Drea

Rue this is very surpising coming from you! Is "looks" all that counts in America? In that case why not just vote for Britney

Religious people think we are not *monkeys* Some people would let insults just roll off their backs -- does this fact make it "okay" to taunt those who take insults to heart? OF course not. Posters keep touting "But Christians would not be offended by *such and such*!" How 'bout if I go into yer church this Sunday and start strippin' and rubbin' my little naked bod all over the guy on the crucifix? Would any Christians be offended? The hypocritcal men would looove it -- the women, not so much This isn't about pitting Islam against Christianity, it's about people being ignorant sob's.

Hear Hear! 5 years mandatory for anyone caught with an illegal gun in their possession. Whether or not it was used in a crime. If it were used in a crime, that jail time is to be added to the 5 years, imv.

What about that Kramer dude? Wasn't he just trying to be "funny"? And that other dude, said something about Nappy something or other? I don't believe in squelching free speech at all. I believe people should have the "right" to say whatever they want (unless they tell people to kill or maim or otherwise harm a person). Just because I have the "right" to call those drunken idiots on the post office bench drunken idiots doesn't mean I am going to. What would it accomplish? Nothing. What does eating this damn cookie accomplish? Dialogue? Getting moderates "onside"? Moderates abandoning Islam? WHAT exactly besides the "fun" of seeing these people froth at the mouth from anger. SO you can get someone that angry -- does that make you proud of yourself? I just drove my 14yo son to cadets and asked him on the way -- "Do you think it's okay to tease and taunt someone until they get really mad?" "No, that would be mean." he said.

*glub glub* (me making fish-sucking sounds)

I didn't say it was a "right". But not doing it is the "right" thing to do.

Well maybe a bit satire, but there's some truths in there! Tit for tat -- both the left and the right have extremists. The extremists on the right seem louder because the left still maintains a level of decorum (for the most part). Take Moxie's reaction to Kuzad's post in "Mohammed/Cookie" thread. She totally loses it, no decorum at all... of course I lost it once too... so maybe Moxie just had a bad day. *cept I never called anyone an asshole... just sayin' Good thing for us that most people are in the middle.

It's called "common decency". Something which is sadly lacking. You have every right to tease that old bum on Main Street, but doesn't that little thing called "common decency" stop you from doing so? Sure some young people could taunt him and make him really mad... then run away laughing. Childish behaviour no matter who it is directed at. Adults who condone or do this type of thing are bullies. They were bullies as children and they are raising the next generation of bullies. So when your child's teacher calls and tells you that little Billy is pushing others around, remember where he got it from. (you're kids are watching how you treat others and learning!).

Here's the conservative thou... wait, no there is no actual "thought process" involved... Just follow the sheep in front of you... rightwingers believe: - a woman's only value is as a breeding machine - women lose their "value" once they are no longer virgins unless they become mothers then they have limited value as such - a man's only value is as a wallet - children should be seen and not heard - getting drunk is fun and harmless but smoking pot will lead people to become raving lunatics - black and brown people are "uppity" if they are disagreeable - black and brown people are inherently terrorists and should never be trusted - an ancient book is valuable as the basis of current morality and law - atheists are inherently immoral - there is only one "correct" religion -- everyone else gets to burn in a pit - evil actually exists -- not just crazy/mean/nasty people, but e-v-i-l straight from the devil's lair - animals don't feel pain - guns are toys to be played with - there are only two ways to see everything -- black OR white, us OR them... - there is no such thing as a "middle" only left and right - Hitler was a socialist - Chavez is the devil incarnate - there can be a devil incarnate - child support is the same as alimony - women should be virgins at marriage, but men should not - if gays are allowed to marry, people will begin screwing their pets - women should not vote - being a "liberal thinker" is a bad thing - all people who consider themselves liberal are "hippies" - "commies" are still a threat - terrorists are lying in wait in the mall - men don't know how to shop - women can't stop shopping - women always take all of a man's money - women don't earn - boys are being "left out" because they can no longer settle their childhood disputes with their fists - teachers are "indoctrinating" children into the "gay" (or worse yet!) the "liberal" mindset - all women want babies - no women want the stress of being a CEO anyone care to refute these points? No? Hard to refute the truth innit?

