Infidel Dog
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You'll see Laura's point played out most clear and relevant to the topic here when at 5:35 of the video CNN is interviewing, what I think is, the Minneapolis councilwoman organizing the move to dismantle the police. CNN asks her if she understands how some people might be "uncomfortable" if say a home invader broke into their house and there was no one to call. The white Congressman answers that anybody daring to worry about such trivia needs to reassess their white privilege. The new, new normal is where you're not allowed to question the new orthodoxy and if you do you have a problem that needs fixing and there are people out there willing to fix it for you.
OK, I added that last bit, but it needed to be in there, I think.
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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:
The 'old normal' being working without the trust of black Americans and not caring... ok then...
Having absolutely nothing to do with the video you didn't watch but would like us to believe you did, but OK then.
Laura started by reminding her viewers that at the beginning of the lockdown she told them how she thought the Democrats would keep the economy shut down as long as possible then foist a new normal on them.
She showed how that appeared to be happening then she goes on to say that's now out the window. Now there's a new, new normal. She considers the riots and says "so much for social distancing."
Under this new, new normal you have no right to an opinion that conflicts with or calls into question any aspect of the Progressive campaign to destabilize America through bullying and violence.
Here ya go Mike. Try watching it this time. Might help with the whole not knowing what it's actually about problem.
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But Tucker says it even better. Democrat seeming support for the "defund the police" movement isn't really about defunding the police it's about replacing the current model with a more Democrat controlled model. It's a power grab. That's what's really coming. He's comparing it with how they took control of the military during the Obama years. See, this kind of truth-telling is why the left hates Fox News.
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Pressure to defund or dismantle the police is just a symptom of the disease. It's part of what Laura Ingraham was calling "the new, new normal" last night.
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Sounds like Minneapolis is going to jump aboard with your "Baltimore Syndrome." How far will it spread after that? Who knows. The "Progressive" road to utopia is all about incremental small victories though. It's like South Park's Underpants Gnome strategy except it's "First, degrade and destroy Western society, then...UTOPIA."
Quote(CNN) — Nine members of the Minneapolis City Council on Sunday announced they intend to defund and dismantle the city’s police department following the police killing of George Floyd.
Council President Lisa Bender told CNN that with the nine votes the city council members would have a veto-proof majority of the council’s 13 members.
Pressed for details on what the dismantling might look like, Bender told CNN police funding would be shifted to other needs, and the city council would discuss how to replace the current police department.
“The idea of having no police department is certainly not in the short term,” Bender said.
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14 hours ago, Rue said:
What does brain training mean?
I can explain it to you but you won't listen so I'm not sure why I should bother.
You seem to just assume you have a superior understanding of what you believe others believe so you just ignore them and zip off in your mind to Rueville for further instructions.
I'll give you an example. Somebody mentioned Cultural Marxism. I posted an old video of an ex-KGB agent explaining Soviet style societal degradation techniques that are in the wild of western society even now.
You got on your soap box and rather than try to understand concepts you obviously don't, you lectured us about how we were simply talking "Marxist indoctrination." If you had understood you would know cultural Marxism is not real Marxism it's almost a rejection of it.
But you're not interested in learning something you don't know. You're only interested in conforming with what I'll call "the Progressive Agenda" and "brain training" others into conforming along with you. The problem is you don't know what I'm talking about. However if you follow your usual MO you're going to assume you are the expert because you yourself are "brain trained" to believe you have the superior understanding of what I believe.
You don't though so I don't know how I can talk to you. Tell you what though. If you're ever interested in learning what I and others are actually talking about I'll post you a video that explains it:
(Watch for the term "Passive Regressive." It refers to something you, in particular, should know about.)
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1 hour ago, Rue said:
You just proved my point yet again. You engage in rigid, simplistic all or nothing stereotyping. Its what people do when they can not handle nuance. Use the thesaurus for the word nuance.
He simplistically stereotyped...
I'm noticing anybody who disagrees with you is simplistically something. Allows you to strut about bloviating with your nose in the air pretending you didn't hear the points.
Whatever, I guess.
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2 hours ago, Rue said:
To answer your question I have nothing for you. That would be illogical. You have already indicated you are not interested.
