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No. Of course they don’t. There would need to be a constitutional amendment, and that would require both houses of government to agree and 7 of 10 provinces with 50% of the population to ratify. So the rest of Canada has the ultimate say. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-31.8/section-3.html?txthl=terms#:~:text=3 (1) It is recognized,would require negotiations involving at 3 (1) It is recognized that there is no right under the Constitution of Canada to effect the secession of a province from Canada unilaterally and that, therefore, an amendment to the Constitution of Canada would be required for any province to secede from Canada, which in turn would require negotiations involving at least the governments of all of the provinces and the Government of Canada.
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Now - we heal, unite and pull together.
TreeBeard replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
You and @blackbird need to go back to grade 10 Social Studies class. I can’t even believe Canadians could be this ignorant! Where did you get the idea that the Constitution allows for secession??? https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-31.8/section-3.html?txthl=terms#:~:text=3 (1) It is recognized,would require negotiations involving at 3 (1) It is recognized that there is no right under the Constitution of Canada to effect the secession of a province from Canada unilaterally and that, therefore, an amendment to the Constitution of Canada would be required for any province to secede from Canada, which in turn would require negotiations involving at least the governments of all of the provinces and the Government of Canada. -
Yeah, I’m tricking you into saying the myriad of incorrect things you say. 🙄
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You’re so book-smart! You still think indigenous people are under the authority of provincial governments?
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You said Alberta would decide. Did you realize how silly that was?
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So none of the rest of Canada was a British colony? Quebec doesn’t have that right.
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Shockingly ignorant of history. Pick up a book.
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You are wrong every time you type on your keyboard. 😂 Are you really this ignorant?
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You think the province of Alberta decided on its own borders? 😂 Canada determined Alberta’s borders. Canada even kept all Crown land and all resources until 1930. It is up to Canada what happens to Alberta. Without Canada, Alberta doesn’t exist.
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Why do you think Alberta would have the same borders? If 49% of Alberta votes to stay, don’t you think Canada would make sure that the new country of Alberta is half the size it is now?
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Is China mentioned in the bible? Japan? India?
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Now - we heal, unite and pull together.
TreeBeard replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
BC and Manitoba have never discussed leaving the CPP. I don’t even think Saskatchewan has. Also, a retirement plan is not secession. This makes no sense given Ontario’s GDP is larger than all four of those provinces put together. When? And what did the other provinces think of this “plan”? Why would BC be cut off? This is more fantasy. Alberta has the borders it does because that’s what Canada decided. Alberta has no right to secession or keeping its borders if it manages to convince Canada to change the Constitution so it could leave. -
We already do on almost everything. Why shouldn’t we on electric cars?
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Trudeau was unpopular. Unfortunately for the Conservatives, so is Poilievre. Once there was a reasonable alternative to Trudeau that wasn’t Poilievre (Carney), a significant block of voters chose Carney. Trump was also a factor. Canadians didn’t trust Poilievre could or would stand up for Canada against Trump.
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Alberta has no inherent right to Canadian soil, including Canadian oil in that soil. Canada gave Alberta jurisdiction over certain things, like resources, as a province of Canada. https://williamgairdner.ca/does-any-province-of-canada-have-a-right-to-separate/ The land-area now controlled by Alberta was recognized as falling under Alberta jurisdiction as a province of Canada, and not as a separate country. […] Canada’s own Supreme Court, after the last Quebec debacle, issued an opinion that a UDI is not possible in Canada. To wit: “the Constitution does not permit unilateral secession: Canada is a federal state based on constitutional government – and subject to the rule of law. The courts have a duty to uphold that Constitution – and to ensure that no level of government exceeds its powers. Secession would affect the structure and scope of that Constitution – so it would require constitutional amendments,” Canada would have as much right to decide what lands belong to a nation called Alberta as Alberta does. Canada would also have a duty to the citizens who voted against secession and wish to remain citizens of a province in Canada. Alberta secession is just a fantasy. A fantasy of an aggrieved few who aren’t mature enough to deal with not getting their way in politics It’s pathetic. Even if Carney fails as PM, there is no solution by seceding from Canada.
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What happens next to the Conservative Party?
TreeBeard replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
The only reason I would begrudge him for his pension is the fact that the Cons campaigned against Singh because of his MP pension. The hypocrisy of that was so crass. And the lickspittle Conservatives supporters couldn’t even see the hypocrisy of holding his pension against him while PP and co. accumulate their own. At least Singh held an actual job before he became a politician, unlike PP. -
What happens next to the Conservative Party?
TreeBeard replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Poilievre sounded downright giddy in his speech after he lost. I think he is ecstatic not to win. He gets a nice vacation. When he’s back he will be in his comfortable spot as opposition leader where he can snarl and just oppose everything. I’m not even sure he wanted to win! He’d probably be wondering what the heck to do! -
Now - we heal, unite and pull together.
TreeBeard replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
You’re full of shite. BC and MB have never “discussed separation”. -
What happens next to the Conservative Party?
TreeBeard replied to betsy's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
He blew a 25 point lead on the Libs. He couldn’t even win his own riding!! If you mean he wasn’t a raving lunatic who sounds like Trump, then I guess. -
Should someone unelected lead a political party?
TreeBeard replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
What do you think are the ramifications of having a “Socialist regime” on your doorstep? -
Should someone unelected lead a political party?
TreeBeard replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Were you complaining that Carney was unelected?