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Yes I posted this on another thread m. He was charged by Democrat prosecutors under a Democrat governor. Just goes to show that unlike MAGAs, these officials believe the law applies to everyone even rich and powerful democrats Republicans protect and pardon their party’s criminals but not everyone operates that way.

The right wing kooks have no respect for the rule of law. They think if you flagrantly violate the law for a right wing cause whether it’s to steal private medical info or steal elections, you should be above the law.

Putin may have intellect but he has no virtue. Trump has neither intellect or virtue Your claim is that Putin’s open economic and military alliance China, Iran, North Korea and Hamas including selling Russia’s top fighter jet to Iran is because they’re enemies . That’s hilarious. That’s what you normally do with your enemies, right? Help them become even more rich and powerful and give them your most advanced weapons right? With enemies like that who needs friends? Meanwhile I will remind you that when the US negotiated the release of American prisoners in exchange for US unfreezing some humanitarian aid, you screamed Biden was funding the west’s enemies and suggested that it was evidence that he was behind the Oct 7 attacks. But when Putin is ACTUALLY funding and arming Iran and openly supporting Hamas for no other purpose than to antagonize the west, suddenly you’re A-ok with it and think it’s great diplomacy What a joke.

OMG YOU ARE Hilarious! Do you really believe your own ridiculous made-up nonsense????

Trump the China slut Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease Donald Trump maintained a stake in Trump Tower when he became president, and with it, a financial connection to the Chinese government. Dan AlexanderOct 23, 2020, President Donald Trump, who declared “I don’t make money from China” in Thursday night’s presidential debate, has in fact collected millions of dollars from government-owned entities in China since he took office. Forbes estimates that at least $5.4 million has flowed into the president’s business from a lease agreement involving a state-owned bank in Trump Tower. The Industrial and Commercial Bank of China signed a lease for space in 2008, years before the president took office, paying about $1.9 million in annual rent. Trump is well-aware of the deal. “I’ll show you the Industrial Bank of China,” he told three Forbes journalists touring Trump Tower in 2015. “I have the best tenants in the world in this building.” Trump moved from the skyscraper to the White House in 2017, but he held onto ownership of the retail and office space in the building, through his 100% interest in an entity called Trump Tower Commercial LLC. That put him in an unusual position, given that government-owned entities in China hold at least 70% of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. Suddenly, a routine real estate deal became a conduit for a foreign superpower to pay the president of the United States. …. https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-china-paid-trump-at-least-54-million-since-he-took-office-via-mysterious-trump-tower-lease/ China Paid Trump Millions In Rent. Then He Left The White House Dan AlexanderApr 10, 2023, During the four years that Donald Trump occupied the White House, the state-owned Industrial and Commercial Bank of China paid him an estimated $7 million to rent space in Trump Tower. Despite the extraordinary circumstances of the deal—involving the government of China, the president of the United States, and millions of dollars—the Trump family portrayed the agreement as a standard business transaction. Previously unreported documents call that characterization into question. Lending records show that that the Chinese bank abandoned Trump Tower around the time Trump left the White House. The bank’s departure seemed to come suddenly, in the first half of 2021 and less than two years after the bank exercised what Eric Trump, the former president’s son, described as a five-year extension. It’s hard to consider either of those developments—the lease extension or the sudden departure—without wondering whether China was trying to curry favor. https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2023/04/10/china-paid-trump-millions-in-rent-then-he-left-the-white-house/ Donald Trump called Chinese leader Xi Jinping a 'brilliant man' and said there is no one in Hollywood with the good looks or brains to play him in a movie Former President Donald Trump gushed about Chinese leader Xi Jinping in an interview on Fox News, calling him a "brilliant man" and praising his good looks. During a sit-down interview on Tuesday night, Fox News host Tucker Carlson asked Trump how smart he thinks Xi is. Trump replied: "Top of the line." "President Xi is a brilliant man. If you went all over Hollywood to look for somebody to play the role of President Xi, you couldn't find it. There's nobody like that. The look, the brain, the whole thing," said Trump. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-calls-xi-jinping-brilliant-hollywood-good-looks-brains-2023-4?amp

FACT: Russia China North Korea and Iran are all allies and by extension so are Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah. They all support each other economically and militarily. All of them are anti-woke. If you are supporting one of them you are supporting all of them. You’re such a dumb uneducated china slut you don’t even know how much of a dumb uneducated china slut you are.

