sharkman

Not unless you identify what that problem is. Too bad for you. All of your gasoline-consuming friends and neighbors out-number you. ???? How is "a monopoly, or maybe even a cartel" a reason to prevent somebody from entering the market? 1: I identified the problem. Our demand has increased while our supply has not. That is obviously not a problem for you, but we can't suspend the laws of economics and not suffer consequences. 2: No, most gasoline consumers are annoyed every time they fill up. Perhaps some clap their hands in glee, but logic dictates that paying more for something doesn't make people happy. 3: Do you not no how monopolies and cartels work?

Here's something to add to the pot. Excerpt: They say things like this: 'How'd you like it if anyone did the same to you?' -- 'That's my seat, I was there first' -- 'Leave him alone, he isn't doing you any harm' -- 'Why should you shove in first?' -- 'Give me a bit of your orange, I gave you a bit of mine' -- 'Come on, you promised.' People say things like that every day, educated people as well as uneducated, and children as well as grown-ups. Now what interests me about all these remarks is that the man who makes them is not merely saying that the other man's behaviour does not happen to please him. He is appealing to some kind of standard of behaviour which he expects the other man to know about. And the other man very seldom replies: 'To hell with your standard.' Nearly always he tries to make out that what he has been doing does not really go against the standard, or that if it does there is some special excuse. He pretends there is some special reason in this particular case why the person who took the seat first should not keep it, or that things were quite different when he was given the bit of orange, or that something has turned up which lets him off keeping his promise. It looks, in fact, very much as if both parties had in mind some kind of Law or Rule of fair play or decent behaviour or morality or whatever you like to call it, about which they really agreed. And they have. If they had not, they might, of course, fight like animals, but they could not quarrel in the human sense of the word. Quarrelling means trying to show that the other man is in the wrong. End of excerpt Religious principles are based on natural law.

You don't see a problem with no new capacity in 20 years? Remember when there was a fire at a Ontario refinery plus the train strike? I think about 5 million people would beg to differ with you. I do have a problem with any corporation making sudden windfall profits when they never used to. The reason no one else sets up shop is because it's a monopoly, or maybe even a cartel.

In B.C., gas prices in little towns have traditionally been cheaper than Vancouver because of the GVRD tax of 10 cents charged on every litre sold in Van. I live about an hour outside of Vancouver, and in the last year our prices have at times been higher than the Great Vancouver Regional District. This means Gas corporations have been charging us at least 10 cents/ltr more than Vancouverites, and we have very little in the way of extra transportation costs. There is absolutely no rhyme or reason to it. The prices around here have been 1.17/ltr. And others have said they pay around a buck in TO? That's crap. We live much closer to the buckle of the oil belt, Alberta! Seriously, we are being ripped of by the gas corporations and for some to say,"so what, buy a smaller car" is funny since these pro green people hate the corporations, except now when they are doing your bidding. meanwhile the Corps are reaping multi billion dollar profits every quarter. What we really need in Canada is new capacity for gas production, there hasn't been any in close to 20 years. How much has the demand grown in 20 years? Cars have become more efficent than the gas guzzlers of the 80s, but Canada's population has grown much and capacity needs to grow as well. The problem is the red tape and restrictions now in place make it hugely expensive and impossible to construct new plants, and we have the do gooder environmentalists in past governments to thank for this. I can't wait to see their outrage when they build new nuclear power plants in Ontario.

Just in case you cant' find this other thread, here it is.

Perhaps you should read up on India. They are a very religious country, much more than canada. Their laws and culture are based on their religion. Your disconnect in this matter is very revealing. Edit: here's a start from Wikipedia : Although 80.5% of Indians report themselves as Hindus, India's Muslim population is the world's second largest; they constitute 13.4% of the population. Other religious groups include Christians (2.3%), Sikhs (1.9%), Buddhists (0.8%), Jains (0.4%), Jews, Zoroastrians, Bahá'ís and others.[ But the Obscenity laws that Gere broke in India are not culture based, but religion based Drea. Once again, you are hypocritical to respect India's religious laws in this thread, but state how all religions are nonsense in another. Get back to me when you can explain this.

actually, it's about 1.7% of the population in Canada, according to Stats Canada. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to see the numbers.

Sorry, I got impatient and googled it. I neva woulda guessed.

Well you seem to be zeroing in on gays for some reason. Christianity teaches that every single person is going to hell without accepting God's way of escape, because of what Lucifer did way back when, not just gays. How's that for terrible? Perhaps it's just easier to chuck it all in and say there is no God. But children know so little and if their parents don't love them enough to instruct them, who will? I had a friend who was gay. He was a member of my church and would sing for the congregation occasionally. He once told me about his gay problem and how he had struggled with it his whole life. It began for him when he was a child. He was a foster kid and would be moved around from home to home. In one home, the mother started doing sexual things to him repeatedly, and he says this is what turned him away from straight relationships with women. This was well before he became a Christian. He was a very strong Christian in our church, and raised a family of 3 girls. A man to respect. He lived with this issue and decided to believe his heart that it was wrong. He lived his whole life this way, and when I knew him, he was an older man. A doctor had recently prescribed meds that negated the gay feelings. I know sounds weird, but it's what happened to him. Is there right and wrong? You seem to believe so, that it's wrong to teach children that gayness is wrong. But what if gayness IS wrong? What if there IS a God, and he's decided to let us live our lives having the choice to choose Him or not? What if He doesn't force us to do anything, because then we would have a slave relationship with Him, and He didn't want to create slaves? And the result is the world as you see it, with all the pain and hurt that inevitably comes with mankind's failings - greed, fear, lust, envy hatred and what those things reap - murder, war, slavery, rape and the like. I'm not going to justify my belief in God, and you are free to choose what you will of course. I suppose I've rambled, and this will appear to be quite a bunch of religious gobbleygook. But Christians who have a relationship with God that influences their lives do not hate Gays nor anyone.

