Yzermandius19

No it wasn't. The socialists lost most of the primaries to the moderates. AOC is outlier. Democrats would rather the party not go too far to the left, not that you could tell by the crop of Presidential candidates that have announced so far.

It's not sexual assault, he said they wanted him to do it, that's called consent. You never heard about women throwing themselves at famous people before? Do you live under a rock?

Incumbent POTUS almost always take a hit during the mid-terms. Republicans gained seats in the Senate, there was no blue wave, the Republicans exceeded expectations, that's not a knock on Trump. You'll see how well Trump does with swing voters in 2020, the Democrats aren't going to do well with them.

Works like a charm with swing voters too, they recoil for the ridiculous overreaction of Trump haters, driving them right into Trump's arms. The only people it doesn't work like a charm on is Democrat base nitwits who wouldn't change their minds no matter how good of a job Trump does.

Trumpzilla Smash. Whoever wins the 2020 Democrat Nomination, gonna get smashed too.

Agreed. That isn't it's only value, but it's a big one for sure. Communal Purpose FTW.

It is when the opposition reacts in a way that plays to your advantage, and Trump is the master of triggering his opposition to react in ways that help him. He got billions in free media coverage, and over 90% of it is negative, yet it has helped him a whole lot because his haters are driven insane by their reaction that 90% negative media coverage. Works like a charm.

I suspect a lot of theists understand reality enough to know the world wasn't built in 6 days, with a rest day scheduled for day 7. It's a metaphor, most religious folks aren't oblivious to that, you just want to argue against the silliest positions some religious people take, and then project those views onto all religious people, so you have an easy target to take down, without having to consider the value of religion.

All publicity is good publicity. He wants his haters to make fools of themselves, reaching to attack him, don't kid yourself.

SNL's Trump material is lame, not funny at all.

Indeed, and it isn't only the atheists who are understanding reality better, many religious folks do as well, and many atheists don't understand reality better than their religious counterparts. Neither side has a monopoly on understanding reality and neither side has a monopoly on being ignorant of reality.

Strawman of the religious. Many religious folks know that much of the bible is metaphorical, not literal, and written by men, not god himself. They use stories to teach people morals and ethics of the religion, that's the purpose of "the book of lies" as some here like to refer to it. You want to pretend that all religious people believe the silliest beliefs that you know some religious people hold, to demonize the entire group, but that isn't actually the case that they all view the stories in the bible as having literally happened, though a minority of them do.

Others in this thread are though, look at owly here for instance.

Never said you need religion to be moral or ethical. A lot of good people who aren't religious hold similar values to those who are religious anyways, what a strange coincidence, not. You may have learned your morals and ethics from the dinner table, but go back far enough, and those values came from your families religious beliefs at some point in the last several generations. Denying your religious roots of your moral compass is putting your head in the sand.

Indeed. I am aware that religions haven't been perfectly peaceful throughout history, that doesn't make religion inherently negative though. Without religion, people would just come up with other excuses to fight over shit, and they have throughout history. Religion is not uniquely to blame for war, nor is it a particularly egregious offender in that regard.

Yep. Well aware of Catholics and Protestants going to war with each other throughout history. That is not proof that religion is inherently negative. It's not like they wouldn't have found other reasons to fight if they were all atheists. Existence of war committed by religious people is not proof that religion has a bad track record, you have to compare it to the alternatives, and when you do that, religion has a great track record.

A lot of the people hating on religion in this thread are only looking at the negative examples of religion, I look at both, and the ledger says religion isn't an inherently negative concept, quite clearly.

Yep. Existence of crimes committed by religious people is not proof that religion has a bad track record, you have to compare it to the alternatives, and when you do that, religion has a great track record.

No they have great records. Just because they committed some crimes like everyone else, religious or non-religious doesn't mean they a terrible record, you have compare them to other groups, not against a mythical standard that no group is ever going achieve.

They have tons to do with morals and ethics. They did a great job of promoting them and continue to do so. Atheists have done a bad job of promoting them, but that doesn't mean atheists can't be moral or ethical. Just because you can learn morals and ethics elsewhere doesn't mean religion isn't a good source to learn morals and ethics from.

Religion didn't invent morals and ethics, but religion certainly promotes them, and does a damn good job of it too.

We are aware of what's going on, you are the one who doesn't know what is going on, and fronting like you're an expert.

You are the one making the claim, that's your job. Name the Conn legislation, and provide some evidence that it has better than a snowball's chance in hell of happening, because it's a very dubious claim to think Connecticut is going change from their current system of awarding their electors to the person who wins the most votes in the entire state.

Can't wait for the Democrats to start calling Mueller a traitor, for not finding proof that Trump is a traitor, when just a week ago he was Demohack Messiah.

None of those states are going to do it. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug.