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  1. That is the stupidest thing I think I have ever heard from you. quote What is due process? A core principle of the U.S. government is that all people have the right to fair treatment under the law. Due process of law, enshrined in the Fifth and 14th Amendments, requires the government to provide a person with notice and an opportunity to make their case in court before depriving them of life, liberty, or property. Due process protects us from the arbitrary exercise of government power. It is the reason that police and prosecutors must prove that they had probable cause to arrest a person, that the government cannot arbitrarily cut off someone’s public housing or food assistance, and that civil court processes must be followed before the state can terminate a parent’s rights. Are immigrants entitled to due process when facing deportation? Yes. The Fifth and 14th Amendments’ due process clauses protect every person within U.S. borders, regardless of immigration status. The Supreme Court recently reaffirmed this, ruling that immigrants facing deportation under the Alien Enemies Act are entitled to the opportunity to challenge the legality of their detention before removal. The Court cited its ruling in Reno v. Flores, a 1993 case where Justice Antonin Scalia wrote, “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles [immigrants] to due process of law.” This means that a person accused of being in the country without authorization should have the right to a fair trial in immigration court. People should have a chance to see and challenge the evidence against them. This can prevent harmful injustices and the unchecked use of government power to detain, deport, and disappear people—many of whom are seeking safety and may have the right to stay rooted in their community. Has the immigration system ever ensured immigrants due process? Unfortunately, in practice, deprivations of due process have long been routine and have occurred on a massive scale in our immigration legal system—leading to many examples of gross miscarriages of justice. People facing deportation are not entitled to a court-appointed attorney if they cannot afford one. This differs from criminal court, where the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution guarantees all people the right to an attorney whether they can afford one or not. Legal representation is expensive, and far too many people in immigration court face deportation proceedings without an attorney to protect their rights. In fact, an estimated 70 percent of people held in immigration detention on deportation cases opened in the past three years are unrepresented in their proceedings. Because immigration law is notoriously complex, many people who could have established a legal right to remain in the United States with the help of an attorney are instead deported to countries where they face real danger. Legal representation is fundamental to delivering due process. Lawyers serve as a critical check on claims made by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), ensuring that the government is following the rules and accurately interpreting the law. For example, lawyers frequently find that U.S. citizens have been unlawfully detained by ICE or that green card holders may face detention based on ICE’s erroneous application of the law. They identify when someone has legal relief from deportation and help people—including children, people who have mental health conditions, and Indigenous language speakers with limited translators available—present complex claims for the judge to consider. In a new threat to due process, the Trump administration is bypassing immigration courts to deport people without a fair hearing. President Trump’s mass detention and deportation agenda significantly escalates threats to due process by claiming that immigrants are not entitled to due process or a hearing at all. Trump has gone so far as to say that “you can’t have a trial for all of these people,” referring to immigrants facing separation from their families and expulsion to countries where they may face dangerous circumstances. President Trump issued executive orders early in his second term that bypass immigration courts in many instances by expanding expedited removal, a process that allows the Department of Homeland Security to detain and deport someone without a hearing before an immigration judge. Although past administrations also used this policy, the Trump administration has supercharged the harm by expanding who is subjected to it and deploying significant resources to deport people without going through the court system. In mid-March, President Trump invoked the wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to allow his administration to deport people who are accused—oftentimes with little or no evidence—of being associated with the Venezuela-based Tren de Aragua gang without giving them the opportunity to appear before a judge. Hundreds of people, most with no criminal record, have been sent to Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo (CECOT)— a Salvadoran prison with a history of human rights abuses—without the opportunity to defend themselves against the accusations or to prove they have the legal right to remain in the United States. In many cases, the government’s accusations rest on nothing beyond innocuous tattoos honoring family and soccer. Andry Hernandez Romero, an asylum seeker from Venezuela whose tattoos depict crowns over the words “mom” and “dad,” was deported to CECOT with no chance to defend himself in court. Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, a Maryland father with protected legal status, was also wrongfully deported and placed in CECOT. Although the Trump administration has since admitted Abrego Garcia’s deportation was an “administrative error,” it has made no effort to return him to his family. Frustrated by the Supreme Court’s affirmation that immigrants targeted under the Alien Enemies Act have a right to challenge their detention through a writ of habeas corpus, the Trump administration is reportedly considering suspending access to habeas corpus—an extraordinary measure that is only permitted “in cases of rebellion or invasion.” For those in immigration court, the Trump administration has made it even harder to access legal counsel. Even people who are not subjected to expedited removal will face an immigration court system with a significantly undermined ability to provide even a minimum of due process. The Trump administration’s expanded use of detention and rapid deportations will drastically reduce the likelihood that people will be able to secure legal representation to help them navigate their case. Lawyers and the immigrant defense infrastructure that has grown over decades to protect immigrants’ rights has also come under attack. Trump has issued an executive order accusing immigration attorneys of fraud and threatening them with investigations and sanctions. He has also gutted funding for critical legal services that help people facing detention and deportation. The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) ordered legal service providers to cease work on critical programs including the Legal Orientation Program, the Immigration Court Helpdesk, the Family Group Legal Orientation Program, the Counsel for Children Initiative, and the National Qualified Representative Program—which represents people in detention who a judge has determined cannot competently represent themselves because of mental illness. The Office of Refugee Resettlement has also canceled the Unaccompanied Children Program, which was representing 26,000 children who arrived to the United States without a parent. The cancellation of these bipartisan-supported, longstanding, and successful programs is being contested in litigation. Nevertheless, threats to these programs leave hundreds of thousands of people—including children—without access to the basic legal information and representation necessary to navigate complex court processes. It has also forced layoffs of hundreds of committed and experienced nonprofit legal services staff, weakening a growing field that has already struggled to meet the overwhelming demand for services. The Trump administration has further proposed record funding for an unprecedented expansion of immigration detention by using federal prisons, military bases, the detention facility in Guantánamo Bay. None of these facilities are set up to house people who need routine access to counsel to prepare for court proceedings, adding even greater barriers for people targeted for deportation to find and communicate with an attorney. Finally, Trump has fired or laid off dozens of immigration judges and court staff at a time when the immigration court backlog is at historic highs and he seeks to put even more people through deportation hearings. The remaining judges face even larger dockets, with directives from DOJ requiring them to terminate certain asylum claims without a hearing and consider more cases at a faster pace, resulting in an expedited process that deprives people of a meaningful opportunity to be heard. Due process is essential. The Constitution and our constitutional system apply to all people in the United States, regardless of where they were born. At a bare minimum, people facing deportation should be able to understand what they are accused of and be able to examine and challenge evidence, in a language they understand, alongside a trained advocate who can decipher complex immigration laws. Due process is essential to safeguard our country’s fundamental democratic values as we work to advance immigration policies that respect fairness, family unity, and human dignity. unquote What Does “Due Process” Mean for Immigrants and Why Is It Important? | Vera Institute
  2. This information is presented for those who want to know the truth about undocumented migrants in the U.S. They are for the most part not criminals as the orange man and MAGA people would have you believe. There are many liars and deceived fools on these forums who could care less about facts and truth. We see their endless comments proving their own ignorance about what is really happening. The U.S. has a system which has evolved over the years and in the system, it is very difficult to acquire citizenship or even a green card or work VISA, especially if you are one of the millions who in desperation came to the U.S. to try find a job and help your family survive or escape criminal gangs and crime. " A snapshot of who they are Pew Research Center estimates that about 11.3 million people are currently living in the U.S. without authorization, down from a peak of 12.2 million in 2007. More than half come from Mexico, and about 15 percent come from other parts Latin America. Get the dataChart: The Conversation, CC-BY-ND Source: Pew Research Center About 8 million of them have jobs, making up 5 percent of the U.S. workforce, figures that have remained more or less steady for the past decade. Geographically, these unauthorized workers are spread throughout the U.S. but are unsurprisingly most concentrated in border states like California and Texas, where they make up about 9 percent of both states' workforces, while in