Leafless

Like most freer capitalist countries your life and freedoms in Canada are protected by a more civilized people who do follow a faith and do believe in God. You probably would not even exist if societies were religion free and at the mercy of ruthless barbarians and savages who would never allow any civilized system to develop but are only interested in self personal satisfaction at any cost to themselves and their tribe.

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All famous Canadians I have included in the list of famous Canadians are Canadians that represent collectively majority White English speaking Canadian culture. If any of these these famous Canadians did NOT want to be included collectively as part of the White English speaking Canadian cultural success story, they would limit their talents by catering only to their own their own subculture which they obviously have no intention of doing. If you were not already a minority you would be labelled a bigot and racist for saying what you do in this thread. I have heard this many times before with poutine being a Quebec tradition. And you know what? They can keep their artery clogging grease mess to themselves. You call this a Quebec cultural icon? I call this a burden on Canada's health care system and probably poutine would not exist period, if Quebec residents were forced to pay for their own heart surgeries.

Sorry to disappoint you Posit but Christianity is the main religion in Britain to-day. Christianity is the religion of Britain. Sure there are many Protestants but there are many Catholics and most of the world's religions are practiced in Britain. In Canada the main religion also is Christianity but their are more Catholics than Protestants and this is reflected by the majority White English speaking Canadians. http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/cu.../religions.html You sound like a very bitter, envious person to be so critical of the White majority culture. There are many components to the White established culture like consumerism, materialism, theater, our institutions, television, only to name a few. Canadian culture has nothing to do with "English blue blood" but yes English history and borrowed traditions include. the ENGLISH LANGUAGE, CHRISTMAS, REMEMBRANCE DAY, EASTER, FISH AND CHIPS, DRINKING TEA. We even have images of the QUEEN printed on our money. We do have cultural icons nasmely famous Canadians. Here are some famous Canadians: #1 Avril Lavigne #2 Pamela Anderson #3 Romeo Dallaire #4 Shania Twain #5 Nelly Furtado #6 Estella Warren #7 Sum41 #8 Shannon Tweed #9 Barenakedladies #10 Keanu Reeves #11 Celine Dion #12 Alanis Morissette #13 Peter North #14 Bryan Adams #15 Neil Young #16 Jim Carrey #17 Natasha Henstridge #18 Jennifer Tilly #19 Sarah McLachlan #20 Leonard Cohen And we do have traditons already mentioned including our special one, Canada Day. Of course Canada is multicultural. I never did say Canada was exclusively White. What I did say is that White English speaking Canadians are the majority in Canada that are mostly responsible for maintaining and the carrying on of White or Western cultures and traditions. Your off in deep space somewhere. I have just proven it is the majority culture and traditions that define Canada. How can there be other cultures when we are all Canadian culture by name? I will go so far to say there are Canadian sub-cultures that chose to be identified that way, but that is what they are minority subcultures if they choose not to participate in Canada's majority culture.

This thread has nothing to do with the culture of Leafless. But if you want to talk about culture, let's talk. My family has roots in Canada since around 1879. My cultural is purely Canadian oriented and not associated in any way shape or form from where my family originally immigrated from and place no importance on any other cultural trait that has been inherited by family members over many decades of living in Canada. I believe in the founders of this great country England and it is their culture and language and laws that have made Canada a great country and no one else's. England GAVE us Canada and the Queen is still Canada's head of state and the monarchy is an important part of Canada's history and the least we can do is be forever grateful this gift. I believe in capitalism and freedom. I believe in the institutions that have formed backbone of Canadian cultural and traditions. But what I don't believe in is corrupt federal political parties who have been trying in earnest to change the cultural face of Canada for interest that can be best described as not in the best interest of majority White English speaking Canadians. This is what people like Rue and guyser don't understand, our loyalties and believes are different. they place their faith in a constitution that was written behind closed doors like some communist country without the participation of Canadians to accept or reject Canada's so called racist and discriminatory so called 'Charter of rights and Freedoms'. I don't know what the nationality of Rue or guyser is but I bet dollars to donuts it is non-White or a Quebecer.

