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LMAO oh please! Trump’s unstable dumpster fire of an administration had more people coming and going than a whorehouse during fleet week! Whenever someone got fired or resigned - which was practically every day - the Trumpsters were always quick to say “nothing to see here! Move along, move along!” Now this guy claims his spidey sense was tingling the whole time. This is just more made-up revisionism Yet another rat flees the sinking ship of SS TRUMP ps photo of Trump’ boaters who can’t sail is still hilarious

Well technically he’s not a “convicted pedophile.” While I found his behaviour disgusting for a number of reasons, AFAIK 17 is above the legal age of consent just about everywhere. Remember Stephen Harper’s minister of Justice, public safety and other very senior positions named Vic Toews who, while married and age 54, impregnated his Kids’’ 17 year old babysitter? Is he a pedo too?

Don’t forget Mark Foley and Trump surrogate Ralph Shortey, both of whom had an appetite foe young boys. The Republican deviants really seem to like young boys. Shall we just keep this about Republican pedos or can I also talk about Republican whore-mongers like the Trump Aide Jason Miller who loved to frequently cheat on his family with strippers, massage parlours and hookers and then secretly spike their drinks with abortion pills after knocking them up?

He was famous in his time dum-dum. Not so much after he ended up on the wrong side of history

Your response is not a rebuttal, it’s just responding to facts with insults

Another famous media personality did something similar once: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knut_Hamsun's_obituary_of_Adolf_Hitler

No,Fascism is an extreme right wing cause. It is when authoritarian and violent tactics are used to specifically enforce right-wing policy goals And the brown shirts are clearly the pro-Trump mob thay sacked the Capitol in an attack to reinstall Trump as President No Antifa or BLM ever rioted or demonstrated Biden or Hillary or attended their rallies. Most Antifa and BLM think the Democrats are just as corrupt as Republicans and want to destroy both parties. Although they surely saw Trump as the bigger evil during his administration.

That is not the definition of fascism. Anyone from the left or right can do that. Fascism is an extreme right wing cause. It is when authoritarian and violent tactics are used to specifically enforce right-wing policy goals

If someone says that....and then immediately proceeds to throw the president from the aircraft at 30,000 ft cruising altitude, prosecutors will definitely use those words against him in court to show his actions were premeditated. People will understand based on what actually happened next that when he said those words what he really meant was that he was going to kill the president. Get it? And uh. Walk to / march to / march on are much more similar to each other than your example.

Back to the original topic of the thread: Newsmax anchor walks off set after failing to stop MyPillow CEO's false rigged-election rant My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell has seen his personal and corporate Twitter accounts suspended in the past week due to violating a disinformation standard regarding his repeated false claim that President Donald Trump won the November election. He was shut down again Tuesday for propagating that conspiracy theory, but this time by a surprising source: Newsmax, the Trump-friendly, right-wing upstart cable network. After repeatedly trying to cut Lindell off as he perpetuated election falsehoods, Newsmax anchor Bob Sellers eventually gave up and, in a bizarre scene, got up and walked away from his anchor chair. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4363781001 I guess now we’ll have to hear how the ultra-right wing Newsmax is really part of the global socialist conspiracy now. ?

