Yzermandius19

Yeah, it can be also be an overreaction to military adventurism as well. But it's not based on reasoned analysis, that I can tell you. No rational analysis would paint America as the world's evilest nation, that's for sure. America might not be perfect, but that doesn't mean the alternatives are better, being able to point out that America has flaws, is not grounds to want it destroyed.

America Envy is a helluva drug.

But the world hates y'all, those who are in John Otis's Echo Chamber all say so, hehe.

The alternatives are far worse than America, just because they aren't perfect doesn't mean they need to be destroyed. Throwing the baby out with the bath water? Cutting off my nose to spite my face? Bad ideas. The world is far better off with America, than without it. I'm certainly not going to side with the terrorists against it, nor I am going to side with Russia or China against it.

I never said they didn't exist, I said they were fringe minorities. The most likely way America could be "destroyed" is by a nuclear launch on false warning by the Russians, accidental rather than intentional because of hatred for America. Even then America won't be destroyed, but it could easily lose it's hegemony in that scenario, and the world wouldn't welcome it.

9/11 isn't evidence the world wants to destroy America, just some terrorists. Proof that some people hate America enough to try to destroy it, is not proof that most people hate America enough to try to destroy it, or even that a large percentage of people hate America enough to try and destroy it. You're the one in denial. PS - I am a dude, why do you keep calling me ma'am? Misgendering! lulz

It's not that many people, just fringe groups who share those views. You clearly live in an Anti-American echo chamber and confuse the beliefs of that echo chamber with the views of a large portion of the world's population. Stop projecting the views of a fringe minority on the views of most people in the world.

None of the people you quoted are indicative of the general attitude of the world's population, or even any major power. Not sure why you think the world hates America enough to want it destroyed, but they don't. If they did, then they'd be trying to destroy it as we speak, yet only a few fringe groups around the world are trying to destroy America, so clearly the idea is nowhere near as popular as you perceive it to be.

Most white people are Christian, it's not all that surprising that most white supremacists are also Christian, it would be weird if that wasn't the case. /shrugs A person making such statements isn't an indication that they have a hate fueled agenda against Christianity, it's a simple observation.

Anti-muslim rhetoric should be protected free speech. Holocaust denial should be protected free speech. Inciting and promoting hatred should be protected free speech. Canada wouldn't know what free speech is, if it slapped them in the face. Canada is notorious for their hatred of free speech, hate speech laws are the prime example of that.

No I don't. But just because they aren't religious views doesn't mean these views should be banned if enough people find them distasteful. Free speech doesn't only apply to the religious, it applies to far right terrorists too.

If the Democrats want to commit suicide, you can't stop them, they are living in a bubble where they think their anti-Trump witch hunt is actually helping them. The more you try to talk sense to them, the more they will simply dig their heels in, in defiance. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

No major power will be happy with the US gone. Russia needs the US a boogeyman to prop itself up. The Chinese economy is propped up by the American economy. Japan loves the US, and will not welcome them being destroyed. India will not welcome a destabilized China in the wake of America's destruction. The EU will not welcome it, because the Russian will try to fill the "America at the gates!" hole with the EU and China. Xul is completely incorrect in his assessment as to the reaction of these countries. Xul is right about US protection beggars not being happy about it, and he's right about a few countries that America has been to war with relatively recently might like it, but the vast majority of the world will rue the day that America was destroyed. The countries who would like to see America destroyed aren't in a position to destroy America, and the countries that don't want it, aren't going to side with those who would attempt to destroy America. If as much of the world wanted America destroyed as John Otis seems to think, then they would have already tried if they thought they could win and wouldn't pay much of a price for it. The reason that hasn't happened, is because John Otis has vastly overestimated the amount of people who want to see America destroyed, and he vastly overrates their ability to destroy it without paying a price they are unwilling to pay. There is no other explanation, but no matter how many times I try to tell him this, it doesn't get through his thick skull, and he goes back to snorting wishful thinking dust by the truck load. He refuses to think that a giant portion of the world doesn't want to see America destroyed, no matter how obvious it is that this isn't the case.

Democrats and Trump haters totally aren't moving the goalposts from "Trump will be nailed to the wall for Russian Collusion! Mueller is the shit, you can count on him.", to "Mueller colluded with Trump to cover up Russian Collusion! He didn't find what we wanted, that's proof the investigation was never serious." Nope they are completely consistent and not experiencing cognitive dissonance. /lulz

They are wrong. The world's number one power is always has haters, often times for specious reasons, it comes with the territory. In reality, America is the light of civilization, and getting rid of them will hurt the world far more than it would help.

Unless they are white supremacists, then you think it's okay to interfere with their rights even they aren't violating the rights of others.

America makes the rest of the world richer. Why would the world want them destroyed? The rest of the world doesn't want to kill the golden goose.

Yes it is. That's why all the countries that try to determine what is and isn't free speech based on "hate speech" do such a poor job of it. If it was as easy as you claim, then we'd see an example of that in real life, yet we don't, it's a pipe dream.

You know how you don't take on far-right terrorists? By banning or restricting people's free speech and gun rights, that's just counter-productive, plays right into the hands of the terrorists.

None of the reasons you give for shutting it down are good, you are suggesting restricting people's rights for no good reason. If you don't have a good argument, you certainly don't get to restrict free speech with that argument as justification, the burden of proof is on you to prove why the restrictions are necessary, not on the people who don't want their rights restricted, to prove that they aren't necessary.

Yes, it is.

It doesn't matter if there is no utility to it, it is protected free speech. How offensive or useful certain speech is, does not effect whether it should be protected free speech or not. Loud music and public nudity are not banned because they are too offensive and lack utility, that has nothing to do with it.

It's not just a mere expression of free speech, but it is free speech, and it should not be banned just because people's feelings will be hurt. Free speech is more important than Jews not being subjected to speech they don't like, no matter how justifiable it is that they are offended.

Hate speech is just a word for free speech that liberals don't like. Inciting violence should be illegal, racist slurs should not. The point of free speech is not to protect speech that no one finds offensive, because no one will try to censor it, the point of free speech is to protect speech that some people find offensive, because people will try to censor it, like Zeitgeist here.

Hehe, yeah, free speech haters would think that way, silly them.