But they were wanting to eat the cookie in front of regular (non crazy) Muslims. This thread is not a pissing contest of whose religion is worse... it is about people deliberately inciting others to violence. Then pointing and laughing and saying "see, told you they were fanatics!". Grow the frig up already. ALL religion should be erradicated from this beautiful planet in my opinion. ALL of them. How many times do I need to repeat this.. Jeeezus Keeryst. People.. there is no such thing as a sky daddy. You are on your own, grow up and start acting like adults (only childish bullies would think inciting others to be "fun".

The difference is... the crazy woman did not act crazy on purpose, to incite the Christian community -- she was simply being herself.

#1 -- you're not an "indian" unless you are from the country "India". #2 -- what is a "crownland community"? #3 -- why not take your "strength" and go to the Yellow somethingorother reserve and kill that guy that froze those baby girls. Then make sure that not one single other native person ever has a drink of alcohol again. THEN and only then, can you call yourself "strong". *sick and tired of the "you're bashing natives!" threads.* Get a job. Buy a house. Go to school. Whatever -- but DON'T DRINK BOOZE and all of you would be just fine. It is NOT everyone else's FAULT that you cannot pull yourselves up out of the gutter. I paid $11,000 in taxes in 2007. How much did you pay? How much did you TAKE? take take take! whine whine whine! *sigh*

These people who would be so insensitive are the very same people that picked on the retarded/fat/ugly/loner/ethnic kid in school. God I hated bullies -- I beat the crap out of one of those bullies in grade 6. What a great day that was! She was picking on the smallest native girl in school and I came to her defense. (was that you Moxie?) They are a nasty bunch and I wish them all ill will.

I agree with Kuzad. Deliberately inciting an already volitile populace is extremely sickening. But I really gotta ask... Moxie, why would you do it? Is it FUN for you to watch people become agitated? Is it FUN for you to laugh and point your finger at them? Do you get a "kick" out of hurting other people? Not all Muslims are suicide bombers, uh duuuuh..but you don't care, your pickin on the new "nigger" and you don't give a shit do you? *shaking head in disbelief icon* People. Like. You. Make. Me. Sick. Let me ask... would you personally do this (eat that cookie) in front of a Muslim at say, Tim Hortons? Pffffft. I doubt you would have the "moxie". Now run along and get your prescription, because it's obvious that you've run out of your medication.

so what about those of us who have to drive for a living? What do we do? Mothball our "tin boxes" and walk around? I have clients that are tens of kilometres apart... shall I start walking now to get to my appointment for Tuesday? Not only that but not all people are apartment dwellers, nor do they want to be.

CA...yah gotta learn how to use the quote feature! It drives me crazy trying to determine what part of the post is your response and what part is the quote...

I'd like to see a study done on rural kids vs city kids -- their behaviour. As a kid I was outside most of the time and we didn't come in until Mom forced us to. Of course I was raised rurally. I am raising my son in the city and he simply does not get enough "outside" imo. But what can you do? Tell him to go ride his bike up and down the driveway? Walk around the block? How boring is that? As kids we had tree forts and tarzan swings and "secret gardens". I wish I could have raised my son the way I was raised. Lots of sunshine, lots of outdoor activity, lots of imagination. All three things are sadly lacking for city kids and I don't have 2 million dollars to buy a little patch of "outside". Waaahhh