Don't put words in my mouth. Who do you think my "chosen God" is? As I have said repeatedly, I believe in God. I do not believe in anyone's particular God. I don't know what God is, never having had the pleasure of meeting him. It takes faith to believe in God. It takes faith to believe there is no God. This simple truth is lost on atheists.

Correct you are about the kissing in public, and the point of this thread is to point out how in Canada, Christianity does not burn effigys over kissing, or making out, or gay parades, or gay marriage, or abortions, or anything. So to claim Christianity is on par with other religions' actions, such as in India, is nonsense.

Show me where Christianity treat gays judgementally. There might be wackos who don't understand that God loves gays too, but the idea is Gays are sinners and are in the same boat as all sinners, not below them. Christianity does not wish eternal suffering on them. To state that is what's absurd. I know you have a chip on your shoulder against religion, but your hatred of it really is harmful to your perspective. We DO live in a nation where you can choose no religion. You have made your choice, don't force it on the rest of us please.

So who said it, am I right am I right?

What I want or need is not the issue here. You are defending India's religious laws in one thread while claiming you despise all religion in another. There is no integrity in these two positions, and yet you continue to blather on in the hopes that it won't be noticed. Edit: I am refering to the, "This would never happen in Canada" Thread, also in the Rest Of The World section.

Perhaps you should read up on India. They are a very religious country, much more than canada. Their laws and culture are based on their religion. Your disconnect in this matter is very revealing. Edit: here's a start from Wikipedia : Although 80.5% of Indians report themselves as Hindus, India's Muslim population is the world's second largest; they constitute 13.4% of the population. Other religious groups include Christians (2.3%), Sikhs (1.9%), Buddhists (0.8%), Jains (0.4%), Jews, Zoroastrians, Bahá'ís and others.[

Yes, actually, it is. Less and less people believe in an unknowable entity/creator. And this is a very good thing. The human race IS slowly growing up -- and the more we debate the subject of religion, the more common sense will prevail. Of course I have to "take the world as it is" -- can't really go anywhere else LOL -- my ultimate wish (as wishes go) is that we stop killing one another whether for oil or god or whatever. Do you realize you are a hypocrite? You are arguing to respect India's religious laws in another thread and at the same time saying how all religion is nonsense in this thread. Good grief.

Okay, so nice to see you respect another country's religion in this thread while stating All religions are nonsense and just an attempt to control people in another thread. Make up your friggin mind, Drea.

As I told someone else, I'm afraid you're going to have to take the world as is. It ain't changing for you. Learning to realize that is part of growing up.

Is there a secret Democrat army being trained somewhere for a coup? The best made-to-order intelligence he could commission at the time, you mean. The stolen election of 2000 in particular should enrage anyone who cares about democracy in America. Good grief! The Dems are attempting to impeach Cheney. Although they might have better luck with the army idea. Your next statement exposes a poorly thought out strategy by liberals and the Dems they love: If the intell was tailor made, they should get their money back. Obviously it wasn't, or otherwise it would have been far more damning to Saddam. Ah, you must be one of the bitter libs I was refering to. I suppose the Supreme Court, obviously liberal since they have repeatedly refused to stop legal abortions, is in on your conspiracy to have stolen the election, and given it to Dubya? It's these breaks with reality that made it easy to beat the liberals again in 2004. Look out 2008!

You have a point, but I think that fielding candidates like this hurts the Liberals, and you know if they found a Tory candidate who once said he feels that gay marriage is wrong, they'd shout it from the rooftops and get all the mileage out of it they could.

The poll at the top shows a misread of the situation. The Tories are doing better in Quebec than they have in a very long time. More money is not what's needed.

No, GREED and FEAR is responsible for the majority of strife on earth. Just because you obviously don't understand it, it doesn't mean they are all stupid. That's comparable to racists calling all blacks stupid, and just as short sighted.

What we will have to brace ourselves for is the coming insanity of the Democrats, who will stop at nothing to grab the reins of power. Bush acted with the best intelligence they had at the time, and several other main countries' intell agreed with the U.S. These are simple facts that keep getting ignored by the Bush Derangement crowd. But the Dems, who were quite bitter about the impeachment hearings of Clinton, want revenge on the Republicans. Add to that the 2000 election, and then the 2004 election, and you have some enraged liberals out there who will do anything to take down Bush. Hell hath no fury like a sore loser. Edit: I hope you don't read crap from Goering and Hitler, they are lunatics.

It has nothing to do with gay rights here in Canada, I am simply comparing what one country's religion finds acceptible behaviour vs Canada. Hint: here we do not find anything wrong with PDAs, nor do we burn effigys over anything.

NY came at them with everything and all cylinders humming and still lost. I feel like a new man, however, and it's because the Canucks just showed the Ducks there's more than one one way to skin a, uh, duck! Maybe they can beat Anaheim after all. The reffing, however, is a big mystery wrapped inside an enigma. At least 2 of the Canuck penalties were complete dives that the refs bought. Salonne even kicked his legs in the air on the one and the talking heads at intermission all agreed it was an obvious dive. Hopefully the refs improve as the series goes along. Late in the NYR game, the Rangers were completely caught with too many men when the 6th guy who had just jumped over the boards touched the puck. No call. Then with seconds to go, NY enters the Sabre zone offside and the refs let it go. Bizzare. Really makes you wonder if the losing teams are supposed to get some kind of handicap now or something.