Look here’s an example: if Someone says “Kill” the president, “assassinate” the president, or “murder” the president....those different words that sometimes have a different connotation but they all mean the same thing, dummy. I’m not a liar if I claim you said one but your actual verbatim quote was one of the others. Just as sad and desperate and pathetic attempts on your part. You’ve totally out of lame arguments to defend your insurrection-inciting president, having lost again and again....so now all you can do is invent and repeat lame weak-ass excuses to try call me a liar over and over. So sad. Haha Trump doesn’t have any Twitter followers now! And now your excuse is that only a small percentage of his supporters are terrorists so it’s ok if he only incites those people. LMAO. Lame. Somehow every other current and past leader of the western world since 1945 has figured out how to not accidentally inspire terrorist cells amongst their followers! Too bad Trump is too stupid to figure it out.. and let’s be clear Trump accidentally incited the violence out of his own stupidity and arrogance despite constant warnings of what would be the logical result of the constant violent rhetoric and outrageous lies from him and his goons And this was predicted long ago here’s an article from MAY 2020, 8 months before his insurrection No Blame?' ABC News finds 54 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story%3fid=58912889 Who could have predicted the Capitol riot? Plenty of people — including Trump allies. .....Pro-Trump online forums featured myriad predictions of calls for violence, including users repeatedly responding to a thread by saying, “storm the Capitol.” One popular comment read, “I’m thinking it will be literal war on that day. … Where we’ll storm offices and physically remove and even kill all the D.C. traitors and reclaim the country.” The comments were highlighted by the Daily Beast even before the Capitol attack. Perhaps the most detailed and prescient prediction came from Arieh Kovler, a political analyst who studies far-right groups such as the Proud Boys. “On January 6, armed Trumpist militias will be rallying in DC, at Trump’s orders,” Kovler said on Dec. 21. “It’s highly likely that they’ll try to storm the Capitol after it certifies Joe Biden’s win. I don’t think this has sunk in yet.” He added: “To be clear here, I don’t think the 3%ers, Proud Boys, Oathkeepers or boogaloo types are going to seize the Capitol. But some of them are going try. And people will die.” In October, former Trump administration counterterrorism official Elizabeth Neumann made a similar, if less specific, prediction about Trump claiming a stolen election leading to violence. New York Times columnist Kara Swisher also envisioned such a scenario as far back as 2019, saying she often asked people what could be done “if Mr. Trump loses the 2020 election and tweets inaccurately the next day that there had been widespread fraud and, moreover, that people should rise up in armed insurrection to keep him in office.”..... https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/28/who-could-have-predicted-capitol-siege-plenty-people/%3foutputType=amp Trump Allies Raise the Prospect of Political Violence Around the Election BY BRIAN BENNETT UPDATED: SEPTEMBER 16, 2020 2:59 PM EDT | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: SEPTEMBER 16, 2020 11:01 AM EDT Two allies and former political advisers of President Donald Trump are hinting at the prospect of election-related violence, injecting a new level of turbulence in a stormy political climate. Trump’s long-time friend and adviser Roger Stone, calling into the conspiracy website Infowars on Sept. 10, said Trump should use “martial law” to stay in office or invoke the Insurrection Act if he doesn’t win. Stone, whose sentence for seven felony crimes was commuted by the President in July, also said Republicans should physically block ballots from being counted. Michael Caputo, who worked on Trump’s 2016 campaign and is now a public affairs adviser for the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), said in a Facebook Live video on Sunday that violence was coming. He predicted without evidence that Trump’s opponent, Democratic nominee Joe Biden, would refuse to concede if Trump wins. Violence, he said, would follow. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/time.com/5889425/political-violence-presidential-election/%3famp=true

You. Are. So. Desperate. Trump and his goons incited the violence from his deplorable sum-of-the-earth supporters. He told them to march on the capitol. I never said that was a verbatim quote You are so sad and desperate that you’re hanging your hat on that now....especially after all your false claims that Democrats especially Obama and Harris encouraged the riots! Funny now you’re like ‘but he said “to” not “on” and “walk” not “march” “ and then after demanding the quote for Eric as proof now you’re like but that was Eric not Donald”. Watching you constantly move the goalposts and contradict yourself and quibble over trivialities is entertaining! Oh and go ahead insult me some more, we all know that’s just your sad effort to redirect the topic of conversation to be about me and distract from your disgraced and crooked insurrection-inciting failed ex-president

First your stupid magic word games are not how the world works He gathered a mob, worked it up into a violent frenzy and sent it to the capital where it committed violence...you think a silly preposition makes a diff? Like if I paid a hitman to shoot “towards” someone but don’t say the magic word “at” someone then I can just go to court with a dictionary and get found not responsible? Try finishing high school sometime to understand the world doesn’t run on magic words. You make Bill Clintons “definition of is is” argument seem like genius in comparison SECONDLY: You second been caught lying multiple times about your own stupid irrelevant magic word games now. At first you falsely claimed nobody used the word “march” even though the official name of the event was “March to save America” and Multiple people including Trump himself used the word “march”. And now you’re lying that you haven’t been provided the Eric Trump quote to “march on” despite the fact I’ve provided it to you at least twice. How convenient that you can’t recall it For the THIRD TIME NOW: “Have some backbone. Show some fight. Learn from Donald Trump,” Eric Trump told the crowd. “And we need to march on the Capitol today. “ https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/01/06/trump-threat-primaries-gop-lawmakers-455366 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/federal-investigation-capitol-riot-trump/2021/01/07/178d71ac-512c-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html%3foutputType=amp So you’re getting owned at your own stupid irrelevant magic word game and have resorted to lying. Typical.

