Leafless

This is a terrific point. What are those values? And you call yourself a Canadian! I've already listed and posted important the most important Canadian values previously on this board. If you are a real Canadian you should already know what Canadian values are.

Doesn't say much for being a Canadian then, does it? No one really cares what the derogatory general consensus was in your politically correct geography class was. Well, the fact is Canada does have a history and does have values and now does have a government intent on resurrecting what Canadianism is all about after years of Liberal abuse and misdirection.

No, not with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms being part of our constitution with the federal government able to control existing legislation and able to modify or expand or interpret rights and freedoms whenever it chooses. This actually puts the federal government in the drivers seat and able to manipulate and override democratic concerns. The federal government is a democratically elected political body and not chosen by a specific group. Therefore it has a democratic related responsibility to drive the country in a democratic related manner. It has created a federal 'bias' which is not compatible with normal democratic concerns. This in turn has corrupted our constitution.

Fish, oil or whatever is not the point. It's about sovereignty. Canada has not proven it has undisputed supremacy concerning travel through that passage.

Then what are you opposed to when you say you are unCanadian? I would agree there isn't one, other than a person with citizenship papers. That, therefore, includes Arar. Oh, you mean the Charter. I didn't know they renamed it, nor did I know it was by definition "correct." Un-Canadian means like I said previously " I'am not in general agreement with the absence concerning of what Canadian is suppose to mean." This means rather than the federal government leading the country projecting a strong sense of national values and loyalties common to everyone , they have resorted to allow Canadians choose that definition for whatever they think, concerning the political correct Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Charter of rights and Freedoms stems mostly from the previous federal human rights code with the addition of other controversial imposed rights. Under the old version of federal human rights, the federal government protected human rights and not (Liberally) DICTATED them as LAW , as with the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which is the new politically correct version. The federal government has a primary obligation to protect the majority.

I generally agree. In Venezuela the headlines read: "Chávez denounces US" http://www.thedailyjournalonline.com/

There is a general consensus generally accepted among the intelligent concerning Mr. Arar. If Canada employed the proper immigration laws restricting citizenship to Canada only, there would be no Mr. Arar controversy, no $1M dollar tax payer funded inquiry, no in camera meetings, no potential sue job, NO NOTHING. The fact is if Mr. Arar was Canadian only, U.S. border security would have no place other than CANADA to deport him. Mr. Arar's desire to retain his Syrian citizenship contributes greatly to the ROOT of the problem, HIS problem in many respects.

I'm not sure what you mean by "absence." Do you just mean to say you disagree with the overall consensus among Canadians of what it means to be "Canadian?" And I don't understand "liberties granted by political correctness" at all. "Political correctness," whatever the hell that means, doesn't have any authority by anyone's definition. My definition of political correctness is that it is just a vague concept drummed up by people whose feelings were hurt when someone called them racist or bigoted. I'd truly be fascinated to find out yours. I know of no definition to officially describe a Canadian. Nor do I know of a general consensus agreed by all Canadians concerning the definition of a Canadian. Do you know what the universal agreed upon definition is to describe a Canadian? Political correctness grants rights including: Identity politics, including gay rights, feminism, multiculturalism and the disability rights movement. In this country it is basically an imposed Liberal language dictating rights.

Of course anti-Canadian is a word. "Anti" is an adjective that can precede pretty much any noun. It just means "in opposition to." "Un-Canadian", on the other hand, means "not Canadian", like German or Chinese, for example. Therefore, you possess an anti-Canadian ideology in that you are opposed to what you perceive to be a prevalent Canadian "politically correct" ideology. I don't agree with its prevalence--I think Canada has a healthy convergence of many different viewpoints. But you have a certain vision of what Canada is, you are opposed to that vision, so you are therefore anti-Canadian. Not to mention, I find it very contrary to the Canadian ideal of freedom (and therefore truly "anti-Canadian") that you would say that a person should not travel because of their ethnic heritage. If a word is not in a dictionary then technically it is an undefined word and you must utilize proper methods to define it properly. The word 'anti' standing alone is a preposition and a noun. Canada is a proper noun. The word 'anti-' with a dash is only a prefix that is used to FORM nouns and adjectives. Examples are anticlimax, antisectionism, antipope all formed into nouns proceeded by 'anti'. The definiton of 'anti' is what you defined as being 'opposed to' something that Iam not. The word 'un-' can be added to adjectives and particles, verbs and NOUNS. What I'am is un-Canadian meaning 'not in general agreement with the absence concerning the definition of what 'Canadian' is suppose to mean. And I use the same liberties granted by political correctness to support my 'bias' against those Canadians who do not support Canadian national values and loyalties.