In brain-training from a pseudo-intellectual? Yeah, no thanks.
But you like all these psych terms so much I imagine you're familiar with that one, 'projection.' Now there's another one of the sort of I was talking about. If you look for it you can find exceptions where it would apply here or there to somebody on the right, but as a guy who talks to a lot of Progressives I have to tell you, they don't seem to be able to go a paragraph without blowing out a good example of projection. They pretty much own it.
You, for example, need a mirror. Figuratively speaking, of course.
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OK, I'm going to try one more time to post a new topic on a news story. Let's see what happens.
The BBC is saying this, and I think it's worth knowing about as its own issue. It has offshoots of interest.:
QuoteGeorge Floyd death: China takes a victory lap over US protests
By Zhaoyin FengBBC Chinese Service, Washington-
The US mass protests are raising eyebrows around the world, but China is watching with particular interest.
As anti-racism protests sweep across the US, Beijing has seized upon them to hit back at Washington for supporting last year's Hong Kong pro-democracy demonstrations.
Chinese state media have given extensive coverage to the protests, highlighting the chaotic scenes and alleged police brutality in America to claim that China enjoys greater social stability.
Speaking to an international audience, Chinese diplomats are attempting to portray Beijing as a responsible global leader, standing in solidarity with other countries in condemning the racial disparity and injustice in the US.
'A beautiful sight'
China's state news agency Xinhua described the US civil unrest as "Pelosi's beautiful landscape" - a reference to US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's comment last summer that the Hong Kong protests were "a beautiful sight to behold".
State media Global Times' chief editor Hu Xijin wrote that American politicians now can "enjoy this sight from their own windows".
Beijing has long condemned American politicians, including Ms Pelosi, for "glorifying violence" coming from the Hong Kong demonstrators, who are categorised by China as "rioters showing signs of terrorism".
Protests paralysed Hong Kong for most of last year, prompting Beijing to impose a new national security law in the territory in May, only two weeks ahead of the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square crackdown.
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21 hours ago, Rue said:
The phenomena you discuss is not leftist or for that matter rightist political ideology its called contagion theory or crowd frenzy or mob or herd mentality.
You are choosing to use it now in political context to suggest its a leftist belief. Of course its not its no more a leftist belief than it is a rightist belief. Any humans in a mob can act this way.
Contagion theory would explain that a larger a group becomes the more it has a "hypnotic influence" on those in the group. Chemicals in the brain are activated lowering inhibition. The effect of a crowd on your brain is similar to alcohol. It releases drugs that paralyze the frontal lobe lowering your inhibitions.
Do you have a nifty little neologism for the progressive left's tendency to come up with a new label or redefine an old one when some phenomena becomes inconvenient to them?
There's a difference between an infraction and a policy. When the left counters somebody who dares notice a broad tendency of hypocrisy or outright stupidity and they point at some similar anomalous infraction of the rules of common sense from the other side what they're really saying is pay no attention to what's obvious to your lying eyes.
WestCan Man is correct. The tendency of the left to mob up and attack is immediately apparent. And it's increasing. Yes you can most likely find some case where the right does it too, but it's not the same thing. With this new phenomena of cancel culture, for example, sure you can point at examples of an anti-abortionist group or traditional values organization writing nasty letters objecting to something somebody or some group has done but the broad tendency to dox, and attack individuals en mass who dare to counter progressive orthodoxy is a leftist phenomena. And that's just something people notice. They'll continue to notice it for as long as it continues to exist and no new or redefined term will stop that.
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53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:
Never heard of it. I'll google it lol.
They did the same thing at another board I used to post at but with that one the guy had something set up where you could post to news stories. Somehow, Google took charge of that end of the postings and you couldn't post there unless you allowed Google's scripts. He might have fixed that though.
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Speaking of going off-topic though, I just discovered something that may or may not be on-topic.
Did you know you can't post here using a browser like Tor? Google doesn't like it. If they can't monitor what you're posting they'll block it. They have that power. Google is run by leftists.