Hunter Biden isn’t a presidential candidate.

As Politico accurately described: With Trump in office, Putin was already getting what he wanted. The election changed all that. Consider where Trump and Biden stand on three key issue areas the Kremlin cares deeply about: NATO, political leadership in Ukraine and undermining democracy. Under Trump, there was little daylight between Russia and the United States on these issues. Even as Trump’s vocal criticisms may have inadvertently strengthened the alliance, Trump worked to diminish the influence of NATO, reportedly planning to withdraw from it in his second term. As a candidate, Trump had even remarked that, “Maybe NATO will dissolve, and that’s OK, that’s not the worst thing in the world.” Trump also broke with longstanding bipartisan support of Ukraine. During the Trump administration’s first year, Volodymyr Zelenskyy was still a showman whose comedy troupe performed patriotic musical numbers with lyrics like “There’s fog over Brussels and frost in Washington” and used a MeToo leitmotifcomparing Ukraine’s treatment by Russia and the West to a sexual assault. When Zelenskyy beat an incumbent president in a landslide, Trump actually withheld military aid to Ukraine, sending personal emissaries to Kyiv to try to pressure and undermine Zelenskyy in the eyes of Ukrainians by asking him to “do us a favor, though.” And both while in office and since leaving it, Trump worked tirelessly to cast doubt on the legitimacy of American elections, going to great yet unsuccessful lengths to find evidence of fraud in the 2020 presidential contest. Trump makes assertions about American elections that echo the Kremlin’s, even reciting a trope about voting by “dead souls” that comes from 19th century Russian literature. At rallies Trump repeats the same claims he made the day of the January 6 attack on the Capitol: “You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.” The truth is that during his administration, Trump’s policy alignment with Putin advanced the aims of Russia’s political elites, who could imagine that the United States was on their side. Their comfort with Trump was evident from the start; Americans may remember that Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was warmly received in the White House and photographed in the Oval Office, while Russian parliament members toasted Trump’s electoral victory in 2016. This comfort evaporated with the election of Biden. And for good reason: from the start, the Biden administration has been at odds with Putin on the issues Putin needs to care about to preserve his own rule. After Biden’s election, Russian political elites once again articulated profound, existential anxieties about a renewed United States projecting its power abroad. State television in Russia emphasized the Kremlin will not allow American influence in Ukraine, “regardless of the cost to us, and regardless of the cost to those responsible for it.” The Biden White House has taken positions opposite those of the Trump administration on NATO. Biden has insisted on principles of state sovereignty, reaffirming and rebuilding the United States’ trans-Atlantic relationships, including strengthening NATO. Biden took meaningful steps to support Ukraine in defending itself. Far from undermining Ukraine’s democratically elected government, the Biden administration has tried to create roadblocks for the Kremlin by getting inside Putin’s decision cycle, declassifying and broadcasting intelligence about Russia’s plans to attack Ukraine. Biden exhausted diplomatic channels trying to come to a peaceful resolution and worked with allies to prepare a sanctions package in advance of a Russian invasion. And Biden has worked to protect democracy. Unlike Trump, rather than questioning the integrity of contests his party lost, Biden has spoken forcefully about the close legal scrutiny and fairness of all the 2020 elections. And he has supported congressional efforts to protect the franchise in the United States. In Trump, Putin had a fellow-traveler. Far from ensuring world peace, the Trump years instead offered Putin a useful pause he utilized to further military readiness and prime the Russian population for a hot war. Earlier this month, the Russian state adopted new standards for mass graves — not because of the coronavirus pandemic in Russia, but for situations that involve “urban destruction.” …Far from deterring Putin, Trump did the opposite. Thanks to Trump, Putin was able to take advantage of a period of apparent detente during which Trump actually pursued Putin’s own policies of weakening NATO and democracy and destabilizing the West — leaving Putin free to prepare his war against the free people of Ukraine and their democratically elected government. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/02/putin-invade-ukraine-trump-00012897

China is Russia’s ally you dumbass. Along with North Korea, where Putin just visited That makes you the China slut.

