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Chrétien to PM: 'Can I call you Steve, like George W.?'
betsy replied to comup's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Of course his war opponents like the Taliban and those who are against Israel have most certainly said something against him. I don't know if anybody did the dance of La Cucuracha stomping on Bush doll on a tv talk show. If there were any criticisms or mudslinging, they're done in the context of them fighting for their own cause. It is what you might expect from your enemies or those who support your enemies. But Canada was supposed to be sitting on the fence when it happened! We were supposed to be on good terms with the US, their "friend"...our major trading partner! And here is Chretien giving Harper an advice on trade and foreign relations? "Engage then, not insult them!" It's like a scam artist lecturing a school kid on the importance and virtue of honesty! -
I would include reading books that weren't included in the Bible (Gospel of Thomas for example) and consider other spiritual leaders (such as Buddha) and modern spirituality. And throw in a sprinkle of evolution and you'll have a good mix. I would never limit myself to just one narrow path such as Christianity. I would suggest reading just the New Testament. Focusing on it. Contemplate on it. Really tinker with it. For now. Read it as you would read any other old book of philosophy and self-development. And I strongly suggest that when you do decide to read the New Testament, you do so without contaminating your perception by thinking outright, "this is just a narrow path of Christianity." You defeat the purpose by judging it on the outset. I find that Jesus seemed to have addressed issues on health and preventing/handling stress (although of course they were worded...and presented quite so differently). Who knows, maybe it is poor health and a lot of stress that distracts us from achieving our true potentials!
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Chrétien to PM: 'Can I call you Steve, like George W.?'
betsy replied to comup's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Please let us all in on any leaders who had publicly insulted Dubya? Carolyn Parrish's stomp dance on a Bush doll on tv! Calling the group of allied nations "coalition of the idiots!" I forgot exactly what Martin said in his criticism of the US regarding the environment around election time....but it surely backfired and landed like a pie on his face! "Can I call you Steve, like George W?" Will we find it amusing if Jay Leno say with a crooked grin, "My name is Johnny , <snort>, and I come from Shawinigate, eh?" -
But what lies? If you mean of how events were perceived, written and translated....yes, possibly there could've been some inaccuracies, after all they were all written by men. Perhaps important, significant messages were missed and perceived in a different way. You've been less enamored of the Catholic religion, and it seems that emotion is keeping you from looking at what could be possible from an objective point of view. If we speak of mistakes, well science has a load of it too. And if we speak of lies, well society had been told lies by propagandas in the name of science....depending on what "truth" or agenda is being pushed for public consumption.
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Chrétien to PM: 'Can I call you Steve, like George W.?'
betsy replied to comup's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
That's a food for thought. He is the "little guy..." and little guys are allowed to be corrupt? And they can relate because little guys will do the same if they have the opportunity that he had? -
Chrétien to PM: 'Can I call you Steve, like George W.?'
betsy replied to comup's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Yes, but regardless of how the international community feel towards a leader, Chretien was in no position to give this advice to Harper: Engage them, not insult them. How many leaders from other nations had publicly insulted Dubya? Yes they criticized Dubya...but I don't think any leaders or their ministers acted in such unbecoming manners. You got to admit, Chretien and Martin's government were like juveniles in their handling of the US, particularly Bush. And judging by Chretien's last speech....he had not learned to improve his manners. -
See Christ. He simplified everything. Instead of molecules and calculations of space and all those scientific terms that makes simple folks like me reel in all its complexities...that after reading it numerous times, I feel so stupid because I could not understand anymore than I did the first time. Don't get me wrong, I am not criticizing your view points. You've got enquiring minds, and a more sort of obssessive-compulsive need to see through. I am not trying to convert you or anything. I am just suggesting, read the New Testatment...and focus on it...contemplate the possibilities...about what Christ could be really teaching and showing mankind. Do not look at it as a religious book. Look at it as a Self-Help, how-to.