A 16yr. old, rodding a Mustang, usually is = trouble. That explains the Mustang. You have neglected or have forgotten to include what the mileage was on the Dart or the Mustang for that matter. Buying any kind of used car requires special attention directed at important components and lubricants. Failure to do this could cause the situation you ended up with a blown motor or tranny, you were not specific.

I don't remember the federal liberals party platform including the plans to implement legislation to make Canada 'officially multicultural'. I don't remember the federal liberals party platform including the plans to create legislation to make the federal public service 'officially bilingual'. I don't remember the federal liberals party platform including the plans to create the 'Charter of Rights and Freedoms' with its main purpose to give Quebec special powers that override the rights of all other Canadians. The charter also created the same rights for any immigrant no matter who they are as any other long standing Canadian. I don't remember the liberals telling us it will be the courts and parliament that will decide who gets what in the way of rights and that all Canadians will be EXCLUDED from the process including the implementation of the Charter itself. There are many sides and opinions concerning the real requirement for immigrants. Or does it simply benefit big business. Ethnic immigrants allowed to settle wherever they want (namely Toronto) with absolutely no controls whatsoever as to where they are permitted to settle and where they are required. Of course the Liberals want all the more in a centralized area means more Liberal votes. But ask any Torontarian and they will tell you uncontrolled ethnic immigration has destroyed the face of Toronto with rampant crime and has created unacceptable social conditions and has created cultural problems pertaining to the ratio of ethnics to White Canadians.

There are NO CURRENT national federal political parties willing to protect the interest of the 'White English speaking majority'. There are policies and legislation from previous federal liberal government that would prevent this. Like was previously mentioned, the federal Liberals have been successful establishing minority cultural interest that overshadow (White English speaking Canadians cultural interest) that include Quebec, Aboriginals and ethnic immigrants. I will repeat it once again and hopefully you will address the topics question: "What must we do to protect our White culture". Canadian voters cannot be blamed for basically supporting a national federal party when unannounced policies and legislation pertaining to minority culture, were secretly put in place by the federal liberals and approved or ratified by our POLITICIANS not CANADIAN VOTERS. If anyone is to blame, the blame totally rest on the shoulders of Canadian politicians. Federal politics in Canada is totally corrupt and politicians REMAIN unaccountable for their actions.

Ok, let's say you are correct. They managed to convince enough non-Quebecers to vote them into power. What responsibility do those who supported them bear? Are you saying that English Canada was so naive that they gave up their free will for MULTIPLE elections? And now that the Liberals are no longer in power, now what? Is English Canadian culture saved or are the Tories also duping English Canada as well? The Conservatives in order to stay in power as a national party must abide by policies and legislation already in place. It would be political suicide for the Conservatives to currently dwell on the proper place pertaining to 'White English culture and national interest'. This is an extremely serious problem with the root problem being the Liberals have been in power to long and the lack of electoral reform to force the governments to be more accountable to the country and not dwell on insignificant issues like culture especially when the only culture should be Canadian. This is why I ask in the title of this thread: "What must we do to protect our White (English speaking) culture."

The federal liberals are or were a lot more stronger in the past and could be categorized as a Quebec party for arguments sake. The Liberals always pretty well led in Quebec. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federal_election,_1979 Check out the results of various elections. The Liberals fed the political interest of Quebec.

You'll have to be more specific. I'm not sure what you mean. How are they treated as "rats in a box"? A little slow to-day, are we? If Canadians over a number of years have been duped by the Liberals over Quebec cultural and ethnic immigrant issues and wake up to that fact, there is no course of corrective action to be taken. All Canadian political parties are in collusion over cultural agreements. There is no political party to stand up for the White English speaking Canadian and say: ' Yes, we understand the White culture is being trampled on by discriminatory and corrupt forces of government and we will fight to the death or take whatever action necessary to halt and correct this cultural assault on White English Canada. This is the situation to-day. There is no one there to defend the national and cultural interest of the White English speaking Canadian.