Pay attention MAGAs George Norcross, one of the richest and most powerful multimillionaire businessmen in New Jersey Yet despite being a major Democrat party power broker, a Democrat Attorney General under a Democrat governor still indicted him when they believed he broke the law. Nobody is above the law, not even your own leaders, something you will never hear in MAGA-land, where the law is nothing more than just another weapon you wield against your enemies. That’s why they find it inconceivable that Biden is simply going to accept his son’s verdict and not pardon him or work out some secret deal

The Vikings crack was a joke which is why I followed it with “seriously though” But the Roman army had been “barbarianized” long before the appearance of the Goths, from at least early 3rd century AD. This was due to the army’s increasing use of germanic speaking barbarians (individuals and entire war bandstands) especially but not exclusively Franks, as Mercenaries, proxy forces and eventually recruits to the army proper. The Roman Army from this era onwards bears little resemblance to the earlier legions that are more commonly depicted and Romans’ outsourcing of the military to foreigners is one of the precursors of the empire’s downfall. The only Roman citizens who severed in the army at this point were those at the very bottom of society with nowhere else to go. The barbarianized army included axes and chain mail and a more open melee style of fighting as opposed to tight formations of previous eras. Soldiers in the army spoke theirs own language that was practically a creole of Latin and German. Second, Goths were not a singular ethnicity but a mix of peoples displaced westward from modern Ukraine by the advancing Mongols although he core group was germani As they moved closer to Romes borders the like picked up groups from czech/Romania and after entering Rome “goths” also included Romans at the bottom of society such as military deserters, runaway slaves, etc The Romans were not Greeks, period. Latin is not derived from Greek. The Romans were descended from a people known to historians today as the Latins, one of many groups of Italic peoples who inhabited the central “leg” part of Italian boot. Like other Italics they were originally sheep herding people who were nomadic or semi-nomadic and likely migrated to Italy centuries before Rome, possibly late bronze/early iron age from somewhere east or northeast. Nobody knows where of if they came by land or boat but some have suggested modern day Croatia or north such as the Danube region. Italic languages share a distant ancestor with Celtic languages who are also believed to have originated in that region Greeks only settled the southernmost parts of Italy: Siciliy, Calabria, basically not much more than the “toe” “sole” and and “heel” of the italian boot and the “ball” it’s kicking. Now to the north of the Italics at the very top of there Italian boot was a mysterious advanced civilization known as the Etruscans, from whom modern day Tuscany gets its name amd it had been there centuries before Rome was founded. The origins of the Etruscans are unknown and hotly debated. Their writings are largely undeciphered but have been found an island off the coast of Anatolia leading some to suggest an eastern Mediterranean or Anatolian origin. Put a pin that thought because it will be relevant in a moment: The tl;dr is that Rome was stopover point for trade between the Greek city states in the far south of Italy and the Etruscans in the far north In between an uncivilized pastoral group of Italic peoples including the Latins, some of whom who had a small settlement at the mouth of the Tiber that was convenient stopover point midway between these two great civilizations. Influenced by both amd eventually falling under Etruscan rule, the Romans became “civilized” Only Later, much later, they began to copy Greek religions and many cultural aspects Lending credibility to this is the fact yhst there is a school of thought that the Etruscans originated in Anatolia (modern day Turkey) and only settled in Western Europe in the late bronze age or soon thereafter. The Romans’ own creation myth, (written by ancient Romans centuries after Rome was created of course) borrows from the Greek tale of the Iliad and claims that during the Trojan war (which is likely to have happened in the late Bronze age and Troy being located in Anatolia), one of the Trojan army’ greatest heroes mentioned in the story managed to flee with a large group of survivors as the Greeks were taking the city and they somehow wound up on Italy’s west coast, intermarrying with a specific subset of Latins and it was these special “Trojan-infused Latins” who founded Rome. It’s always fascinated me that the Romans would choose to claim “loser enemies” of the great greek heroes as their ancestors but to me that just suggests some acknowledgment of Etruscan influence and an awareness of Anatolian origins of the Etruscans. Etruscan Anyway Rome was ruled by Etruscan kings for a long period before overthrowing them and becoming a republic. For much of its early day rome was a backwater port town with a small population that became a magnet for fugitives, refugees, migrants deserters etc from both the Greek and Etruscan city states and possibly beyond. If you have interest I suggest the creatively named History of Rome podcast by Mike Duncan which is also entertaining to listen to. Sudenote: Greeks were bearded, which Romans frowned upon during the republic and early empire. In the second century AD, Hadrian became the first bearded emperor which was controversial on its own. He was also one of the first emperors who had been mentored under a strict Greek “socratic” style, which probably also included the infamous Greek tutor/pupil pederastic relationship as Hadrian’s own long-term pederastic relationship with his much younger male lover was also a major controversy (the romans didn’t have a problem with homosexuality or even pederasty but you weren’t supposed to publicly flaunt it and you were still expected to have a wife and father children). But I digress.