As was accurately predicted, none of the donations Trump the fraudster collected for his bogus election fraud claims actually went to funding his bogus election fraud claims. He simply pocketed the money Trump Raised $76 Million -- Then Spent Nothing On Vote Challenges Or Georgia Trump's bait-and-switch ads cited the need to contest his election loss and for the GOP to hold the Senate as he sought funds for his “leadership” PAC. WASHINGTON ― Then-President Donald Trump raised $76 million for a political slush fund by citing the need to challenge his Nov. 3 reelection loss and for Republicans to win two Senate runoffs in Georgia, but through the end of 2020 he did not spend a dime of it on either. “He put nothing back. He didn’t care,” said one top Republican familiar with the fundraising operation who spoke on condition of anonymity, adding that Trump intends to use the money to pay his personal, non-election-related, legal bills. “He put all this money in the bank for his own legal fights. He never cared about Georgia’s races.” Many Republicans say that, far from helping his party win the Jan. 5 Georgia races, Trump’s repeated lies about the election having been stolen from him ― particularly in the Peach State, where he narrowly lost to Democrat Joe Biden ― depressed turnout among GOP voters and cost them both seats and control of the Senate. Trump’s “Save America” leadership committee, which he can use for just about any purpose he wants, including paying himself a salary, reported ending the year with $31.2 million in the bank. And it’s entitled to another $45 million sitting in the account of a joint fundraising committee with the Republican National Committee. That joint operation, the Trump Make America Great Again Committee, sent out hundreds of fundraising emails and texts on Save America’s behalf starting from Nov. 11 right through Jan. 6, just minutes before the mob of Trump supporters attacked the Capitol after being instructed by him to stop Congress from officially certifying Biden’s victory. Five people died during the riot, including one police officer killed by the mob, and 140 were injured. ... https://www.google.ca/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_6018900dc5b6bde2f5c232bb/amp

LMAO OMG Meltdown! Meltdown in aisle seven! Seriously don’t go over the edge and start storming any government buildings like your terrorist Trump-incited buddies did! ?? For someone with nothing else in life other than ltrolling this forum you sure don’t have a very good grasp of what’s been discussed. So I’m putting this part in big letters for you: AND YOUR WERE SHOWN SEVERAL TIMES WHERE ERIC TRUMP SAID “MARCH ON “ THE CAPITAL. ARE YOU A LIAR OR JUST STUPID?? The ridiculous lengths you go to in order to absurdly blame democrats for inciting BLM riots while simultaneously trying to exonerate Trump for inciting the capitol building attack is hilarious and pathetic and only a brainwashed cultist could produce that kind of hypocritical pretzel logic

Lol what are you suggesting “happened”? Can’t wait to hear this one You need to get off the internet. Seriously, before you start mailing people bombs or anthrax None of it has been verified. It’s just unproven allegations from the political party with a long track record of false claims. Haha ok yeah that’s why! Not because Republicans are spineless immoral partisan hacks. ? They were not bogus and he did incite an insurrection.

Yeah you might not be able to relate but those of us with full time jobs and families don’t have unlimited time to argue with right wing internet crackpots. The only actual election fraud is your alt-right Twitter troll friend there and your Dear Leader’s failed attempt to steal the election he lost with his made-up claims. Are you sure? You didn’t understand it in English last time. You lied when you said the NY Post article was verified as being accurate If you could do simple math, you'd know that 100-45 is less than 60, and 45 Senators already voted to kick this latest impeachment sham to the curb. ? The verdict may br a foregone conclusion but there will still be a trial and Trump has no lawyers because they all resigned in frustration over his idiocy. The moron thinks his impeachment will be a chance to re-litigate his 50+ failed lawsuits over his fake election fraud claims. He doesn’t seem to understand that he is being impeached for inciting an insurrection and his fake fraud claims are not only discredited and unbelievable but completely irrelevant to his defence.