Nevada, their share is over 10 percent. Get the dataMap: The Conversation, CC-BY-ND Source: Pew Research Center Their representation in particular industries is even more pronounced, and the Department of Agriculture estimates that about half of the nation's farmworkers are unauthorized, while 15 percent of those in construction lack papers – more than the share of legal immigrants in either industry. In the service sector, which would include jobs such as fast food and domestic help, the figure is about 9 percent. Get the dataChart: The Conversation, CC-BY-ND Source: USDA, Pew Research Center Further studies show that the importance of this population of workers will only grow in coming years. For example, in 2014, unauthorized immigrants made up 24 percent of maids and cleaners, an occupation expected to need 112,000 more workers by 2024. In construction, the number of additional laborers needed is estimated at close to 150,000. And while only 4 percent of personal care and home health aides are undocumented, the U.S. will soon require more than 800,000 people to fill the jobs necessary to take care of retiring baby boomers. Vital to American farms Since agriculture is the industry that's most reliant on undocumented workers – and it's my area of expertise and research – let's zoom in on it. Overall, the agricultural industry in the United States has been on the decline since 1950. Back then, farming was a family business that employed more than 10 million workers, 77 percent of whom were classified as "family." As of 2000 – the latest such data available – only 3 million work on farms, and as noted earlier, an estimated half are undocumented. Increasingly, dairy farms such as those in New York rely on workers from Mexico and Guatemala, many of whom are believed to be undocumented. Currently, there is no visa program for year-round workers on dairy farms, so the precarious status of these workers poses serious concerns for the economic viability of the dairy industry. In 2017 research conducted by the Cornell Farmworker Program, 30 New York dairy farmers told us they turned to undocumented workers because they were unable to find and keep reliable U.S. citizens to do the jobs. That's in part because farm work can be physically demanding, dirty and socially denigrated work. More importantly, it is one the most dangerous occupations in the U.S. A study commissioned by the dairy industry suggested that if federal labor and immigration policies reduced the number of foreign-born workers by 50 percent, more than 3,500 dairy farms would close, leading to a big drop in milk production and a spike in prices of about 30 percent. Total elimination of immigrant labor would increase milk prices by 90 percent. unquote These U.S. industries can't work without illegal immigrants - CBS News
  3. Here's another description of the insanity going on right now. " Thus it is that Miller and Trump spent the 2024 campaign depicting all migrants as dangerous criminals in order to sell mass deportations to the voters. Now, however, because there aren’t enough dangerous criminal migrants around, two-bit fascist Miller is frantically urging ICE officials to head to the nearest Home Depot and scoop up as many migrants as possible, to make those deportation numbers pleasing to the raging Audience of One. The absurdity of this is plain. As Josh Marshall notes, by definition this entails targeting day laborers—that is, going after people who want to work and whose labor is in demand, meaning it inherently constitutes the opposite of hunting for dangerous criminals. Worse, Trump and Miller are not just neglecting serious criminal migrants to target more noncriminals; to do so, they’re also actively shifting law enforcement resources away from other serious crimes, from drug trafficking to child exploitation. The Trump-Miller answer to the political problem here has been to deport as many people as possible, then label them all criminals after the fact. But that’s also not going well. The courts are standing robustly in the way. And polling data shows that while generalized deportations sometimes poll well, majorities do not support removals of longtime residents, noncriminals, and people with jobs. Voters want a law-based, orderly immigration system, but they don’t harbor Trump-Miller’s deep ideological hostility to the mere presence of undocumented immigrants, which MAGA views as itself posing a national emergency. That brings us to Los Angeles. There is zero indication that Trump’s sending in of the Guard has prevented widespread civil collapse from breaking out, as his rage-tweet claimed. Though any violence is to be condemned, the unrest has been limited to extremely contained localities in the massive land area known as Greater Los Angeles, as David Dayen’s reporting shows. Indeed, Newsom’s office tells me that according to National Guard officials it’s in touch with, most of the 2,000 National Guard troops originally sent by Trump are not even being deployed right now. “Our understanding is that there are about 1,600 soldiers waiting for orders at local armories,” a Newsom spokesperson emails. If this is true, then Trump’s claim that his dispatching of troops kept L.A. from burning down looks even more absurd. So does Trump’s decision to dispatch another 2,000 guardsmen. By the way, now that Trump has announced that he’s sending in 700 Marines as well, the L.A. Police Department has declared that this could create “an additional logistical and operational challenge” for those “safeguarding the city.” Trump is making things worse." Trump’s Fury at Gavin Newsom Backfires—and Reveals His Own Weakness | The New Republic