They were not displaced Greeks they simply appropriated Greek culture as they had nothing comparable of their own

I blame the Vikings Serious though the history of warfare is mostly a history of men with long hair fighting hand-to-hand…often in sandals or even barefoot no less. In addition special forces have often distinguished themselves with longer hair and beards that would not be permitted in regular service (also certain specific trades like assault pioneers and navy were always permitted to have beards). So from a performance perspective I wasn’t concerned That said it did seem to be getting out of hand, I saw soldiers with ugly biker style zz top beards and others who didn’t so much appear “bearded” as simply sloppy and un-groomed. So it’s probably good to bring some structure and consistency back, we don’t need to return to the days of the “high and tight” and 24/7 clean-shaven tjough

How DARE you insult the MAGAs’ messiah on his birthday! Don’t you know today is a sacred religious holiday for them?

Absolutely true. So now you’re just lying about what I said in to your absurd logic that if someone doesn’t agree to whatever made-up criminal accusations you want to invent then it means they’re saying he’s completely innocent of everything including what he’s been convicted of. Shameful tactic. You’re asking who the prosecutor was? David Weiss, a Trump-appointed Republican Are you for real? People get convicted on felony charges for fraudulent bookkeeping ALL THE TIME. It’s the probably the most common white collar crime. Seriously give your head a shake Well he won’t get the death penalty or life in prison so that pretty much guarantees that Republicans will scream conspiracy. n matter what. He k even if he did, they’d still scream conspiracy. No you’re just parroting Republican propaganda. Look I will repeat the key word for you: YOU….YOU….YOU don’t know what he has done or not done or what any evidence for these claims might be. Since none of these alleged additional “crimes” have resulted in charges how do YOU happen to know about them? Similar to your constant inability to tel the difference between facts and your personal opinions you also don’t seem able to differentiate between what you actually know and what other biased sources have told you. Get it? No what you describe is the MAGA tactic of dismissing anything they don’t want to believe and you follow it to a tee even if you don’t want to identify as a MAGA I am a strong and effective thinker but if you don’t want to be called MAGA don’t allege conspiracies and assert imaginary accusations based on imaginary evidence with circular logic Claiming without evidence that certain heinous crimes occurred and then that lack of charges, convictions, and evidence for those crimes proves there’s a conspiracy is typical MAGA. Also claiming that the word of hyper-partisan operatives such as Dinesh D’Souza, Tucker Carlson etc constitutes “evidence” is also typical MAGA. If you don’t want to be called a MAGA them stop arguing like one.

