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She baited and trapped him over and over like watching a cat play with a half dead mouse.

Boo hoo...Trump was allowed to have an extra response beyond his allotted time and the last word on almost every question.

Yeah based on right wing memes I thought she was supposed to be unqualified know-nothing "word salad" lady.

True, though I've seen all the trump "debates" and I didn't think it was possible for someone to so effectively neutralize his BS the way she did.

Harris argued circles around Trump. Made a clearer and more appealing message to American voters. Trump was on defense the entire time, rambled off topic, constantly looked nervous on the side-by-side.

If I filed a lawsuit against Arizona for failing to stop republican voters from pooping into the voting machines, that would definitely mean republicans are doing that, right?

Progressives do not like Dick Cheney. But we don't mind seeing the previous generation of right wing criminals bash the current generation of right wing criminals.

1. Ignorance is bliss. 2. Women in general are more likely to expreience depression, and more women are liberal. Same is true for black Americans. 3. Conservatives with mental health problems are less likely to report it or to seek treatment. 4. The way societies define and portray happiness is often through a material lifestyle more accessible to the upper middle class. 5. Researchers in the mid-1800s found that as industrialization spread to new cities, the suicide rate increased. They hypothesized that it had to do with weakening of traditional social bonds. This traditionalism vs modernity divide is likely what is really being measured in these conservative vs liberal depression comparisons.

Well also 65% of republican voters are over the age of 50. And 50% of republican voters now have no college degree. And 79% of republican voters are white. So right now its mostly old uneducated white guys.

It's fair. This judge already did a decent job of keeping the trial going. Prosecutors got their convictions. Sentencing a presidential candidate a month or so before an election would have the appearance of interference.

The guy a serial liar and panderer. Actions speek louder than words and so far 100% of his policy actions on the subject have been to pander to a fringe group of evangelical supporters who for decades staked out a hard-line absolutist anti- abortion policy that even most Republicans don't agree with.

Yeah it's a good strategy for conservatives. Basically it's a plan for a shadow government. On the surface trump can rightfully claim he doesn't know much about it due to not knowing much about anything at all. Meanwhile the actual [mostly sidelined] conservative policy wonks can mobilize their own detailed policy agenda.

That's just marketing and lacks detail. The republican party spent much of the last decade ridding itself of conservatives. So the heritage foundation is trying to mobilize lower-level conservatives in bureaucratic positions to achieve conservatives goals, knowing how inept trump and the maga sycophants are at getting actual policy done.

Exactly. Just like literally every policy he tries and fails to talk about. That's why Project 2025 matters. It has little to do with Trump, it's playbook for the right wing bureaucrats who would actually be governing and unlike trump's transparent pandering, it's perfectly clear on what abortion policy will be.

Yeah that or even just trying to profit from it. Obama had a half bother who was like this too.

Yeah makes the brother look pretty sad. I also have a brother who doesn't have much to do with me and is filled with resentment and a million life problems. I'm pretty sure he would sell me out in 5 seconds if he could.

This would fly with authoritarian type republicans but not many democrats. But, then again, according to the genius logic of the Supreme Court's conservative majority, Biden could right now just drop a nuke on mar-a-lago and call it an official act and he'd be safe from prosecution.

To what extent do you believe in the value of democratic principles and aspiring toward a more democratic society? Not as a distant abstract ideal, but as a set of principles that would be beneficial to society now, if they could ever be more fully realized.

Maybe not, but I think libertarians would likely be the main contingent of Republicans that would go for it. I only mean dystopian in the sense of commodifying people's health. I do appreciate the benefits of a functioning price system, but taken to an extreme in a professional healthcare environment would just not be the kind of world in which I would choose to live. But let me see if I even understand what you're imagining. You're thinking of a system in which people would buy health services directly from health providers, and/or perhaps subscribe, so to speak, directly to a heath providers (instead of to an intermediary health insurance company), and that this would be achieved via some radical alterstion of federal incentives. Perhaps similar to how dental care is funded today. Am I on the right track?

@CdnFox I think you're a good person and I enjoyed our chat. But we reached a dead end in your comprehension of the topic. You're very emotional and seem to lash out at people when you don't understand things or get your way. It's fine. We'll talk again someday after you've calmed down.

That's true, it was a long post and the first 80% of it was not interesting to me. But at the end there you did in fact attempt a well-explained wishlist of what you would want republicans to do with Healthcare. I mean I think it's a rather dystopian anarcho-capitalist vision for healthcare that even conservative- minded people today would be reluctant to ever realistically accept. But I was a libertarian for many years and I understand it and appreciate the appeal.

Nah, the thesis here is that republicans in the US no longer have a plan for healthcare. If anyone thinks they do, or has a fine idea for what it ought to be, they are welcome to enlighten us. But no one is complaining about any lack of the normal random garbage responses.

Regarding the subject of this thread: 5 pages in and still no suggestion about what the republican plan for healthcare ought to be. Too busy on tax cuts for the wealthy and anti-trans laws for the rubes.

Yawn. This is what you giving up looks like.

The trump-RFK bromance bringing us one step closer to the inevitable.