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future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
No, Putin calls him collect -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons' 02:36 EST 31 Dec 2002 , updated 03:43 EST 31 Dec 2002 US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld helped Saddam Hussein build up his arsenal of deadly chemical and biological weapons, it was revealed last night. As an envoy from President Reagan 19 years ago, he had a secret meeting with the Iraqi dictator and arranged enormous military assistance for his war with Iran. The CIA had already warned that Iraq was using chemical weapons almost daily. But Mr Rumsfeld, at the time a successful executive in the pharmaceutical industry, still made it possible for Saddam to buy supplies from American firms. They included viruses such as anthrax and bubonic plague, according to the Washington Post. The extraordinary details have come to light because thousands of State Department documents dealing with the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war have just been declassified and released under the Freedom of Information Act. At the very least, it is highly embarrassing for 70-year-old Mr Rumsfeld, who is the most powerful and vocal of all the hawks surrounding President Bush. He bitterly condemns Saddam as a ruthless and brutal monster and frequently backs up his words by citing the use of the very weapons which it now appears he helped to supply. The question is: Why has he never said anything about his role in the negotiations? 'Donald Rumsfeld has some explaining to do,' a senior Pentagon official said last night, while Congressional sources said that a Senate Committee was considering opening hearings to investigate exactly what happened. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.html U.S. Had Key Role in Iraq Buildup High on the Bush administration's list of justifications for war against Iraq are President Saddam Hussein's use of chemical weapons, nuclear and biological programs, and his contacts with international terrorists. What U.S. officials rarely acknowledge is that these offenses date back to a period when Hussein was seen in Washington as a valued ally. Among the people instrumental in tilting U.S. policy toward Baghdad during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war was Donald H. Rumsfeld, now defense secretary, whose December 1983 meeting with Hussein as a special presidential envoy paved the way for normalization of U.S.-Iraqi relations. Declassified documents show that Rumsfeld traveled to Baghdad at a time when Iraq was using chemical weapons on an "almost daily" basis in defiance of international conventions. The story of U.S. involvement with Saddam Hussein in the years before his 1990 attack on Kuwait -- which included large-scale intelligence sharing, supply of cluster bombs through a Chilean front company, and facilitating Iraq's acquisition of chemical and biological precursors -- is a topical example of the underside of U.S. foreign policy. It is a world in which deals can be struck with dictators, human rights violations sometimes overlooked, and accommodations made with arms proliferators, all on the principle that the "enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Throughout the 1980s, Hussein's Iraq was the sworn enemy of Iran, then still in the throes of an Islamic revolution. U.S. officials saw Baghdad as a bulwark against militant Shiite extremism and the fall of pro-American states such as Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and even Jordan -- a Middle East version of the "domino theory" in Southeast Asia. That was enough to turn Hussein into a strategic partner and for U.S. diplomats in Baghdad to routinely refer to Iraqi forces as "the good guys," in contrast to the Iranians, who were depicted as "the bad guys." A review of thousands of declassified government documents and interviews with former policymakers shows that U.S. intelligence and logistical support played a crucial role in shoring up Iraqi defenses against the "human wave" attacks by suicidal Iranian troops. The administrations of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush authorized the sale to Iraq of numerous items that had both military and civilian applications, including poisonous chemicals and deadly biological viruses, such as anthrax and bubonic plague. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/12/30/us-had-key-role-in-iraq-buildup/133cec74-3816-4652-9bd8-7d118699d6f8/ As to your claims that Saddam had a WMD arsenal in 2003 that is just completely false as evidenced by that face that neither Saddam nor ISIS used WMD to prevent their own defeat Regarding Muthanna, once again a Trump supporter doesn’t have the intellectual acumen to fully read his own articles... shocking. All of your links confirm there was nothing usable at the site since Desert Storm as it had been bombed during that war and then under UNSCOM control. And remember your Republican liars did not claim Saddam might have a few obsolete mothballed shells in Disposal sites that he might refurbish someday. They said he had a highly sophisticated and fully operational and ACTIVE State of the art WMD program with mobile ICBM launchers roving the desert that could strike US soil within 45 minutes. Remember? -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Not the same thing at all -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
She most certainly did, you can watch the concession speech here you selective amnesiac -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Here’s a fact you keep forgetting: Hillary Clinton conceded the election on Election night. Unlike classless lying Trump and opportunistic Republicans, the Democrats from day 1 said Trump was the legitimate president chosen by a legitimate election. Even though Russians actively influenced the opinions of American voters in Trumps favour, and even though the Trump campaign team benefited from insider information from Russian sources, it has always been said that the votes of the American people were properly counted. -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Well I’m glad the typo is the only thing you disagree with -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
That’s another of your lies. I never said 2016 was stolen. -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
LOL nice try Considering your hero Ronald Reagan gleefully sold WMD to Saddam we know he had them AT ONE POINT IN TIME But we also know the last of them were all destroyed or expired (Chemical and biological weapons have limited shelf life) after Desert Storm due to UN sanctions, a decade before Bush’s lie The fact that ISIS never used any WMD proves that your claim about Muthanna facility is BS. The bunker was bombed during the first Gulf war in February 1991, and the contents were rendered inert and impossible to weaponize by UN inspectors after the war. -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