Sure if he was caught in a drug sting and then they happened to discover the gun, but that’s not what happened was it? You can’t charge someone for drug possession because they had drugs in the past, you have to actually catch them with drugs in their possession. Don’t you know that? That’s what your ridiculous argument amounts to. *Don’t be silly. Not ONE person on this thread has said Hunter was innocent or a saint However law enforcement and a Trump-appointed prosecutor did not just conveniently happen to stumble across Hunter Biden’s misdeeds. Trump allies went looking for dirt on the Bidens. Perhaps Hunter’s escapades were already widely known in certain circles so they knew where to look from the start but the point is Hunter’s apparent crimes were discovered because Republican officials were actively hunting for a Biden. A jury has found him guilty of the gun charges and a jury will decide if he’s guilty of the tax charges. Liberals are able to say that with maturity and don’t need to scream made-up conspiracies and bogus claims of people being framed the way conservatives do whenever they hear something they don’t like and are doing now about Hunter’s conviction. The fact is you have no idea what he has or hasn’t done and your claims of secret evidence that has been suppressed is just more made-up MAGA conspiracy nonsense

They can strike a committee to investigate whatever they want. Take a civics course

No that’s just innuendo from a right wing newspaper. The actual investigation conducted by Republicans for Republicans found no evidence of illegality in the laptop.

It’s uncommon because this is typically an add-on charge when authorities take down gun smugglers, drug traffickers, gang members etc It’s absurd MAGA logic to assume that the fact Hunter wasn’t charged with crimes like that proves that he must be guilty of them. The reality is that Trump loyalists put the Biden family under a microscope to find SOMETHING to charge SOMEBODY with, given all the Trump acolytes who have been convicted and the many investigations into Trump’s own misdeeds. Hunter’s taxes and his gun application are all they could come up with. So that’s what he’s been charged with.

What a ridiculous thing for you to say. The whole reason people plead guilty is to get a lighter sentence. It’s not a secret backroom deal it’s a public deal between the defence and the prosecution. Look at all the Trump associates and Jan 6 insurrectionists who have pleaded guilty to crimes. The Democrat judge is the one who quashed the plea deal being worked out between Hunter’s defence team and the Trump-appointed prosecutor who brought the charges. I think the only gullible people are people like you who believe in conspiracies woth no evidence. If he pleads guilty for a lighter sentence, it’s rigged. If he pleads not guilty and is acquitted it’s rigged. If he pleads not guilty and is convicted it’s still somehow secretly rigged they’re just trying to make it look like it’s not rigged. So to recap you’re going to admit you’re wrong if BOTH of the following happen: - He is sentenced to at least 2 years in prison, AND -He serves the entire 2+ year sentence behind bars As you likely well know first time non-violent offenders rarely serve the entire prison sentence behind bars so I think you’re deliberately setting an artificially high bar so you can scream conspiracy And the 2 year sentence which you seem to have just pulled out of your ass is also unreasonably high once again so you scream conspiracy. As I noted earlier in this thread, the median sentence for this crime is 15 months and those most similar to Hunter (no prior convictions, etc) have received a range of 10-16 months, with 30% getting no jail time at all.

A Republican House committee said the laptop has no evidence of illegality. That’s the word of Republicans. Trump has a whole legion of former associates alleging misdeeds, impropriety, incompetence and general unfitness for office, one of whom testified at his trial and many of whom were his most senior White House officials. You write them all off with baseless shrieking of “conspiracy!!!”

Pick one. Trump has thousands of documented lies and baseless conspiracies and smears against politicians, including fellow Republicans, media personalities, lies about his own personal success and competence, lies about his record as president and so on. THE BIG LIE is of course the most obvious of them and really being an entire constellation of lies all on its own. The right also said the laptop contained child pornography and evidence of multiple crimes, which it did not.

I don’t have a dog in the gender identity fight but I’ll point out that ACPeds is not the professional body of paediatricians, it is a conservative anti-LGBTQ group founded in 2002, The group’s name is meant to give it the appearance of impartiality when in fact it is not. The SPLC has designated as a “hate group”.