Ok let's assume they do. So what? All parties do. It is many times easier to appeal to emotions than rationatility. It is up to us individually to distinguish between emotional appeal and our rational best interest and act accordingly. Are you relieving Canadians of responsibility of their actions by transfering that responsiblilty to the Liberals? The Liberals preyed on personal emotions not for the advancement of Canada but for the advancement of Quebec and its nationalistic ideologies. The Liberals are first and foremost a Quebec party. Try this in any other country in the world and see what you are labelled. The Liberals drove a corrupt stake through the hearts of Canadians on the basis of pleading with Canadians to save the country and basically outright lied over policies they said was for the sake of the country, when all along the Liberal plan was to give Quebec more and more and more.

I believe this to be true. Culture 50-60 years ago hardly existed, Canadians were Canadians and Quebec, well, the beginning of hitting the federal government in the pocket book with Quebec becoming fanatically culturally obsessed and leading up to 'official multiculturalism' and 'official bilingualism'. Yes, suddenly the emphasis was on culture and with the emphasis moving towards pandering to the cultural desires of ethnic immigrants, normalized Quebec's political demands based on culture. There was no political party defending the cultural and national interest of 'White English speaking Canadian' and still isn't to-day. White English speaking Canadians appears to be nothing more than a bunch of uncouth plain Jane Canadians worthy of no federal attention.

If most "White" Canadians "do not know any better" and are so stupid that they are so easily duped by a Liberal government, then as Darwin would state, they deserve the fate they get. The Liberals prey on personal emotions and have been quite successful. But I am not really that sure if it as easy as you say it is that "they deserve the fate they get". Only problem is, Canadians are treated like rats in box, even if you know, that eventually, you are being taken advantage of, there is no place to go, no one to run to. Political parties are in collusion with each other over main points that appear to have been accepted by the Canadian public. The main players continue their private war, a continuation of the war 'on the Plains of Abraham'. This country is badly in need of solid leadership and electoral reform and associated referendums. To allow political parties to 'play' with Canadians and Canada the way they currently are is looking for disaster.

Well Rue, I gather you watch WWF and you are trying to emulate the macho-testosterone filled dramatic preambles these wrestlers mouth off prior to the match. Ill give you a little advice. If you cannot contribute to this thread in a meaningful manner rather than indulge in personal attacks, then I will have to tell you to simply F#$K OFF! You come across more of a fag than anything else.

That is because we live in an undemocratic, fascist controlled totalitarian country. Most Canadians do not know any better. The former Liberal government have brainwashed and socially controlled, especially the White English population, with cultural B.S. and the pink socialistic dream talk, we are all equal, more B.S.

We are trying to discuss the issue. Do you think Canadians are like Islamics and their terrorist actions? BTW- the White Canadian majority are not powerless.

Your right, this is a private war between Canada's main political parties, the Liberals=Quebec and the Conservatives= English Canada, a carry on from the 'War on the Plains of Abraham'. So we must hear more how to break up their little game or do we continue to allow them to drain the White cultural lifeblood out of Canada. So far it seems the Libs are winning with their cultural diversity tactics to obliterate Canadian White culture.

Rue, sorry to say that you lack the intellect to understand what this thread is really about and your dramatic repeated accusations pertaining to hate and racism leads me to the conclusion than you are nothing more than an ignorant moron. Please read post #179 to clear out the cob webs that occupy the space between your two ears. Argus leaves a lot to be desired in the many things he says and is functionally literate and delivers the things he says well, but certainly is no great political guru.