That’s not evidence those are crackpot claims crowdsourced from the internet that have zero credibility and they’ve already been laughed out of court dozens of time. Keep trying though it’s amusing -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
And Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate and Saddam’s WMD too! Good luck with that ? -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
“Compassionate Conservatism” at work LMAO In conservative paradise, government’s job is to do absolutely nothing, even during a state of emergency, except tweet out drunken rants berating and mocking those in need. Yet more evidence of the right-wing shitholes the Red states have become Texas mayor tells residents to fend for themselves during power outage: ‘Only the strong will survive’ By Tuesday morning, the residents of Colorado City, Tex., were getting anxious. More than 24 hours had passed since a deadly Arctic blast knocked out power across the state, leaving them without heat or electricity in below-freezing temperatures. To make matters worse, many also lacked running water, forcing them to haul in heavy buckets of snow each time they needed to flush their toilets. Residents turned to a community Facebook group to ask whether the small town planned to open warming shelters, while others wondered if firefighters could do their job without water. But when Colorado City’s mayor chimed in, it was to deliver a less-than-comforting message: The local government had no responsibility to help out its citizens, and only the tough would survive. “No one owes you [or] your family anything,” Tim Boyd wrote on Tuesday in a now-deleted Facebook post, according to KTXS and KTAB/KRBC. “I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!” Boyd’s tirade, which also demanded that “lazy” residents find their own ways of procuring water and electricity, immediately drew backlash. Later on Tuesday, Boyd announced his resignation and admitted that he could have “used better wording.” Dangerous Arctic chill leaves more than a dozen dead, widespread power outages across the southern U.S. The controversy highlighted how one of the worst winter storms in decades is testing the limits of the embrace of self-sufficiency and rugged individualism in Texas. The state’s decision to skirt federal oversight by operating its own power grid is one of the main reasons that close to 3.3 million residents in Texas still lacked electricity by early Wednesday morning, while outages in other hard-hit states had dwindled to less than one-tenth of that size. As of late Tuesday, grid operators still couldn’t predict when the lights might turn on, and advocates were warning that Texas’s poorest and most vulnerable residents were at risk of freezing to death. At least 10 deaths in Texas have been linked to the winter storm since Monday, according to the Houston Chronicle. The failure to deliver basic services has angered countless Texans, including top-ranking elected officials. But in Colorado City, Boyd rejected the notion that municipal governments or utility companies had any obligation to provide paying customers with necessities like heat and running water during a catastrophic winter storm. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/02/17/texas-mayor-power-outages-colorado/%3foutputType=amp -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Fervent belief in complete contradiction evidence is nothing more than superstition. You might as well try to convince people that the earth is flat with lizard people living under the surface. Because your beleifs re just as plausible and you have just as much “proof” as they do. -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
First of all you’ve already been shown proof of them condemning the violence yet you continue to repeat your lie. Secondly your argument is false because supporting something and failing to sufficiently condemn something are not the same. I mean it’s not like they tweeted you’re special we love you” to the rioters the way Trump did to his terrorist followers. It’s not like the Democrats invented the cause the mob was rioting for the way Trump did. It’s not like the Democrats planned, organized, funded and delivered incendiary speeches at the event that turned into the riot the way Trump did It’s not like Democrats continued with their plans to host rallies even after they were warned that some of their followers were planning to commit violence then way Trump did Its not like the Democrats continued to egg on the mob with incendiary tweets even after they know it had turned violent. its not like BLM rioters were believed to believed they were doing Obama’s bidding and were monitoring their phones expecting instructions from Obama, they way Trump rioters in the Capitol thought they were doing Trumps bidding and were expecting to receive further instructions tweeted from Trump -
America Under pResident Biden
BeaverFever replied to Shady's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Oh please. The Republican party is lousy with anti-semites and white supremacists. They just elected a Trump supporting crackpot who believes that forest fires are started by Jews with Space Lasers! -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Use your brain. How can someone prove something never happened? This is just more of you backwards logic and reverse onus false accusations just like your phoney election fraud claims The Dems did not support riots or murdes. Yoy made that up and YOU have to prove it true not the other way around genius -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Back to the topic though. The future of the Republican Party is that it will continue to resort to anti-democratic thug tactics in order to serve its wealthy elite clientele because it is increasingly unpopular Consider the following: “The Republican Party of the past won elections by persuading most Americans that it would do a better job than Democrats of running the country. Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon and Dwight Eisenhower each won at least 57 percent of the vote in their re-election campaigns. George W. Bush won 51 percent, largely by appealing to swing voters on national security, education, immigration and other issues. A party focused on rebuilding a national majority probably could not stay tethered to Trump. But the modern Republican Party has found ways other than majority support to achieve its goals. It benefits from a large built-in advantage in the Senate, which gives more power to rural and heavily white states. The filibuster also helps Republicans more than it does Democrats. In the House and state legislatures, both parties have gerrymandered, but Republicans have done more of it. In the courts, Republicans have been more aggressive about putting judges on the bench and blocking Democratic presidents from doing so. In the Electoral College, Democrats currently waste more votes than Republicans by running up large state-level victories. All of this helps explain Trump’s second acquittal. The Republican Party is in the midst of the worst run that any party has endured — across American history — in the popular vote of presidential elections, having lost seven of the past eight. Yet the party has had a pretty good few decades, policy-wise. It has figured out how to succeed with minority support. Republican-appointed justices dominate the Supreme Court. Republicans are optimistic they can retake control of both the House and the Senate next year (even if they win fewer votes nationwide). Taxes on the wealthy are near their lowest level in a century. Democrats have failed to enact many of their biggest priorities — on climate change, Medicare, the minimum wage, preschool, gun control, immigration and more.” -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Everything you said in your above post is a lie. Plain and simple. -
future of the Republican party
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
LMAO ! Don’t let your past 50+ legal failures discourage you, THIS TIME you’ll win! Some suckers never learn -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Criminals need to face justice. Bullies must be stood up to. Even when the outcome is already certain because the criminals have friends on the jury and bullies have stooges to hold their coat -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
OMG “corporations don’t want deregulation”. The latest idiotic Fisdledog nonsense FACTS FOR TRUMPTARDS: Trump inherited the longest economic expansion in US History, which began in June 2009 and lasted tp February 2020: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_economic_expansions_in_the_United_States The debt and deficit exploded under Trump. Vague promises to somehow magically male it all disappear someday at an indeterminate point doesn’t change that. I guess it must be with his promised magical health insurance plan that was supposed to cover 100% of every expense for 100% of the population and costs absolutely nothing -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
LMAO Your opposite-of-reality stories never cease to entertain! Trump had one of those housing crisis tycoons in his cabinet as Treasury Secretary. He had more billionaires and multimillionaires in his cabinet than any other president in history. Trump gave away billions to corporations with massive tax cuts that caused the deficit to explode to record levels. Crying chicken little over the debt and deficit has been a favourite conservative hobby horse for decades but you didn’t hear a peep during the Trump era as it mushroomed year after year due to corporate giveaways. Corporations and Wall Street loved Trump. Like all Republicans and most Democrats, he was a servant to their cause. But as he has become increasingly erratic and unstable there were better options for them, and since he lost the election he is of no further use to them. -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Apl your nonsense post tells me is that you know as little about the stock market as you do about anything else. You claim Trump made Wall Street billions but Wall St is against him because.......why? Your blah blah GameStop doesn’t have much to do with Trump or anything else either. -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Remind me how you feel about liberal initiatives on raising the minimum wage, mandatory paid sick days, etc? Pretty sure the right is the party of Cheap Labour. -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
That’s Hilarious. But somehow in your muddled mind Trump still gets credit for the stock market? Right ? Also The Republican party and Trump in particular are ideologically opposed to regulation of corporations in general, and in particular minimum wage laws, pollution laws, worker safety laws , consumer safety laws, corporate campaign donation laws, corporate taxes of any kind, etc ad nauseum. Literally every working hour of every Republican politician is and has been dedicated to this eternal quest to enrich corporate masters and privatize all public services for corporate profit Meanwhile the “left” supports all of those regulations and generally opposes privatizing public services for corporate profits. But in the makes-no-sense Trumptard upside-down world Democrats are “corporatist” while Republicans are not. Just because Trump has a few personal petty grudges and vendettas against certain specific corporate leaders who are more successful than him, that doesn’t make him anti-corporate. -
The Trump Second Impeachment Thread
BeaverFever replied to godzilla's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
'Forever Stained': Wall Street Journal Delivers Devastating Verdict On Donald Trump The newspaper's conservative editorial board urged Republicans to remember one thing about the former president. Former President Donald Trump “won’t live down his disgraceful conduct,” the Wall Street Journaldeclared in a damning editorial on Thursday. Trump’s legacy “will be forever stained” by the deadly violence that rocked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 and “by his betrayal of his supporters in refusing to tell them the truth” about his 2020 election loss in the weeks leading up to the insurrection, said the newspaper’s conservative editorial board. And “whatever the result” of the ongoing Senate impeachment trial for inciting the riot, “Republicans should remember the betrayal if Mr. Trump decides to run again in 2024,” the editorial urged. The editorial recalled some of Trump’s election fraud rhetoric in the run-up to the vote and beyond. It suggested it was “difficult to think” Trump “ever envisioned what followed.” “But talk about playing with fire,” the board added, noting how Trump for hours refused to attempt to defuse the violence, after saying he’d walk to the Capitol with his supporters, but instead watched the chaotic scenes on television at the White House. There was “no defense” for his conduct “on Jan. 6 and before.” Read the full Wall Street Journal editorial here. ? https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/wall-street-journal-editorial-board-donald-trump-impeachment-riot_n_60264ad1c5b6741597e12730