For U.S. border authorities at time of high terrorist activity to be suspicious of someone who is also a Syrian citizen. Yes, I would say this would be a reasonable assessment relating to security of the country. Anti-Canadian, I believe there is no such word. You must mean un-Canadian. If I possess un-Canadian ideologies, it is fully owed to political correctness in this country, which allows OTHERS to be labelled Canadian while not possessing national Canadian values and loyalties. Saying this forms the basis for my screen name 'Leafless', as surely I must be entitled to the same entitlements as dictated by Canadian political correctness.

Orange!! Prove it, asshole!!

Are you naive or what. Anyone who hangs around with any dangerous suspect who is under surveillance could or might be implicated as part of the suspects group. The fact remains Arar was in the U.S. at the time of his detainment an extremely dangerous place for a Syrian citizen/Canadian citizen to be in a time of terrorist activity. He is the author of his own misfortune. It really amazes me concerning the fact some members on this site hold the view that authorities are suppose have 100% accurate information on the hundreds or thousands of possible suspects being monitored regarding terrorist activity at a time of high alert.

The red seal title gives you access to work in any province in Canada with no other additional examinations or test pertaining to electricians qualifications. However it does not give you the right to override, in the case of Quebec, legislation protecting Quebec electricians. Check this link where it allows a contractor to bring in his own Ontario electricians for work that is considered SPECIALIZED only. http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/about/...pecialized.html

Dual citizenship holder Syrian/Canadian has been cleared of any wrong doing. This will possibly make Mr. Arar a rich man at the expense of the country of Canada, the Canadian tax payer, a group Mr. Arar cannot attach any sentiment or loyalty to after returning to the safety of Canadian soil. A fact he should be very thankful for. His perusal of some type revenge for his self induced ordeal (travelling out of Canada at a time of high terrorist activity) and also being a citizen of Syria is plain dumb. There could be some kind of connection (financial) concerning (from what I understand) as an unemployed consultant. IMO the federal government even considering giving this man some type of payoff concerning his self induced ordeal reflects badly, concerning the democratic and free country Canada is and could be considered a slap in the face to all Canadians. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...56d&k=70727

What do barbaric Muslims have to with sensitivities? They still do, to-day, severe heads and promote that barbaric ideology. "A lot of Muslims and Arabs view the Crusades as a bloody episode in our history," he told CNN. "They see those campaigns as Christendom launching a brutal holy war against Islam." "Muslim or Arab prisoners could take umbrage if staff wore a red cross badge. It's also got associations with the far-right. Prison officers should be seen to be neutral." Ha-HA-Ha-Ha-Ha!

I suspect the refusal relating to Quebec credit cards has something to do with 'Quebec's Personal Information Protection Act'. Your beef with your electrician's license has been going on for years with electricians and other trades in Ottawa who try to get work in Quebec. The problem is that you need so many hours of actual work experience in Quebec, but how can you obtain that when there is all kinds of red tape preventing you from doing just that. Don't feel bad as they are even hitting taxi's from Ontario with phony Quebec provincial safety checks in order to harass, to keep them on the Ontario side and keep all the work for Quebec taxi's. But when it comes to Quebeckers working in Ottawa or other parts of Ontario it's a different story. We have thousands of Quebeckers pouring in to Ottawa, Ontario eveyday. They fill private sector jobs, federal jobs, construction jobs and nobody blinks an eyebrow. When there is a complaint usually from peeved off Ontario construction workers, we get the same old story that negotiations between Ontario and Quebec provincial governments are in progress but never results in anything that even resembles the word fair.

What about Canadian Charter protection?

Canadian multiculturalism is not primarily symbolic. It's the law.

