Another Grace Jones...

The Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation, another evidence is given to indicate the divine inspiration of the Bible, by revealing detailed knowledge of the physical world that was not understood by ‘science’ until many centuries, if not millennia, later. SPRINGS IN THE OCEAN Job 38 16 “Have you entered the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths? Genesis 7 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened. Proverbs 8 28 When He established the clouds above, When He strengthened the fountains of the deep, The Old Testament asserts that there are springs in the ocean. https://www.icr.org/article/180 https://www.icr.org/article/180

You don't have to wait. You can see the tooth fairy anytime you want. Get your kid to do it. If she's anything like that.......yes, she's nice........very nice. So, you're hoping for her. She's your choice. Of course, since she's a minion of Satan........ ...................................you might even be able to say hello to Satan.

Hahaha...........we now have the great-grandchildren of the 60's environmentalists who squawked the sky is falling! Maybe when the sky does finally fall........... ........your grandchildren (or maybe even you), might see Jesus coming on His white horse!

Still on Laban's usage of branches, here's a scientific explanation. Check out page 10, starting on first paragraph. I can't paste it. It has something to do with artificial estrus like Chin-Ball mating device. Apparently it's well-known among breeders and veterinarians that ewes, while in "estrus," tend to rub their vulvas on sticks. https://faculty.washington.edu/snoeg...NES%201997.pdf

Let me remind you that I haven't given this verse as an evidence......however, it intrigued me. Uh-uh. Keep that sarcasm in check. I found an explanation for that. Scientific explanation! https://www.scienceandchristianbelief.org/serve_pdf_free.php?filename=SCB+13-1+Pearson.pdf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance So, what we have in the Bible, is the first written record of....... .............selective breeding! Imagine that. http://www.icr.org/article/counting-sheep-since-jacobs-day/

I have to question if you can understand what you read, James Hacker. If you have comprehension issues, then we've got a big problem. We can't discuss if you have problems understanding what you read. Who said God was trying to teach His people science? Yes. But it so happens that He used metaphors to teach them! In fact I've said that the Bible isn't meant as a scientific book. God uses the physical world as metaphors to illustrate His teachings, (not science teachings!) - however, the metaphors that He used gives us glimpses or facts about the physical world. Like the Hydrological system as an example. I've posted the following: .

How am I going in circles when I'm adding - plying - one evidence after another? You're the one going in circles with your convoluted attempt to deflect. And aside from being confused.....you're in denial. You're confused - as shown by your own post (which is actually my point) - indicating you don't know whether you're coming or going - and you talk about larger truth? Larger truth, indeed. I doubt you'd see it even if the truth as big as a USS carrier hits you squarely on your forehead!

The Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation, another evidence is given to indicate the divine inspiration of the Bible, by revealing detailed knowledge of the physical world that was not understood by ‘science’ until many centuries, if not millennia, later. Hebrews 11 3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. Atoms Practically everything in the physical world - from plant life, stars, animals, rocks, air, and water—is composed of building blocks known as atoms. You can't see atoms with the naked eye. In fact.... http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20151120-how-do-we-know-that-things-are-really-made-of-atoms

The left! Stupidity seems to be second nature. Not only are they enablers of terrorism......but they actually put the country at grave risk. Here's a recent example of blatant stupidity: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-sanctuary-city-1.3990835

How can anyone dictate to a statement of faith? I wonder if the same board would do the same to the Quran? Not that I would approve of it, either. This is about freedom of religion, and expression. When authorities can chip away at our rights and freedom.........we'll end up losing them.

You're confused......as shown by your own post: My point, exactly! How could've the authors of the Bible written about such things...... ...........if not through the Creator Himself? Only the Creator would've known about those details! I'm trying to help you with your confusion. Answer these questions, James.....it's the first step to enlightenment. All these science findings, are in the Bible. You don't agree with science that the universe had a beginning? You don't agree with science that there are creatures that are asexual? You don't agree with science that the universe is stretching? You don't agree with science's claim that in the early times, there were only one ocean and one super continent? You don't agree with Darwinist scientists that life started in the water? You don't agree with science that the human body is comprised of elements found in the dirt (earth's crust)? You don't agree with science on the Second Law of Thermodynamics? You don't agree with science about the hydrological system?