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He was big on FISH and WINE! In fact, He MULTIPLIED THEM BOTH! What does science tells us today? EAT A LOT OF FISH and DRINK RED WINE!
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oh i know! i saw a documentery on this, the hole: "i will take the sickness of the devil out a ya!" thing. or are you talking about the "all faith" church at the hospital, or the death morning by rejoice. I'm talking about this. And if I'm not mistaken, our healthcare cover this now, or there was a petition to have it recognized and covered. "A. Holistic Healing is a term that can be easily interchangeable with many other names commonly used in the healing community such as: • Alternative Medicine • Complementary Medicine • Holistic Health • Integrative Medicine Holistic or "wholistic" Healing approaches all parts of the individual, not just the physical aspect of a person where manifested illnesses are often most apparent. Although it may very well be the physical component of a person that people more easily recognize when problems arise through its discomfort or PAIN signals; the mental, emotional, and spiritual aspects of ourselves also indicate imbalances and dis-ease . No aspect (mind, body, spirit, or emotions) of a person is overlooked when an holistic treatment is sought. Types of Holistic Healing Therapies and Treatments Aromatherapy, Ayurveda medicine, natural diet, exercise, counseling, herbal remedies, homeopathy, acupuncture, naturopathic medicine, bodywork, energy-based therapies, prayerful intention, and traditional Chinese medicine. Explore the Holistic Therapies Index to learn about these therapies and others." http://healing.about.com/od/faq/f/holistic.htm In your previous posts, you have advocated strongly to question...not to be "mindless." Cybercoma had talked of his truth, his belief being in the scientific field...and his contempt for religious beliefs. All I did was address both your points together. I guess if some people can accept psychology, including some psycho-babbles that come along with it, why would their mind be closed to something like faith? Dark Angel, you urge us to question. Well, I'm sort of questioning....or contemplating...that there could be something more that Christ was telling us. If He came as a man, then why would He be giving demonstrations of god-like feats such as walking on water, or healing the sick? I never did know much of holistic healing, but in that link...there is also a therapy that's called "radical forgiveness." Forgiveness is one of the big message of Christ. Forgiving us as we forgive others. When He said, "I am the Way." Maybe it means MORE THAN JUST the way to gain the entry to heaven. Anyway, what about your chiropractor? Or those massage therapist? Can they not be called your modern-day "healers?" Look ma, no instruments! Just my bare hands! Science and faith seem to be merging. There is nothing conclusive...we cannot just dismiss religious faith as balderash! We'll have to fully understands our own selves, our inner selves, our minds....what the human's FULL potential can be. What's so disturbing about that? At least the attempt at conversion was happening in a hospital...not in the middle of a football field. Aren't you, yourself, attempting to "convert" us? I wouldn't call that a "division." In fact...the priest was attempting at unification.
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Should Wal-Mart Entry be banned.....?
betsy replied to a topic in Federal Politics in the United States
This has been the rule of zoning since people started to live together. Church went here, houses went there, hotel went there, etc. Wal-Mart has wanted for a long time to be in the suburbs on a large swatch of land. Most cities and towns have accommodated that. Some towns though have been less interested in a large box store on their doorstep and have had majority support from the electorate. It should be their choice. Zoning is not banning. Consumers still have the choice and access to it. I like going to walmart....because I enjoy browsing at products and comparing prices. My first stop is always their video game bin for good sales. There's one being built right now only a few blocks away ....and a lot of ladies I chat with are also excited about it as I. -
BQ and Liberals neck-to- neck in Quebec
betsy replied to normanchateau's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Harper does not have to. Diuseppe will. -
James Randi. Mind you, I wasn't talking about those slap-on-the-forehead kind of faith-healing. I'm thinking along the lines of holistic healing...which are being used now, although I don't know how well they do.