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18 hours ago, Argus said:
"In area after area, what were religious positions have been translated into political positions. One of the reasons why twitter is so horrible is that woke culture has now become a new orthodoxy. And the twitterati enforce it as though they were Dominican inquisitors. And if you actually look at twitter basting, if those people could burn you, in real life, they would. Far from a liberalization of culture, we're enforcing a new orthodoxy. These are new articles of faith."
"I think one of the reasons why we don't find much wokery in France, or Italy is because all of this liberalism we're talking about latches onto the back of English puritanism and non-conformity, that immense self-righteousness, that belief you are the elect, that belief that most of the rest of human beings are deplorable people. You know, it's the Salem witch trials. They've got to be whipped into line because they're fundamentally wicked. The Left believes people with beliefs like mine are not simply wrong but are fundamentally wicked." -- David Starkey
I had to backtrack on this thread to find out what it was actually about. Near as I can figure the one above was the last on-topic post.
I think he has a point. In fact if you look around it's almost like the progressive left is hijacking religion. There are all kinds of treatises online about how Global Warmists are like religious Zealots. I think novelist/Doctor, Michael Crichton had some good ones about that. The Pope is a total Progressive. Religion in general is rejecting traditional values to shift more to social justice warring and less about God and spirituality.
Marx said religion was the "opiate of the masses." The progressive/neo/cultural Marxists of today seem to be about foisting a new drug on the masses.
And if you don't agree you're a heretic. You need to be attacked until you're submitting on your knee.
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1 hour ago, Argus said:
It's a part of the cultural marxism being taught in every university, indoctrinating every young mind, that you must attack your nation's traditions, discredit them, sweep them away.
Ever seen tbhis one?
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I'd never seen the video of Daniel Shaver being assassinated by police. I saw the link in the article above though, so I clicked it.
Remember how they were claiming Michael Brown was begging for his life with his hands up in St. Louis, "Please don't shoot!" Remember that? Then it turned out that was a lie. He was actually rushing the cop hoping to get his gun.
But would you like to see a case where that isn't a lie?
Daniel Shaver actually was on his knees with his hands above his head begging police not to shoot him. Then they did shoot him.
Except Daniel was white, so no race riots like there was in Ferguson for Big Mike the "person of color."
Here's the link to the Daniel Shaver gets shot by police video:
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So Justin was out there at a protest ignoring social distancing guidelines, because apparently it was more important to get in a photo op.
Somebody in the crowd shouted out to him "Go Home Blackface! Go home!"
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The Black and White of Systematic Racism
QuoteIf you’re going to champion a cause, have the good grace or basic intelligence to push one that is not so easily undermined by reality... like “systemic racism.” At last check, we’re more than 50 years removed from “colored-only” anything; television commercials would have us believe that inter-racial couples are the rule today; and, diversity/inclusion is a lucrative industry and that’s on top of affirmative action. In short, there has never been a better time to be black in America. Until a few months ago, there was never a better time to be black and employed in America.
Then came the death of George Floyd, which was universally condemned. That point cannot be repeated often enough. No one supported the officer whose name won’t be mentioned here. In the ensuing outcry over Floyd’s death, however, many more black men were killed, by the people doing the protesting. These further black deaths have largely gone ignored because they cannot be squared with claim of systemic racism -- they cannot be rationalized at all. Forget the concept of “all lives matter;” it’s apparent that not even all black lives matter. Unless a cop is involved and facts don’t matter then, either.
Not only is ‘systemic racism’ grossly inaccurate, so is the claim that law enforcement officers seek out and target black citizens. No one told Tony Timpa that being white carried special privileges when he encountered cops. Or Daniel Shaver. In fact, the Shaver case was so egregious even the Atlantic couldn’t ignore it and to publication’s credit, it also noticed the elephant in the living room:
“The case hasn’t attracted the higher degree of attention from the press, the public, or policing-reform activists, partly because…. the cop and the dead man were both white, rendering the killing less controversial than one possibly animated by racism.”