August1991 Could your reckoning be related to this link: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/via/ It refers to handling 80% of the traffic. Here is the Windsor-Quebec City corridor: http://www.atlantica.org/atlanticastory.asp?cmPageID=94 And it's more like 60/40. Concerning your disbelief in major Canadian news publications, yes I do belief in most part stories covering political events. Why, do you believe politicians? Anyways August the topic does not concern the Windsor/Quebec corridor but the demands placed on the Harper government by power hungry glutton Quebec. If you read the article it reads in part: "Officials in Quebec's environment ministry took advantage of the thaw in relations, sending Ottawa a long list of programs it wanted financed. " How irresponsible can a province be by pressuring a new government concerning these demands. Quebec's pressure tactics led to a dysfunctional Liberal government and now it appears the Conservatives will be led down the same path. If you do not have anything substantial to add concerning this situation fine but if you do, please address the concerns related to the topic. BTW- I decide what previous post I use to support my argument and not you. If you feel you are in the position to chastise please verify that with the moderator so all members will be aware of your exclusive powers concerning decissions that are none of your buisness.

Lets hope so. Why? Is this a democratic initiative? No. It's a transportation inititive. Trains are large vehicles that run on steel wheels on steel tracks to reduce friction. They can be powered by either fossil fuels or electricity. In europe, they have numerous profitable train routes that operate at speeds in excess of 250KPH. That means Toronto to Montreal in 2 hours, downtown to downtown. For the life of me I don't understand why North Americans are so backwards when it comes to modern transportation technology. A transportation initiative makes sense providing your paying for it. Canadian tax payers already have a large say in those vehicles that run on steel wheels on steel tracks called SUBSIDIZED TRAINS. Via already has 480 trains in eight Canadian provinces. Travel time between Toronto and Montreal is : Montréal - Ottawa - Toronto: VIA Rail's fast modern inter-city trains link Toronto, Ottawa and Montréal. Montréal to Toronto takes about 4 hours 40 minutes city centre to city centre, and the fare starts at around Can$85 if you book in advance. Toronto to Ottawa takes about 4 hours 15 minutes. You can check times, fares & book online at www.viarail.ca. If the demand is there there should be no problem with Quebec financing a project like this with private funds.

Lets hope so. Why? Is this a democratic initiative?

Maybe the thread title should be changed to: "Ottawa to woo provincial governments with taxpayer's money" Maybe you could provide a link relating and explaining the reasons why Ontario received $538M. What do Quebec voters have to do with an initiative that concerns environmental concerns when in Quebec is a provincial initiative independent of voters input? But the Conservatives did say this relating to Quebec voters: "According to various government sources, the Harper government has gone to significant lengths to ensure the national plan will be attractive to Quebec voters." And sources said this: But sources close to the negotiations say the $328 million figure is "a paltry sum," and believe the Tories will give Quebec significantly more in the hopes of improving its electoral fortunes in the province come election time. And the Quebec provincial government said this: "The document also indicates that Quebec will push Ottawa to invest in commuter rail links and other forms of public transportation, including a high-speed rail link for the Quebec-Windsor corridor." High -speed rail link! You don't suppose that BOMBARDIER might become somehow involved? Hope Mr. Harper isn't heading down the Liberal roadway to political destruction.

The liberals in opposition..... Buying votes in Quebec is a risky proposition for any political party. Ask the Liberals, they know all about it and is the prime reason they are presently the opposition. No the prime reason was criminal activity.....had the money not been stolen the Liberals would still be power That's only your opinion and is not a proven fact concerning the reason for the demise of the Liberals. IMO the reason is the blatant Liberal continuous cover up and allegations concerning the PM himself (Mr. Chretien) being involved. The Liberal government themselves were seen as untrustworthy. Sponsorship tax payer money was being dispensed in a totally carefree manner encouraging the type of theft your talking about. The sponsorship issue was an invitation to theft implementing excessive Liberal catering to Quebecers in an effort to buy Quebec votes at any cost.

The liberals in opposition..... Buying votes in Quebec is a risky proposition for any political party. Ask the Liberals, they know all about it and is the prime reason they are presently the opposition.

Is this another $328M simply to buy Quebec votes? What exactly do Canadian taxpayers get back in return? Secret behind the door dealings don't impress me at all especially ones that are counter productive to Canadian society as a whole. http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national...8b2&k=80724