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Why do you guys complicate things?
betsy replied to mikedavid00's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Thanks for sharng that...never thought he's that extreme! Can you just imagine how it will be if we have non-Canadians voting? He is the worst case scenario. I'd willingly settle for the Liberals instead of the NDP. -
Why this "softening" now? Were they "encouraged" before by liberal-thinking management from expressing Christian sentiments? Were they pressured before by liberal-leaning top CBC honchos citing political correctness? Do some CBC staff finding the courage now to buck the old system, which seemed to have a rule that says: "play anything BUT...?" Are they finally listening to all the criticisms and complaints from Christian tax-payers, who probably were also complaining to their MPs? Does the Harper government now applying a little "encouragement" of its own? Anyway, I've got to go...going for a walk with the kids...and pick up some "Merry Christmas" cards.
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...it's begining to feel a lot like Christmas! Even on the CBC! They've been mentioning the word "Jesus"...and mentioning the word "God"... and playing some Christian songs!
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Even a Liberal MP was saying on MDuffy Live, the only way to make this thing go away and settled once and for all is to have this motion.
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Hey, maybe something was lost in translation along the way....or maybe those who'd written the bible missed out on something...overlooked another message from Christ. Did it ever occur to you that Jesus was actually showing us an example, thus His famous words, "I am the Way." That when He walked on water, and healed the sick, and mysteriously come back from the dead Himself....He's actually showing us "the way!" Giving a live demo...saying: "Look folks! This is what you can do!" If some can move objects through telekinesis....who knows what else we can do! Faith-healing is already occurring in some places!
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Darwin is under attack! JUNE 1996 NBC PRESS RELEASE: "Controversy exploded in the academic community with the telecast of The Mysterious Origins of Man last February. Professors of science and anthropology from some of the nation's most prestigious colleges and universities voiced strong opinions about the validity of the special, which challenged long-accepted beliefs about man's beginning. The program presents evidence suggesting that man may have made the climb from Stone Age to civilization more than once; that present-day man is just the latest in this cycle; and that Darwin's Theory of Evolution has some serious flaws. "We expected some controversy when we produced this show," says producer Bill Cote, "but were not prepared for the enormous cry of outrage from some members of the scientific community." http://www.mcremo.com/mysterious.htm "The movement’s main positive claim is that there are things in the world, most notably life, that cannot be accounted for by known natural causes and show features that, in any other context, we would attribute to intelligence. Living organisms are too complex to be explained by any natural—or, more precisely, by any mindless—process. Instead, the design inherent in organisms can be accounted for only by invoking a designer, and one who is very, very smart. All of which puts I.D. squarely at odds with Darwin. Darwin’s theory of evolution was meant to show how the fantastically complex features of organisms—eyes, beaks, brains—could arise without the intervention of a designing mind. According to Darwinism, evolution largely reflects the combined action of random mutation and natural selection. A random mutation in an organism, like a random change in any finely tuned machine, is almost always bad. That’s why you don’t, screwdriver in hand, make arbitrary changes to the insides of your television. But, once in a great while, a random mutation in the DNA that makes up an organism’s genes slightly improves the function of some organ and thus the survival of the organism. Advocates of intelligent design point to two developments that in their view undermine Darwinism. The first is the molecular revolution in biology. Beginning in the nineteen-fifties, molecular biologists revealed a staggering and unsuspected degree of complexity within the cells that make up all life. This complexity, I.D.’s defenders argue, lies beyond the abilities of Darwinism to explain. Second, they claim that new mathematical findings cast doubt on the power of natural selection. Selection may play a role in evolution, but it cannot accomplish what biologists suppose it can." http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/050530fa_fact "SEATTLE--In an ironic greeting to the seven-part public television series "Evolution" that begins tonight, 100 scientists have declared that they "are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life." The signers say, "Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged." Discovery Institute, a Seattle-based public policy center, compiled the list of statement signers (attached). Among other things, the