MAGA’s Shocking New Lie About Hunter Biden Verdict Is Deeply Revealing Even the presidential son’s conviction is proof of a vast conspiracy against Donald Trump. It’s all about laying a pretext for Trump to go after Biden and Democrats. …It’s worth dwelling on how convoluted the new MAGA claim truly is. First, recall that the special counsel who secured Hunter Biden’s conviction, David Weiss, was originally appointed as a U.S. attorney by Trump. Did he deliberately handle his prosecutorial task skillfully in order to serve this sinister end of making the justice system appear balanced, thus secretly doing Biden’s 11-dimensional-chess bidding? What’s more, remember that the right exploded with fury last spring when prosecutors originally reached a plea deal with Hunter Biden (which subsequently fell apart), seeing the impulse to spare him a trial as another sign of a pro-Biden conspiracy. On top of that, during Hunter Biden’s trial, right-wing media figures relentlessly chargedthat Biden family members, including the president, were secretly trying to influence the jury and tamper with witnesses—more evidence of dark and dastardly Biden family machinations, this time geared toward getting Hunter Biden off. Now that the thing the MAGA right warned against (Hunter skating free) did not happen, it too has magically been repurposed into the same Biden-orchestrated conspiracy. Finally, recall that the MAGA right’s primary purpose in focusing so relentlessly on Hunter Biden has been to gin up a case for impeaching and prosecuting his father, mostly around a tortured series of claims about the Bidens’ foreign dealings. Why haven’t either of these things happened? Well, House Republicans failed to find any basis for impeachment after months of trying. Despite all that effort, they still haven’t found any grounds for criminal referrals about President Biden to the Justice Department (they have referredtheir claims about Hunter Biden). Meanwhile, another special counsel, Robert Hur, did not recommend charging the president with criminal mishandling of classified documents because he couldn’t find evidence of it. Hur, too, was originally appointed U.S. attorney by…President Trump. For the MAGA right, the problem here can’t possibly be that President Biden didn’t actually commit any crimes. It can only be that the Justice Department is too corrupted to prosecute them, and that House GOP leaders are too weak-kneed and feckless (another bizarre MAGA claim) to ferret them out themselves. Bizarrely, after all that, now that Hunter Biden actually has been found guilty of crimes, that also cannot possibly mean the justice system is operating as it should, because that would be exonerating to the president and affirm his claims that he is keeping his hands off the department. The enormous contortions required to portray the justice system as rigged at every turn show yet again that pretty much everything the MAGA right is saying about these matters is about laying a pretext for Trump, once back in office, to launch prosecutions of Biden and Democrats without cause, under the guise of tit-for-tat payback for something that wasn’t actually done to Trump and his followers. As I’ve argued, Trump and his MAGA allies relentlessly claim that he will seek “revenge” and exact “retribution” with such prosecutions, to reverse-engineer the deceptive impression that Trump was the victim of what he is threatening, i.e. prosecutions without a legitimate basis. Additionally, MAGA Republicans have constantly claimed that law enforcement has relentlessly targeted ordinary conservative parents (which is a lie) and that the prosecutions of January 6 rioters are illegitimate (they are absolutely in keeping with the rule of law). The sum total of all this monumental deception is that Trump and his followers are being massively victimized by our justice system, and that only carrying out mass prosecutions against the opposition will set that right. That the president’s son was found guilty by a jury of his peers who evaluated actual evidence presented by prosecutors—just as happened to Trump in his hush money trial—is kryptonite to this sleazy scam. Nothing is more devastating to the MAGA worldview than the idea that the justice system is actually functioning fairly. https://newrepublic.com/article/182603/hunter-biden-verdict-guilty-trump

Again you prove you have nothing to say but lame insults and you’re easily fooled by Kremlin propaganda and fake news. You’ve never been right about anything , you’re just a lonely hate-filled internet troll desperately waiting for your brown shirt to arrive in the mail.