Yah ok But Tom Cruise's insanity is directly related to Scientology right? But this crazy lady just CAN'T be a CHRISTIAN... cause "real" Christians would NEVER act that way! So those Muslim suicide bombers are not really "true" Muslims -- they are just nuts right? Pfffft. She is a CRAZY CHRISTIAN. No doubt about it. Her belief in her religion made her act this way. If she had never heard of Jesus she would not be scaring the shit out of her family. Put her in the nuthouse where she can "convert" all the crazies to the "correct religion" She acted the way she did BECAUSE she IS a Christian. Because she has been taught to be afraid, taught that there is a "devil" lurking... We have a very Christian woman where I work, she is very sweet and kind. Sometimes we discuss life and philosophy... the other day I told her I am pretty much an atheist and her eyes almost popped out of her head. Poor woman has been told that atheists aren't just non-believers, they are the DEVIL! Frigging ridiculous.

eyeball, If the gas station knows you and you live in a small town you can still pump then pay... I do at the corner store, the owner always says "go ahead", cause he knows me. He doesn't have those fancy pay pumps. Borg, there are NO full serve stations where I live. There was one but they shut down and I used to go there all the time as I hate pumping my own gas when I'm all dressed for work. To the person who says "take the bus"... darn big city dweller! Most centres do not have timely bus service. And in my job I drive all day -- I'd look pretty funny in my suit with my briefcase on a bicycle! LOL

I wanted to join the topic margrace. But the post about the cigarette smoking... IF this were the case then their would have been much more behaviour issues in previous generations as many more people smoked. Everything gets blamed on the smoker. Well there are very few of us left so the blame should lie elsewhere. Parenting styles perhaps? Of course little Johnhy is going to act up for his teachers as he has never had a day of punishment for bad behaviour at home in his life. Parents simply don't know how to be parents and they blame everything around them instead of looking at how they are raising their kids. We are raising a generation that will never grow up. They simply aren't being taught to take responsiblity for themselves. ..wait... the generation that is currently having babies is the generation that we didn't allow to grow up. I feel sorry for them. Responsibility of self needs to be taught from babyhood. It starts with "If you touch grandma's plants you are getting punished", not just "removed" from the vicinty of the plants. Children have not been taught how to control themselves -- their well-meaning parents think they are doing the right thing by removing the child from the temptation rather than teaching them to ignore the temptation. and that's my 2 cents.

Fascism:exalts nation and often race above the individual ...doesn't sound like a "left wing" or "socialist" ideal. stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader wasn't it GW who said that the best type of goverment is a dictatorship, as long as he's the dictator? *smirk* , severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition the "left" believe that the rights of the individual (human rights) outweigh the rights of the majority, so once again, this does not fit the "leftwing" ideology. 2: a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control same as above. The right is the "side" that advocates for more "control" over individual private human decisions. Whether it be abortion or ingesting smoke from a plant, the right seeks to intervene, no matter that the "state" is unaffected by such personal private human decisions. The left advocates for control of human behaviour that directly affects other humans such as smoking in public, not leaving babies in cars and the like.

ok blackdog, yah got me... hippies was a bad example (I was more of an Alex Keaton kinda person that a Mallory kinda person -- a preppy for those who don't know). The younger generation is always seen as less conformist than the older generation. Tis the nature of human beings. The current sociological trend in society is very divisive. The right calls the left fascists, the left calls the right fascists. A fascist is: dictionary

What did the hippies (liberal buggers eh?) do for us? They certainly were not "conformists". Ha ha ha right back atcha... Bush has learned very much from Hitler. Hitler was a fascist, therefore Bush is a fascist. Just look at America today: "paperz pleeze". The rightwing has slid right down the rabbit hole into fascism.

The new fascists are fearmongering conservatives. And yes, the left is very progressive in leaving behind antiquated ideas (conformity, tattling on suspicious neighbours, suspension of rights, etc) that, through much misery (Hitler), we have learned do not work.

See!!! Black OR white Male OR female With us OR against us ...it's only conservatives who cannot see a MIX of people.. male AND female. ppfffft.