I don't believe that you have as much as lost your culture that you need to protect it - whites have their ideology that they carry about and practice and it is protected. You have to admit that you are feeling this way because you are simply out numbered hence overwhelm Culture in a democratic society equates to power and in a democratic country governments are decided by the vote of the majority along with important issues, amendments to the constitution etc. are decided by the will of the people usually by way of referendum. Canada is NOT a democratic country, outside of the basic right right to vote, democracy does not exist. What we have in Canada is cultural power distributed by the undemocratic, discriminatory forces of government. Canadian politicians feel this will prevent social uprisings by minorities but ignore the fact because of the tremendous cost of catering to minority ideologies, Canada suffers in many other areas especially in the area of infrastructure and health care and many other important areas where funds simply do not exist. But Canadian politicians forget, tick off the majority or the provinces and you are in real trouble. This is where I think we are headed, either a majority revolt or the breakup of Canada.

A single Canadian culture? Why? What value is that? And if its singular why does it have to be christian? How would you have given no other option to them? Would you have killed them if they refused to conform (as our european ancestors in fact did in some cases). The forcing of native children into european christian schools is one of the most shameful aspects of our history. I don't know why you think european christian culture is so great. Perhaps its better than some. But I'm personally far more impressed by the native culture we exterminated than i am by what we replaced it with. Andrew A single Canadian culture would make it a lot easier for government to focus on common problems of the land rather continually be involved with extremely divisive political and competitive cultural issues that is the cause of major problems with national unity and the primary cause of social unrest. You ask why a single culture has to be Christian. There are traditions that stem from Christianity a religion this country was founded on, including laws and morals and back then in 1867, yes, the European culture. But I really don't know why you zero in or dwell on religion when there are other important cultural aspects in our capitalistic freer society that are a major part of Canadian culture including consumerism and materialism that over shadow the religious side of Christianity in this country, so religion is not the major factor that is is the base of Canadian culture. Television alone and its associated programing relating to drama, fiction, sports, speciality channels forms an important part of Canadian culture as does McDonald's and all sorts of other fast food outlets. Its should be easy to understand there are many aspects to Canadian culture. You ask why I think the European culture is so great. There is no European culture in Canada outside of what Quebec does partly emulating the lifestyles and mannerisms of France. Outside of this all the other provinces adhere to our Western culture whereas U.S culture has greatly influenced Canadian culture. Canada and the U.S. are born from the same mother, Britain. You say you are more impressed by the native culture we exterminated. I don't think the Whites destroyed the native culture but their culture simply became obsolete with natives not advancing with complications arising from this. It is a complex situation but I don't think the answer is for government to move modern society into the bush. Natives can make their choices like anyone else.

Correct me if I am wrong. Relating to the definition of 'White', means nothing more than one having light coloured skin. Are you really in denial that the majority White Canadian culture has not been developed by Canadians with light coloured skin but rather Canadian culture has been dependent on skin colour other than light?

There is something very perverse about your idea that Aboriginal culture is undermining and imposing on our white christian culture of occupation. Is it not the white christians that undermined and imposed on the Aboriginal culture? Andrew I basically talking cultural demands and cultural aggression and cultural indifference that is taking its toll on Canada and could eventually be the downfall of Canada as a country. You are right the Whites have imposed on the Aboriginal culture in the same manner the British have imposed their will on France and subsequently conquered France on the 'Plains of Abraham'. Culturally speaking all Canadians, Quebecers, Aboriginals and immigrants should have been initially given no other option than to conform to a single Canadian culture or go your separate ways. Quebec and the Aboriginals have both demanded a recognition pertaining to independent societies but both have not been able to create a vibrant society of their own and now are forcing government to provide societies for them, independent politically from Canadian society but paid for by Canadian taxpayers. Like I said previously this is basically the fault of culturally obsessed federal liberals, basically a Quebec political party.

Ah....so you want to give minorities more power....very sneaky.....and disallowing participation by citizens.....how...inscrutable are your ways The last part of that paragraph should read: ' the use of referendums relating to important government decissions in which they have no buisness making WITHOUT the participation of the citizens of Canada.

Then your not a Liberal. The rest of your doctored idiotic post is not worth replying to.