? ROTFL. How can we enforce that contract? Life and the sex of a child are random. We're are all liable. But people usually have no control over their emotions or urges, thus some would still marry or have sex with a dwarf knowing that this provides a possibility (because there's no guarantee the child will take up the gene of the father's dwarfism), that might produce a dwarf. It still follows naturalism. It's still a hit or miss. But deliberately choosing a gene to ENSURE that your child is born a dwarf....it is somehow different.

And it prevents non-French-speaking citizens from having access to a lot of good paying jobs that now make "bilingualism" a requirement. It's easy for them to say, "well We'll provide the training for French language." But reality is: it takes years to learn how to speak passably....not to mention that not all people have the aptitude for picking up languages just like that! Isn't that grounds for denying equal opportunity?

This is fun! I would like to add on policy #6, the importance of physical activity. Therefore, bike rides are a must! Or jogging to work. Do not use beasts for public transportation . It is not the horses or the donkeys who need to lose weight... Definitely no more school buses! If those kids can run for cancer, or diabetes, or their little tickers...then they can definitely run to school!

But your insulting referral to my thread...with the provided link to it, is serious. With malicious intent. Considering the history between us. I had invited Greg to come to this thread.

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I think Gerry is being vindictive. And the whole board is being forced to go on this ride He personally attacks me on the other thread, and reported me to Greg to what he felt was a “third party insult.” I had been anxiously waiting for any warning or message from Greg, but fortunately there was none at all…so I am assuming Greg did not find anything wrong with what I wrote. And I am assuming, this only got Gerry all the more mad and out to provoke me in any way into getting down to his level! Post#6 Anti-Semitic Campaign Against Rae Exposed! http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....topic=7453&st=0 This is harassment! To post a new thread just so to engage in personal attack and insult…and then directly put the link to mine, just so to make sure we all know who is the “idiot” he’s referring to! And what does this statement mean? "For those outraged looking for a place to express your outrage, I give you the source:" Is Gerry trying to get others to gang up on me here? Is he forming a lynch mob? A personal bash-fest? Post #1 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=7467 Not to mention being an annoyance. He’s being disruptive. It’s like having a spoiled brat who’s deliberately making all sorts of noises to keep people from having their discussion. Just because he does not see it as relevant to him…therefore he thinks it should not be discussed at all! He trying to take over the board! Something’s Happening To The CBC Post # 42 #45, Post#49 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....opic=7435&st=30 He uses personal insults and put-down remarks without restraint! Including to newcomers! Without even bothering to disguise it with any form of, or even make any attempt at discussion. He is just plainly trashing the threads that he does not agree with! http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....opic=7458&st=15 So he's gravely in violation of this as well: “INSULTS Insults are the ammunition of the unintelligent - do not use them. It is okay to criticize a policy, decision, action or comment. Such criticism is part of healthy debate. It is not okay to criticize a person's character or directly insult them, regardless of their position or actions. Derogatory terms such as "loser", "idiot", etc are not permitted unless the context clearly implies that it is not serious. Rule of thumb: Play the ball, not the person (i.e. tackle the argument, not the person making it). People who have a history of antagonistic behaviour will be treated more harshly than those who do not. “

I'd give my left leg to move out of Canada and go to the US. It would be a dream for me. I don't feel like I belong in this country. That's what my husband's been saying to me....that if we could only easily pack up and go, we should go. We were saying that we should try to swap places with those Americans who want to move to Canada. Like an exchange program.

And do you believe that's the Liberal hidden agenda? Maybe Dutch-Canadians are the architects of this hidden agenda. Did you know that more than 400,000 people of Dutch origin are permanent residents of Canada? Source: http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/canada-europa...n_nether-en.asp Let's investigate whether Dutch-Canadians vote for Liberals. I don't think they're trying to hide it. And I guess it's not exactly Holland. Could be other Scandinavian countries. About a couple of weeks ago, a Liberal Strategist and a rep for the federation of taxpayers were on a talk show on CPAC (I think it was Sound-Off, on a Sunday, where they have phone callers giving comments and asking questions). I can't remember exactly now what the main discourse was all about...if I'm not mistaken, it's about the programs that were slashed. But definitely it had something to do with taxes. A caller said that he was actually agreeing to what the Liberal rep was saying.....until the Liberal rep mentioned and extolled the policies of "Sweden." The caller then scoffed at the Liberals trying to veer towards socialism.

If parents can make choices and decisions that has a great impact on the child....and of course choices will be based on what the parents want....can they be made liable for anything by their son/daughter in the future?

It's disgusting! And to think they had the same kind of problem from the last one!

Stupid flame bait. This kind of garbage is like spam. Try to reach for a slightly higher level of discourse C. Catch89, welcome to the forum. Personal insults such as the response you've received above are not the norm on Mapleleaf. You'll find that practically everyone here are sensible and has the sense of proper decorum. I normally ignore little irritants....but on a couple of occasions had reported and filed a complaint to Admin. Anyway, back to your topic.... Yes, I believe it's being fashioned after Holland.

I think Harper should call an independent investigation. If the blame falls mostly on the Liberals for this, let it happen. If there is blame enough for everyone including Arar, let that happen too. And to get this topic back on track... Yes. They really have to get to the bottom of this. I am assuming Arar is completely innocent, based on what I've heard from the news. What happened to him and his family is so scary.

Your antics in commenting on a topic to say you don't care about it is irrelevant to this topic and to 99.999% of the population. I'd say to those who don't care about our discussion here......go! Shoooo!

Thanks for the links. I didn't know of that.