The ‘civil war’ for the soul of the GOP is over before it began. Trump won — again Just three weeks ago, congressional GOP leaders set out to reclaim their party from President Donald Trump and his violent supporters. Trump had frequently emboldened white supremacists and domestic terrorists, but never more visibly than when he recruited and incited those who sacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 — and then did nothing for hours as they rampaged, hunting for lawmakers, in hopes of overturning the election.... Yet just three weeks after feebly trying to quit Trump, they have relapsed. It’s as though Abraham Lincoln had offered the Union’s unconditional surrender after the first shots were fired at Fort Sumter. Thanks to the cowardice of McCarthy and the perfidy of McConnell, the GOP now comprises two relatively harmonious factions: those who actively sabotage democracy, and those who tacitly condone the sabotage. Trump is gone; Trumpism reigns..... Worse, McCarthy decided to embrace Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), a QAnon adherent and anti-Semite who, CNN uncovered this week, had “liked” social media comments recommending “a bullet to the head” of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and proposing that FBI agents should be executed for helping the fictional “deep state. McCarthy’s spokesman said the GOP leader would “have a conversation with the congresswoman.” Apparently he did — and McCarthy decided to reward Greene by giving her the seat she desired on the House Education Committee. That’s a plum assignment for a woman who claimed the Parkland and Sandy Hook school shootings were hoaxes and the grieving parents actors. Pelosi justifiably called McCarthy’s rewarding of Greene “absolutely appalling” and said she’d seek more security for lawmakers — especially because “the enemy is within the House of Representatives.” “Enemy” is the right word. Somebody who wants to see you assassinated isn’t merely your opponent..... If anything, it’s even worse at lower levels in the party. The Texas Republican Party has been promoting its new slogan in recent days, “We are the Storm” — an echo of the QAnon term for when Trump’s enemies will face mass executions. Arizona’s Republican Party, which asked whether Trump supporters were ready to die to overturn Trump’s defeat, just censured the state’s sitting Republican governor, Doug Ducey, for certifying President Biden’s win in the state. Oregon’s Republican Party proposed that the attack on the Capitol was a “false flag” operation. Hawaii’s Republican Party praised QAnon believers and promoted a Holocaust denier. This is not mere madness — it is madness with consequences. A republic cannot prosper when one side uses the threat of political violence as a means to power. A stable country cannot long survive with the threat of assassination constantly hanging over its leaders. Members of Congress wrote to House leaders Thursday pleading for more personal security for themselves and their families. “Members now regularly face threats,” they wrote. “The increased level of threats has overwhelmed the Capitol Police Threat Assessment Section.”... The Department of Homeland Security warned on Wednesday that “ideologically-motivated violent extremists with objections to the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition, as well as other perceived grievances fueled by false narratives, could continue to mobilize to incite or commit violence.” The Capitol attack, DHS said, may embolden them “to target elected officials and government facilities.” This isn’t abstract. In a legal filing this week, the FBI disclosed that one such violent extremist, a Trump supporter, was found with five pipe bombs, 49 firearms, 15,000 rounds of ammunition, and bomb-making material. Authorities believe he was targeting California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), Twitter, Facebook and “Democratic targets” to make sure Trump stayed in office.... Is it any wonder the threat of violence has become a constant presence in our political life? We see death threats against state elections officials, state and local health officials, and, of course, journalists. People plotted to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor. Anthony S. Fauci, the federal government’s top infectious disease doctor, has been under Secret Service protection since March because of threats to him, his wife and his children. He described to the New York Times this week opening a letter filled with powder, requiring a hazmat crew to spray him down. This week, a man claiming “Biden did not win” was arrested for threatening Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) and his family. The Justice Department, meanwhile, revealed new charges against one of those who attacked the Capitol over his threat to “assassinate” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and for saying that the Capitol Police officer who fatally shot one of the invaders “deserves to die.” Earlier this month, the FBI arrested a Georgia man over his plans for “putting a bullet in” Pelosi’s head. A New Hampshire man was arrested for threatening to kill six members of Congress, saying, “Donald Trump is your president. If you don’t get behind him, we’re going to hang you until you die.” And an Illinois man was arrested for his vow to “kill any motherf-----g Democrat” that attempts to enter the White House. And federal authorities have brought cases against 164 people from 39 states and D.C. involved in the Capitol attack, according to George Washington University’s tally. Republicans think they’ll save their political hides by capitulating to Trump. But, inevitably, that also means capitulating to his violent supporters. And democracy can’t function at the point of a gun. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/01/29/civil-war-soul-of-gop-over-trump-won/?arc404=true

Nope never banned or suspended there either. I don’t think there was a moderator problem there at all.

You hilariously declared that McCarthy was “an American hero”. And I rightly corrected and mocked you, which was neither lying nor trolling. Everything since has been a response to your ongoing butthurt reactions. Now let’s get back on topic

‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy David Smith The KGB ‘played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality’, Yuri Shvets, a key source for a new book, tells the Guardian Donald Trump was cultivated as a Russian asset over 40 years and proved so willing to parrot anti-western propaganda that there were celebrations in Moscow, a former KGB spy has told the Guardian. Yuri Shvets, posted to Washington by the Soviet Union in the 1980s, compares the former US president to “the Cambridge five”, the British spy ring that passed secrets to Moscow during the second world war and early cold war. Now 67, Shvets is a key source for American Kompromat, a new book by journalist Craig Unger, whose previous works include House of Trump, House of Putin. The book also explores the former president’s relationship with the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein. “This is an example where people were recruited when they were just students and then they rose to important positions; something like that was happening with Trump,” Shvets said by phone on Monday from his home in Virginia. Shvets, a KGB major, had a cover job as a correspondent in Washington for the Russian news agency Tass during the 1980s. He moved to the US permanently in 1993 and gained American citizenship. He works as a corporate security investigator and was a partner of Alexander Litvinenko, who was assassinated in London in 2006. Unger describes how Trump first appeared on the Russians’ radar in 1977 when he married his first wife, Ivana Zelnickova, a Czech model. Trump became the target of a spying operation overseen by Czechoslovakia’s intelligence service in cooperation with the KGB. Three years later Trump opened his first big property development, the Grand Hyatt New York hotel near Grand Central station. Trump bought 200 television sets for the hotel from Semyon Kislin, a Soviet émigré who co-owned Joy-Lud electronics on Fifth Avenue. According to Shvets, Joy-Lud was controlled by the KGB and Kislin worked as a so-called “spotter agent” who identified Trump, a young businessman on the rise, as a potential asset. Kislin denies that he had a relationship with the KGB. Then, in 1987, Trump and Ivana visited Moscow and St Petersburg for the first time. Shvets said he was fed KGB talking points and flattered by KGB operatives who floated the idea that he should go into politics. The ex-major recalled: “For the KGB, it was a charm offensive. They had collected a lot of information on his personality so they knew who he was personally. The feeling was that he was extremely vulnerable intellectually, and psychologically, and he was prone to flattery. “This is what they exploited. They played the game as if they were immensely impressed by his personality and believed this is the guy who should be the president of the United States one day: it is people like him who could change the world. They fed him these so-called active measures soundbites and it happened. So it was a big achievement for the KGB active measures at the time.” Soon after he returned to the US, Trump began exploring a run for the Republican nomination for president and even held a campaign rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. On 1 September, he took out a full-page advert in the New York Times, Washington Post and Boston Globe headlined: “There’s nothing wrong with America’s Foreign Defense Policy that a little backbone can’t cure.” The ad offered some highly unorthodox opinions in Ronald Reagan’s cold war America, accusing ally Japan of exploiting the US and expressing scepticism about US participation in Nato. It took the form of an open letter to the American people “on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves”. The bizarre intervention was cause for astonishment and jubilation in Russia. A few days later Shvets, who had returned home by now, was at the headquarters of the KGB’s first chief directorate in Yasenevo when he received a cable celebrating the ad as a successful “active measure” executed by a new KGB asset. “It was unprecedented. I am pretty well familiar with KGB active measures starting in the early 70s and 80s, and then afterwards with Russia active measures, and I haven’t heard anything like that or anything similar – until Trump became the president of this country – because it was just silly. It was hard to believe that somebody would publish it under his name and that it will impress real serious people in the west but it did and, finally, this guy became the president.” Trump’s election win in 2016 was again welcomed by Moscow. Special counsel Robert Mueller did not establish a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. But the Moscow Project, an initiative of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, found the Trump campaign and transition team had at least 272 known contacts and at least 38 known meetings with Russia-linked operatives. Shvets, who has carried out his own investigation, said: “For me, the Mueller report was a big disappointment because people expected that it will be a thorough investigation of all ties between Trump and Moscow, when in fact what we got was an investigation of just crime-related issues. There were no counterintelligence aspects of the relationship between Trump and Moscow.” He added: “This is what basically we decided to correct. So I did my investigation and then got together with Craig. So we believe that his book will pick up where Mueller left off.” Unger, the author of seven books and a former contributing editor for Vanity Fair magazine, said of Trump: “He was an asset. It was not this grand, ingenious plan that we’re going to develop this guy and 40 years later he’ll be president. At the time it started, which was around 1980, the Russians were trying to recruit like crazy and going after dozens and dozens of people.” “Trump was the perfect target in a lot of ways: his vanity, narcissism made him a natural target to recruit. He was cultivated over a 40-year period, right up through his election.” https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/29/trump-russia-asset-claims-former-kgb-spy-new-book

You’re a lying troll and I’m trolling you? You got the first part right!?

mocking you for the ridiculous things you say isn’t trolling or lying

As I said he’s the least worst option in a system that can only produce bad options. Bernie and the true left will never be viable contenders for the throne. The only viable candidates for most important offices are corporate puppets in the corrupt US political system. Characters like Bernie and AOC are just for show but don’t ever stand a chance

Where did I say that? In the cesspool that is US politics, he’s currently the the cleanest turd - the least worst option in a system that can only produce varying degrees of bad options