Dougie93

Canada is lowly by nature, literally the world's door mat

no, the institutions are still Woke AF, but Canada is beyond saving therein, so that's a wash in Canada, no party is going to confront it

I'm not an economic nationalist, Globalism has been very good to me, I don't vote with the industrial unions, I don't give a fack about the Canadian Auto Workers; give me my Chinese EV tariff free BYD is better than Telsa, BYD has an EV for $70K which is faster than a Lamborghini, Canada is already a culturally Communist country ; so no reason to reject the Chinese anymore, never mind that the Americans are deeply invested in China while forcing Canada to raise tariffs against China therein, stop being patsies already

I'm a Reaganite Neoconservative, so MAGA pays no attention to me, I would actually vote Democrat at this juncture, if they stopped being Woke Progressive lunatics that is when the Democrats realize that DEI, LGBTQ+ & Greta Thunberg is bringing them down, then they might win the elections again, in the meantime, I'll just wait out ; standing by

CPC is Trumpy AF even as a Canadian - American dual citizen, I will vote for the Liberals, not even the MAGA Republican base favours annexing Canada, no bible thumping gun toting pick up driving American wants Commie Canada to join the Union

sure, the Canadian "adults" in the American vassal state resource colony with no identity nor sovereignty of its own, knock yourselves out / shrugs

sure, we'll see, but after decades of inaction, and completely making itself into a American vassal state resource colony, Canada is going to have to prove itself capable of building anything at all, I wouldn't bet on it mind you, quite sure Canada will come crawling back to America to buy the F-35 in the end

nobody cares what Canadians say anymore, since Canada became the land of all talk and no action

I would be embarrassed to be mistaken for a "Canadian" now, as nothing is more pathetic than the Post National State,

I have no quarrel with Canada diversifying its defence purchases, I simply doubt Canada's political will & state capacity to follow through on anything defence related at this juncture

that is none the less a generational project, even for the Europeans, never mind Canada

"Canadian" is a meaningless distinction at this juncture, a Post National State with no core identity is an accurate description

Canada is well known all around the world, for having an absurdly dysfunctional military procurement process, to the point of the functional collapse of Canadian military capability therein.

merely an academic discussion, I'm not in the slightest bit concerned, Canada is all talk and no action, and certainly not willing to pay the premium for a full spectrum military,

it might not be the UK, Italy is also looking to cut special deals with Washington, I doubt Georgia Meloni can be relied upon to defy Trump on behalf of Canada, in terms of Rafale v. Typhoon, many would argue that Rafale is the better fighter, with the more advanced radar and avionics, Rafale is also cheaper to operate with a higher availability rate, not sure what changes Canada would need to make, particularly as that would increase costs considerably, might depend on how many Canada was actually willing to buy, like if Canada is willing to buy a hundred jets, then that's a deal which is too big to walk away from, but Canada would have to put its money where its mouth is, place a firm order, nobody is blowing up their relations with Washington when Canada is only kicking tires

any Eurofighter Consortium member can veto a sale, the UK is too deeply integrated with America to defy Washington, I don't see re-engining the Gripen as realistic, there is no European proxy for F414, Europeans are more realistic about immediate decoupling from America than the Canadian population is, Europe is much more reliant upon America for all the strategic assets America brings to bear, the Europeans realize that they are decades away from replacing that even if they start now,

quite sure Trump will block the sale of Gripen or Typhoon, Gripen by the engine, and Typhoon by pressure applied to the UK government, it's really only the French who are willing to defy Washington, with the ability to do it, so it would have to be Rafale

a British led force of Canadian Militia managed to repulse a three pronged American invasion against the odds, with the First Nations led by Chief Tecumseh as an allied asymmetrical force multiplier, but America managed to defeat a Royal Navy blockade, ensuring American Freedom of Navigation on the high seas, hence how both sides claim victory in the end, Canada being the British Imperial Hegemon at the time, while America was the upstart underdog

the Chinese vastly suppress the actual number killed but I concede that I was combining total Chinese ( 400,000 ) and North Korean ( 520,000 ) killed

nothing is degraded about F-35, it's only a logistics issue in the event of a prolonged American withdrawal of support, which is in fact extremely unlikely, since that would incite F-35 customers to dump the plane all at once, the Liberals are not going to cancel it outright mind you, they are playing it smart, Carney is already angling to extract more concessions out of LockMart in terms of IRB's, LockMart shareholders are going to have to pony up more investment in Canada in return for the 88 CF-35's, already the Military Industrial Complex is being harmed by Trump's overreach ; political kiss of death

Trump has said that America will make a "toned down" version of F-47 for export

the entire Canadian military would be encircled while still on its bases, the troops wouldn't even have a chance to draw ammo before they were surrounded, so again, Canada is claiming that this is a serious threat, but Canada is making no preparations to defend itself therein, nobody know what Trump might do, Trump doesn't even know, so Trump's assurance that he would not use military force can't be trusted, but because Canada is not acting like it is taking Trump seriously, none of the rest of the world is taking it seriously, the UK is literally going to invite Trump to join the Commonwealth, at the personal invitation of the King,

indeed, China lost one million soldiers killed, South Korea & America clearly won the war, while North Korea is worse than useless to China, in fact, North Korea is a threat to China, allied to Russia

Canada's opinion has zero importance on international law, Canada's ambassador to the UN has already stated that America's threats of annexation are illegal, nobody cares apparently,

Canada is afraid, Canada is cowering, in the face of an American reality tv star, might as well just disband the CAF at this point, as Canada is not prepared to fight a real war under any circumstances, not even existential threat doesn't matter, Article V doesn't bind them to fight anyways, the point is escalation dominance ; call Trump's bluff already, this is the way to beat him, to include in the trade war even Republicans are turning on him over these Canada threats, now is the time to go on the attack, press the advantage