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School Boards Promoting Homosexuality?
Zeitgeist replied to Zeitgeist's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
Instinct is critical for survival. We see/hear something that causes discomfort and our fight/flight kicks in. If we seem to be safe in the moment, we can think through our reaction based on further data. We ascertain whether the individual is generally non-threatening and gather more information as needed. Because most of us are busy, we don’t have time to hear people’s life stories and must assess quickly what is worth our time and attention. Sometimes a sentence or two tells quite a bit about a person. We gravitate towards what we like and value. We can tolerate people with very different views and behaviours that clash with our own, but we don’t have to like them. Even if we lie and pretend to embrace what we don’t like verbally, actions speak louder than words, which is why the first question I ask when someone starts extolling the virtues of a member of a particular group is, How many friends from this group do you have?- 479 replies
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I hope he supports the truckers. I consider them heroes. So did you when they risked their lives delivering your goods early in the pandemic. I don’t care if 70% of the country disagrees. It just confirms that Canadian democracy is on the ropes. It certainly doesn’t mean we should make the Conservatives the Liberals 2.0.
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2. No evidence of widespread lower costs for users. Feels like another overspending boondoggle with dubious results, but we probably won’t find out the bad news until after next election. 3. Agreed. 4. Agreed.
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What is extremist about PP? Absolutely nothing. You’re so brainwashed.
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You and Boges basically support the Liberals and say the Conservatives must be Liberals to get elected because the public wants Liberals. Lol. Feels like Canada is permanently screwed.
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I laugh that you and Boges illustrate the problem. I don’t even really consider myself especially conservative yet I see how an ideological outlook has become entrenched in Canada.
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I agree somewhat that that was the 50’s nuclear family model, but it required a father/husband with a good enough income for his wife to stay home. Obviously it’s a good thing that women have more work and role options available to them now, but it’s a bad thing that most families can no longer manage well on a single income. It actually puts a lot of pressure on parents, means that parenting has to be offloaded to third parties, and adds childcare costs. I know the Liberals raised funding of childcare, but it hasn’t worked yet nationally. The cost of living continues to climb and parenting seems to be offloaded more and more to others. Add state notions of how kids should be raised in state-funded programs and it’s arguable that family life is being undermined. I don’t think women are inferior to men. Women and men have different strengths generally and compliment each other. Workplaces that are dominated by one gender tend to feel imbalanced, but each gender generally feels more comfort/interest in different fields, e.g. females in medicine, males in engineering. These are just tendencies, not absolutes.
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This is indicative of a population that has been highly manipulated by state-run media and government fear-mongering. It’s sad because I don’t think many Canadians understand how they’re shooting themselves in the feet by supporting an unaccountable quasi-totalitarian regime that undermines their rights. The country may be past the point of no return. Biden is playing the same game in the US, trying to criminalize any opposition. There’s no outside to the Liberal Party one party system, it seems.
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School Boards Promoting Homosexuality?
Zeitgeist replied to Zeitgeist's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
You’re saying it’s wrong to be human and that nature is wrong. I suggest you read Hariri’s frightening predictions about A.I. He thinks it’s inevitable that we become cyborgs and describes humans as “hackable animals”. He even talks about controlling humans “under the skin.” I remember reading Hariri’s Homo Deus (Man God) well before the pandemic and thinking he was describing a dystopia that undermined humanity but that was hopefully just a threat instead of a looming reality. It’s clear now that his warnings/predictions were spot on. The fact that minds like his are leading global pushes for the reshaping of human behaviour is beyond concerning. That’s the context for our apparent societal embrace of malleable genders and sexual orientations, especially when biology still tells us that there are only two sexes Just because someone feels or wants something doesn’t make it good or advisable. Kids feel a lot of emotions very strongly that come and go with hormonal surges and the desire for care and