Less controversial... A cute euphemism for “not politically expedient.’ As for the underlying claim of disparate treatment of minorities by law enforcement, a study from Michigan State published last year reports that the mythology of racist cops does not match the reality. It doesn’t even come close. If anything, black citizens are more likely to be shot by cops who are black, and if there is a causal link, it’s the volume of violent crime that occurs in any jurisdiction. Simply put, more crime usually equals more shootings. And yet, the talking point of ‘systemic racism’ has taken hold like a prairie fire that refuses to be doused by any volume of contrary facts or evidence.
At the same time, a combination of self-flagellation and self-congratulations is emanating from white leftists eager to atone, or give the appearance of atoning, for their lack of melanin while also getting their woke on, as if there is a contest to see who can preen the loudest. It’s what a friend of mine terms “pathological altruism,” the paternalistic conceit of the left that is built on the belief that black people can only advance and succeed when guided by the benevolent hand of progressive America.
This mindset not only ignores the blacks who do just fine without these would-be masters, it parades the helped group as mascots to be forever reminded that their lives are only possible due to the tireless effort of their white benefactors. It is an overlay of weapons-grade condescension atop the stench of rank bigotry. Because what else can it be but bigotry when the pathological altruist essentially says “you’re nothing without me” to the minority individual while claiming “they’re as good as anyone else” to the rest of us.
For an ever-so-brief moment, there was something on which we all agreed: the cops in Minneapolis were in the wrong. Unity, of course, is offensive to many in the political and pundit class, so the cohesion had to be ripped asunder and few things create division as effectively as race. Was that even a factor here? Maybe, but given the number of complaints against this officer, it is plausible that color doesn’t even register with him, that he is a sociopath with a badge and gun, and woe unto the person who falls within his crosshairs. Which speaks to an actual problem, that of far too many law enforcement agencies protecting officers who do not deserve it...
Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/06/the_black_and_white_of_systemic_racism.html#ixzz6ObJZj8I3
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I think if you heard my point you'd have better luck coming up with a relevant reply to it. Here, I'll make it simple.
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Cute little blank verse poem Rue.
Personally though, I prefer this one:
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Here's something that's worth knowing about.
Do you remember how 2 or 3 weeks ago they were blasting the news everywhere about a study that purported to show how hydroxychloroquine wasn't just ineffective, it was dangerous?
The "study" was backed by reputable sources like The Lancet and the New England journal of medicine and the WHO.
Nevertheless there were skeptics of that study.
Some of us heard about the skepticism.
Well guess what? Turns out what we're being called conspiracy theory freaks and deniers were right.
The "Study" was bogus. It was a fraud, a hoax, a scam. A lie.
Turns out the study was co-authored by this guy, Sapan Desai. He's chief executive of this company called Surgisphere. Surgisphere had braintrusts like a science fiction writer and an adult entertainment model fabricating the data out of whole cloth. The data isn't real. It was made up.
And the evidence for all this is so undeniably, incontrovertibly true that even leftist papers considered mainstream like the New York Times and The Guardian are now being forced to admit it.
Surgisphere: governments and WHO changed Covid-19 policy based on suspect data from tiny US company
Two Huge Covid-19 Studies Are Retracted After Scientists Sound Alarms
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1 hour ago, AYanker76 said:
You're willfully ignorant...
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Blacks are more likely to be shot and killed by police, whether armed or unarmed. The data is there, you just refuse to see it.
And you're flat out wrong. But go ahead, prove you're right. Show me the data showing more blacks are shot and killed by police than whites.
Here, I'll save you some time. More white people than black people (in America and I assume that's what you're talking about) are killed in police shootings.
However there are more white people in America than Blacks. You can manipulate the data to show up to several times more black people than whites are shot by police if you factor that in.
However, again, Blacks commit vastly more crime (in particular violent crime) than whites and are therefore vastly more likely as a race to find themselves in a violent confrontation with police.
When it's all figured your simplistic claim is completely wrong. I imagine the same could be done with your other claims but you're going to have to do something even more naive on your part (in thinking you'll get away with it) like double down on your incorrect claims to make me go to the trouble of checking them all out.
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Yeah. That one never gets old.
When they talk about de-funding or dismantling Law Enforcement
in Federal Politics in the United States
Posted · Edited by Infidel Dog
So you were just knowledgeably replying to something you knew nothing about then?
Sure that makes sense.