long list may help to answer the contention of designated spokespeople for the series "Evolution" that "virtually all reputable scientists in the world" support Darwin's theory. Institute officials charge that officials of WGBH/Clear Blue Sky Productions have used that contention to keep any scientific criticism of Darwinism from being acknowledged or examined in the eight-hour series. "They want people to think that the only criticism of Darwin's theory today is from religious fundamentalists," said Discovery president Bruce Chapman. "They routinely try to stigmatize scientists who question Darwin as 'creationists'." Discovery Institute commissioned the Zogby poll, though the survey itself was designed by the Zogby organization. It also included questions on education and "intelligent design," a theory that some scientific critics of Darwin support. (That theory makes no religious claims, but says that the best natural evidence for life's origins points to design rather than a process of random mutation and natural selection.) Discovery Institute last week also opened a special website (www.reviewevolution.org) to critique the WGBH/Clear Blue Sky series in a scholarly "Viewer's Guide." Discovery officials say that the website analyzes all program segments in the series and has uncovered numerous scientific and historical errors, exaggerations and omissions. Full results of the Zogby poll also are available on the website. "The numbers of scientists who question Darwinism is a minority, but it is growing fast," said Stephen Meyer, a Cambridge-educated philosopher of science who directs the Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture at Discovery Institute. "This is happening in the face of fierce attempts to intimidate and suppress legitimate dissent. Young scientists are threatened with deprivation of tenure. Others have seen a consistent pattern of answering scientific arguments with ad hominem attacks. In particular, the series' attempt to stigmatize all critics--including scientists--as religious 'creationists' is an excellent example of viewpoint discrimination." http://www.reviewevolution.com/press/press...0Scientists.php
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Why do you think someone had to have created the Creator? And why do you assume the Creator is more complicated than we are, just because nature is too complex?
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Some call it "soul", others call it "aura," and some refer to it as "essence"...but this is the first time I heard it referred to as "steam." But again, cybercoma....how can you possibly dismiss its possibility when the human brain still holds a lot of mysteries yet to be discovered? Understanding of the human psyche...it's chemical processes...still unravelling? Drawing a definite conclusion upon an "on-going" study or experiment, especially when technology as it improves every hour offers the possibility of unlocking mysteries, does not make any sense.
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Dion's Clean Air Plan Rips Off a David Suzuki report?
betsy replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
What falls under the category of "open water?" Why, can't mosquitos learn to adapt as well? -
Dion's Clean Air Plan Rips Off a David Suzuki report?
betsy replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
So if there's an epidemic of west nile virus...or malaria...or any other mosquito-borne diseases...killing off humans, would you not use DDT because it is harmful to birds and other animals? -
Is Stephane Dion also a citizen of France
betsy replied to Leafless's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
Public office makes it a big difference. If Canada ever gets into conflict with France....how can the public have full confidence in their PM, if he holds a citizenship of that country as well? -
Is Stephane Dion also a citizen of France
betsy replied to Leafless's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
Aren't you a Conservative supporter? This is a revisited issue that seemed to resonate with you. The Accountability Act is supposed to be back from the Senate in late January. That's about average for a bill. Same Sex marriage gets decided this week. The timing solely rested with the Tories. The RCMP Commissioner was supported by the Tories a few months ago. You think they were wrong? Six months is a long time after an issue when people her are chomping to go to the polls again in spring. How hard is it to introduce a bill or resolution on the issue? Not very. The Bloq had their bill and the Conservatives had their counterbill all in less than a week. So you are a Liberal supporter! Well, what's all the rush then? Your patience should've been honed well to perfection by now...after 13 long years! -
Dion's Clean Air Plan Rips Off a David Suzuki report?
betsy replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
I agree. If we're so concerned of the "harmful" effects of DDT, then keep the kids off the grass for several days! Mosquitos bring a lot of disease. Isn't malaria back again? There was a place somewhere in Canada about a couple of years ago that had a grave mosquito infestation. They sprayed the whole town! So when it comes down to the crunch...you do what is best!