attention. We must guard against affirming impulses with life changing surgeries that may not turn out to be what meets the person’s longer term needs. I think on homosexuality and even gender identity most people took a “Live and let live” stance because “Who am I to judge?” is generally the default position in a laissez-faire liberal democracy However, tolerance seems to have morphed in a top down way into something much more like promotion or advertisement. Kids are impressionable Flying gay pride flags sends a message that is hard to explain except in terms of sexual behaviour and support of such behaviour. The justification is “inclusivity”, but love/acceptance of the person and support of the behaviour aren’t the same thing I’m sure some parents support such behaviour, but I’m also sure many don’t, and there has been little debate or discussion about whether boards should be flying such symbols and including discussions of different sexual orientations and identities in child education. I oppose such messaging in elementary schools and I also oppose any educators advocating for certain sexual behaviours unless they are in the context of my particular religious world view, which is why it’s best to leave it out of public schools altogether. When in doubt, leave it out. That’s not the same thing as teaching kids about reproductive systems, cycles, ovulation, mentruation, the risk of STD’s, etc., which is an important component of health education for students entering adolescence. There’s a lot of dubious experimentation with nature Technology has made much possible that isn’t healthy or advisable. Education systems should err on the side of caution. Whenever I feel pushed to think a certain way that doesn’t sit right, I know there’s reason for concern.- 479 replies
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Federal Government in a Surplus
Zeitgeist replied to Queenmandy85's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
It’s not that climate isn’t changing; it’s that we don’t know how much human activity impacts it. It’s the butterfly effect in action. There’s simply no clear account of where we are in relation to interglacial cycles, getting warmer or cooler. What we do to mitigate human impacts that would be large enough to have a quantifiable impact (if that’s even measurable) comes at such a great cost that it’s not worth paying. It’s like someone saying that drinking a lot of red wine will protect you from cancer because of the anti-oxidants in red wine. You would need to drink so much red wine that you would die of alcohol poisoning before enjoying the impacts of the anti-oxidents. It’s apple pie to say that fighting climate change is good. Who doesn’t want to prevent catastrophe, even if it’s hard to predict if and when such a catastrophe will occur as a result of human impacts? The issue is that the cure is worse than the disease if the cost of living is set to rise due to choked off fossil fuel energy supply and increased shipping costs due to lower energy supply and added carbon taxes. Adding poverty means less attention to the abstract notion of fighting possible future climate catastrophe because people who are desperate for life’s necessities don’t care about climate change and won’t get the education and develop the technology to fight it, nor will these people have smaller families. Reducing human made climate change, if you believe this is a problem and one we can actually solve, must be cheap to implement and happen without causing economic and political upheaval. -
Conservative Leadership September 10th
Zeitgeist replied to Jack9000's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
I actually appreciate Queenmandy’s optimism. I don’t have it for this country right now. I see too much that’s wrong and not enough signs of hope, so I actually need to hear people extol Canada. I wish I could do it but I couldn’t put on rose coloured glasses after February 2022. -
I know that biology dictates more of our behaviour than you recognize, including a general female instinct to seek a dominant male provider. It’s not a matter of opinion. That’s not to say there aren’t counter examples. There are outliers among both genders. You think these are political statements because you’ve been raised on the idea that biological reality is a social construct. Pure radical feminist nonsense. You don’t even know the sources of your views. Read about the feminism of the Redstockings movement.
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You may want the world to conform to an idea, but biological drive cuts through our intellectual civility straight to our instincts.
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Federal Government in a Surplus
Zeitgeist replied to Queenmandy85's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
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Men and women have different strengths. It’s not a better or worse, but it’s telling that the most popular book among female readers for a long time, 50 Shades, is about a dominant male dominating a submissive female. As Nietzsche said, “Only the man in man can bring out the woman in woman.”
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School Boards Promoting Homosexuality?