How do you know what's to be taken as a figure of speech, or not? The Bible is full of figures of speech. It could be that they're figures of speech (until proven otherwise).......or science hadn't gotten around to discovering them? As we can see, it's science that seems to be lagging behind the Bible about knowledge of the physical world. Have you noticed that? While science cannot crack into the supernatural, and can only study and analyze the physical...... ........the Bible is stepping on science's realm of the physical! Just occurred to me that the NAS is proven wrong when it says they're separate realms. No such separation exists between the physical and the supernatural, as far as the Bible is concerned......as demonstrated by these given verses! Anyway......thousands of years later....... Thanks to science, at least we now know that those verses that are given as evidence, are not figures of speech. They're actual descriptions of the physical world - in some verses, they're used by God to illustrate or emphasize some teachings to His people.......but in so doing, they give an actual description of the physical world, like the Hydrological Cycle. Because of science, we can now take those verses literally!

Why won't you answer these question? You don't agree with science that the universe had a beginning? You don't agree with science that there are creatures that are asexual? You don't agree with science that the universe is stretching? You don't agree with science's claim that in the early times, there were only one ocean and one super continent? You don't agree with Darwinist scientists that life started in the water? You don't agree with science that the human body is comprised of elements found in the dirt (earth's crust)? You don't agree with science on the Second Law of Thermodynamics? I won't be entertaining anymore senseless posts from you unless you answer these questions!

Irrelevant! Stop deflecting. I gave specific evidences for the argument The Creator has Intimate Knowledge of His creation. Deal with those. Furthermore, I already answered that there is no contradiction with that Judas narrative. Both happened to Judas! He hanged himself, and later on his decomposing body fell headlong and split open. http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=6&article=1761 And guess what, science supports the "exploding tummy." http://www.nbcnews.com/id/4096586/ns/us_news-environment/t/thar-she-blows-dead-whale-explodes/#.WUr39-mQzIU You should read.

I think you're confused. Of course, the ancient authors had no idea what they were writing about! That's my point! How do you explain this? HOW DID THESE ANCIENT AUTHORS HAPPEN TO WRITE DETAILS THAT WERE LATER REAFFIRMED BY SCIENCE - THOUSANDS OF YEARS AFTER THEY WERE WRITTEN? That supports my argument that the Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation..... ....and it supports my claim that the Creator is the God of the Bible! For these authors to come up with details that are reaffirmed by science (thousands of years after they were written), indicate the divine inspiration of the Bible! Only the Creator would know about those detailed knowledge of the physical world Even you admit, and agree with me that those authors had no idea what they were talking about! How many are there that these authors had gotten right? Count them! And yes, look at the hydrological cycle as another example! READ!

A Christian school in Alberta fights for freedom of religion. The board wants the school to stop teaching certain passages from the Scriptures. “We’re talking about freedom of religion, but we’re (also) talking about freedom of expression,” she said. Skori sent an email earlier this year asking Wargel to remove a bible verse on immorality from the school’s statement of faith. She also asked that they remove the word “quality” from the phrase “CCA offers quality educational programming.” CCA agreed to remove “quality” and the passage from 1 Corinthians, which states: “Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” http://nationalpost.com/news/religion/alberta-christian-school-fights-board-request-to-remove-offensive-scripture/wcm/d8d5b924-9858-4b67-bb03-4c296442bcde However, the CCA already capitulated, and edited the Word of God..........if this report is true. You can't pick and choose. If you agree to remove any word from the Scriptures.....then, what are you fighting for?

The Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation, another evidence is given to indicate the divine inspiration of the Bible, by revealing detailed knowledge of the physical world that was not understood by ‘science’ until many centuries, if not millennia, later. The Hydrological Cycle https://www.ec.gc.ca/eau-water/defau...n&n=23CEC266-1 The Bible and the hydrologic cycle - creation.com

With just those few evidences being given so far (to show that the Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation)..........all I've read are all sorts of deflections...............mangled and senseless responses to the issue. Wait till you see more evidence!

It's time for another recap, just so to refresh our memory on the evidences that have been given. The following are some evidences for the argument that the Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation. Only the Creator would know of these things that were verbally passed through generations and finally written in the Bible - thousands of years before science discovered and reaffirms them. More will be added. All from the Book of Genesis 1 and 2: *In the beginning (consistent with science's discovery that the universe had a beginning) *All waters gather to one place, and land appear (consistent with science's claim that in the early times there was only one super ocean and only one super continent - Pangaea and Panthalassa) *The waters bringing forth creatures that has life (compatible with evolutionist claim that life started in the water). *"After their kind" in relation to reproduction - without any mention of genders, except to humans - male and female - (consistent with science discovery that some species don't require a mate in order to reproduce. Some creatures are asexual) *God formed man from dust (consistent with science finding that the human body is made up of elements that comes from dirt/dust). *God's curse towards the snake that it would from henceforth crawl on its belly and eat dust (compatible with science's discovery that snakes used to have limbs or legs) *Man's dominion of animals (consistent with reality - as can be observed, even today) ------------------------ *Stretches the Heavens (consistent with science discovery that the universe is stretching). Take note that most of the verses uses the present tense "stretches." How appropriate! The universe is still stretching. *Psalm 102:25-26, Isaiah 51:6, Hebrews 1:10-11 indicate the universe is wearing out (consistent with the Second Law of Thermodynamics)

The Bible isn't meant to be a scientific book.......it's not meant to be giving scientific proof or evidence! They don't belong in the same realm, and science is quite limited in its capacity to know about the supernatural. HOWEVER...... ........it just so happens that some statements in the Bible are consistent with science findings. Just like the National Academy of Sciences had clearly stated: https://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/site/faq.html An argument is given, along with some evidences to support the said argument. What we're doing here is indulging in some philosophical reflections. No, you step back, and use your reason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason There are so many figures of speech in the Bible......however, the verses that are given as evidence to support the argument that the Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation, we can now take literally, thanks to science. UNLESS, you have a dispute with science! Let's be clear about it. Please answer these questions. You don't agree with science that the universe had a beginning? You don't agree with science that there are creatures that are asexual? You don't agree with science that the universe is stretching? You don't agree with science's claim that in the early times, there were only one ocean and one super continent? You don't agree with Darwinist scientists that life started in the water? You don't agree with science that the human body is comprised of elements found in the dirt (earth's crust)? You don't agree with science on the Second Law of Thermodynamics?

See? See what I mean? That went sailing over your head, If you can't grasp something as simple as that analogy with being "JUST," what more with philosophical discussion where-in we heavily rely on reason? In that analogy, you would be the criminal, and God would be the Law and the Judge! You want a victim? That will be you! You'd be what is called......... .......... "the victim of your own stupidity."

What point? You've never made any point at all, so far. Furthermore, whatever you think it is you've made.....is an epic fail! You were attempting to give a pathetic "point" on the assumption that God is real, remember? That's why you brought up God being loving and just, and torture of eternal punishment! First of all, you've yet to prove that the premise is false - and my friend, it's an epic fail so far trying to prove that! Simply saying, "nay, it's not true," isn't a rebuttal! You've got to give something credible and COHERENT, to make a reasonable rebuttal! Especially so when you're in Philosophy section! Second, just because everyone is skirting around the argument (and the evidences) that the Creator has intimate knowledge of His creation, it doesn't mean that the argument (and the evidences) does not exist. You can't just sweep this argument under the rug and pretend it's not there, and continue on like as if nothing very revealing (and challenging), was given at all!