Zeitgeist replied to Zeitgeist's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
It’s natural and pretending we aren’t tribal is a lie. What’s important is that we don’t favour our in-group for superficial reasons. Competence is always what’s most important. Of course that takes different forms. Competence in mechanics is different from competence in sales, counselling, etc.- 479 replies
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Conservative Leadership September 10th
Zeitgeist replied to Jack9000's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Well it’s grotesque. I do think these are mostly American ideas sparked by American events like the death of George Floyd that are untypical of Canada, but yes, when government authorities keep reopening old wounds in an attempt to look like saviours, this is the result. I feel sorry for the next generation. -
Conservative Leadership September 10th
Zeitgeist replied to Jack9000's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
I’m afraid that the more radical views that seemed amusing and clearly beyond the pale just 10 years ago have entered our mainstream educational programming, corporate training, and government. Many of the posters on here don’t get it because they’re out of the workforce. I live the dream every day. I’ve attended the anti-Black racism training, said the land acknowledgments demanding reparations, responded to the emails with gender pronoun signatures, and listened to members of the organization one by one proclaim that Canada is a colonial racist country of which we should be ashamed. I’ve received the rainbow posters that are required to be posted, and been made to read chapters from books by self-proclaimed Marxists that say we must understand how racist we are. I’ve never seen such a radical political agenda pervade our organizations and country as much as these past two years, not even close. Hardner thinks it’s still 1995. Dialamah is like my whiny NDP aunt who asks for money all the time and pisses everyone off. The country needs a major correction to the centre, which will be very difficult with so many complaisant and gullible people. -
Conservative Leadership September 10th
Zeitgeist replied to Jack9000's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Every country has its myths, but I’ve always defended Canada’s raison d’être. The problem I have isn’t with my belief in the history or potential of Canada as a nation state, but the apparent attempt by our own political leaders and media to attack it. I’ve been reading about Victorian Britain and it was a brutal world for many. PMs Wellington, Adelaide, Peel, and Disraeli were essentially in a constant battle against the Chartists and Anti-Corn Law free traders to manage the calls for reform and to prevent revolution. The poverty and labour conditions in mines and factories were deplorable, including for women and children. Gradually the right to vote expanded, religious economic bias subsided, work hours were reduced, and something we’d recognize as modern democracy emerged. The 1840s potato famines were horrific for British controlled Ireland. Canada and the US were lands of opportunity. The US was freer until about the 1960’s draft for Vietnam, and of course Canada never had a revolution or civil war resulting in tens of thousands of deaths. Canada made very impressive contributions for its size in both great wars. We also managed to mesh two major cultural groups and religions that had been at war abroad for centuries. The stories of residential schools must be understood in the harsh context of a population desperate for publicly funded education that was universally seen as a social good. We now know that the burial grounds described at residential schools didn’t all contain graves and the ones that did usually resulted from the same plights of disease that faced the wider society, albeit under more adverse conditions. To see our PM constantly throw Canada under the bus, treat half the citizens like second class lesser beings, and compromise our constitutional rights is too much to bear. The greatness is here in Canada but only great leadership can channel it. The population also has to assert our rights and demand that government doesn’t stifle opportunity. Things could be much better here. I hope it’s not too late, but I’m having big doubts. -
School Boards Promoting Homosexuality?
Zeitgeist replied to Zeitgeist's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
The rights tribunal is a far left body that should be dismantled. They only affirm left wing ideas and don’t protect individual rights.- 479 replies
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Conservative Leadership September 10th
Zeitgeist replied to Jack9000's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Until 2022 I still believed there is a distinct and important Canadian way based on our unique and rich cultural context, but Trudeau has blown that up with the Emergencies Act attack on our democracy and his Post-National State embrace of quasi-communist-nihilist Chinese totalitarian capitalism. Where is the greater liberal-democratic Canadian purpose? It’s hard not to flock to American liberty or the strength of British self-determination in this environment. There’s no assertion of Canadian interests and freedom anymore. An unaccountable global agenda is being rammed down our throats at a high cost. In this current context America is both loftier in ideals and less expensive. -
School Boards Promoting Homosexuality?
Zeitgeist replied to Zeitgeist's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
Homosexual acts have been almost universally forbidden or discouraged across cultures for millennia. The cultures that allowed or turned a blind eye to it such as Greece were in decline when they did so. The recent legal approval in western countries is highly experimental and questionable. Just because there are flags and bank commercials promoting or approving it doesn’t change the larger context. Again, it’s not about the person but the behaviour. Skin colour is not a valid comparison.- 479 replies
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School Boards Promoting Homosexuality?
Zeitgeist replied to Zeitgeist's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
I don’t approve homosexual behaviour and never will. Nevertheless, God loves all his children.- 479 replies
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Conservative Leadership September 10th
Zeitgeist replied to Jack9000's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Is Canada about anything more than money now? I want to believe but I don’t see much higher purpose, and on the money front I see silly and unnecessary expenses. -
School Boards Promoting Homosexuality?
Zeitgeist replied to Zeitgeist's topic in Provincial Politics in Canada
Well now you’re talking about universal principles. This is the subject of comparative mythology and Joseph Campbell’s Hero With A Thousand Faces. Dismiss these essential human truths at your peril.- 479 replies
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