  4. He's not interested in rational debate. He earned promotion to the ignore list.
  5. I do not have the actual numbers of people deprived of due process before being deported. I think we can assume the numbers are huge under Trump if you read the information available. Not sure why but you don't seem to do any searches or read anything that is available to anyone on the internet. There are countless articles out there. Maybe you can find how many are being deported without due process and tell me and give the source. quote In a new threat to due process, the Trump administration is bypassing immigration courts to deport people without a fair hearing. President Trump’s mass detention and deportation agenda significantly escalates threats to due process by claiming that immigrants are not entitled to due process or a hearing at all. Trump has gone so far as to say that “you can’t have a trial for all of these people,” referring to immigrants facing separation from their families and expulsion to countries where they may face dangerous circumstances. President Trump issued executive orders early in his second term that bypass immigration courts in many instances by expanding expedited removal, a process that allows the Department of Homeland Security to detain and deport someone without a hearing before an immigration judge. Although past administrations also used this policy, the Trump administration has supercharged the harm by expanding who is subjected to it and deploying significant resources to deport people without going through the court system. In mid-March, President Trump invoked the wartime Alien Enemies Act of 1798 to allow his administration to deport people who are accused—oftentimes with little or no evidence—of being associated with the Venezuela-based Tren de Aragua gang without giving them the opportunity to appear before a judge. Hundreds of people, most with no criminal record, have been sent to Centro de Confinamiento del Terrorismo (CECOT)— a Salvadoran prison with a history of human rights abuses—without the opportunity to defend themselves against the accusations or to prove they have the legal right to remain in the United States. In many cases, the government’s accusations rest on nothing beyond innocuous tattoos honoring family and soccer. Andry Hernandez Romero, an asylum seeker from Venezuela whose tattoos depict crowns over the words “mom” and “dad,” was deported to CECOT with no chance to defend himself in court. Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, a Maryland father with protected legal status, was also wrongfully deported and placed in CECOT. What Does “Due Process” Mean for Immigrants and Why Is It Important? | Vera Institute
  6. I already gave you the information in a link. You must not read what I post. I will repeat it here. "Since 2014, an unprecedented surge of in absentia removal orders has resulted in the deportation of tens of thousands of noncitizens, often at the expense of due process.[1] The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) permits an immigration judge to order a noncitizen removed in absentia—that is, “in the absence” of the noncitizen—if the government establishes by clear, unequivocal, and convincing evidence that a written notice, called a notice to appear (NTA), was provided to the noncitizen and that the noncitizen is removable.[2] Since the Obama Administration, the Executive Branch has ordered immigration officers and judges to initiate and adjudicate removal claims rapidly.[3] This pressure to close cases has led immigration judges to issue an endless amount of in absentia removal orders against noncitizens without due process: proper notice and the opportunity to participate in their hearings. [4] As one former immigration judge explained, “issuing a removal order in absentia can serve as a low-pressure way for immigration judges to meet quotas and for the immigration court system to chug along, hoping that due process failures in in absentia cases will not actually be challenged or exposed.”[5] The result: year after year, thousands of noncitizens are stunned to learn that they are being deported without ever having known that a hearing took place." The ICE Trap: Deportation Without Due Process | UCLA Law Review
  7. Lying again. I never condoned any riots and never made excuses for them. People have the right to peaceful protests and most of the people are likely peaceful protesters. Rioters may have moved in now and causing mayhem. But I never condoned that. A small number of rioters can cause a lot of trouble. That has always been the case. The subject was not about the riots. Why try to shift to a different topic? The subject is the deportation without due process. That was the topic. The fact there are rioters causing mayhem does not detract or prove that many people are not being deported without due process. The rioting does not mean what Trump is doing is right.
  8. No, you make it sound like bureaucrats run the day to day coast guard. They don't. You or someone said there was a buoy light not working or a lighthouse. Bureaucrats don't run those things. Ottawa politicians provide the funding but coast guard officials in B.C. would do the actual managing any problems with lights or buoys. Simple really.
  9. " A majority of Canadians reject the idea they live on stolen Indigenous land, and the older people are, the more likely they are to say they don’t, according to a new public opinion poll. Among all respondents across Canada, 52 per cent said they did not live on stolen Indigenous land, with 27 per cent saying they do. The remaining 21 per cent said they didn’t know or declined to answer." Canadians reject that they live on 'stolen' Indigenous land, although new poll reveals a generational divide A higher percentage of people in the young age group reportedly think we live on stolen indigenous land. That is a good reason why the voting age should not be lowered. It appears they have been brainwashed, perhaps by the woke school system. So lowering the voting age, would give more power to young people with irrational woke ideas such as the idea that liberals push that Canadians are illegal settlers and colonials and stole the land. The truth is FNs were made up of many bands that were scattered across north America and did not occupy the large areas geographic areas which they now claim as their "traditional territory". So the claims by some FNs that thousands of square kilometers is their traditional territory is fictitious nonsense. The claims are made to get more money and control over land out of government. The BC NDP is giving in to many of their claims and is even beginning to shut down provincial parks so natives can hold so-called cultural ceremonies without the presence on non-natives.
  10. That was in a news article I quote. It is likely a fact that the number of people protesting, which is likely in the thousands, were peaceful. Likely it meant the percentage of people that protested were a large percentage were peaceful. It says "largely peaceful". No lie in that.
  11. No, wrong. This Snopes report says it appears four died as a result of the Jan. 6th riot. " After order was restored to the Capitol, D.C. Police Chief Robert Conte held a news conference providing a first report on the day's casualties. Four people, including the woman who was shot, had died. This number would rise to five by the week's end. "One adult female and two adult males appear to have suffered from separate medical emergencies, which resulted in their deaths," Conte said. At the time of this reporting, the identities of these four individuals has been publicly confirmed by law enforcement. The Washington Post and other outlets had previously identified the woman who was shot as 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt, describing her as "a California native and Air Force veteran [who] had used her social media to express fervent support for President Trump and echo many of the president's conspiracy theories and false claims of mass voter fraud." This fact was confirmed by Conte during a press conference the following day. At that second press conference, Conte identified the other three fatalities as well: Benjamin Phillips, 50, from Greentown, Pennsylvania; Kevin Greeson, 55, from Athens, Alabama; and Roseanne Boyland, 34 of Kennesaw, Georgia. According to reporting from Alabama.com, Greeson's son said his father died of a heart attack. There were unconfirmed reports, echoed by at least one journalist who was on the ground (who later deleted the tweet), that one of the adult males included in this tally died of a heart attack after accidentally tasing himself. Snopes has determined that although one man did die of a heart attack, reports that a taser was involved were false. On Jan. 8, 2021, the Associated Press confirmed a fifth death: that of Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died "from injuries suffered during the riot," AP reported. However, a medical examiner's report released in April 2021 said Sicknick suffered strokes and died of natural causes." Did 5 People Die During Jan. 6 Capitol Riot? | Snopes.com I corrected that from another Snopes fact check article. Four people died as result of the riot.
  12. Nothing dishonest about what I said. I did not condone any violence and did not say there was no violence in the LA protests. Of course there was. I simply said people have a right to protest peacefully. It is you that brought up Jan. 6th and now you want to debate how much unlawful rioting is going on. That is not the subject here at all. It is you being deceitful in diverting the conversation.
  13. Seriously??? Can't believe you would say that. 1270 people were convicted as a result of the Jan. 6th riots. Five people died as a result and you say it was "mostly peaceful".
  14. Nonsense. The January 6th riots were anarchy and law-breaking. A large number of the January 6th rioters broke into the government building, which was entirely illegal. FIVE people died as a result of the capital Jan. 6th riot. Did 5 People Die During Jan. 6 Capitol Riot? | Snopes.com "As of January 20, 2025, 1,575 people were charged in connection with the January 6 attack. The FBI has estimated that around 2,000 people took part in criminal acts at the event. [7] Upon Donald Trump's inauguration on January 20, 2025, he pardoned all but 14 of about 1,270 convicted rioters." List of cases of the January 6 United States Capitol attack - Wikipedia
  15. Another lie. I never said anywhere I support violence in LA or anywhere else. You falsely accuse me of using inflammatory rhetoric. I never did. Saying that deportation without due process is fascism is reasonable comment. Quit lying. I support peaceful protest, which is another human right. If people disagree with Trump and his deporting migrants policies or methods they have a perfect right to protest it peacefully. Nobody here is supporting any illegal behavior. But you deceitfully say I use inflammatory rhetoric. False. quote The Trump administration makes clear nearly every day that the rule of law is for chumps. It has been nearly three months since they deported 137 Venezuelans without hearings to a maximum-security prison in El Salvador, where they are being held indefinitely in horrific conditions. Others have been deported to third countries with which they have no connection. Many have been deported in clear violation of federal court orders enjoining the administration from doing so. Judges have repeatedly held that deportation without notice and a hearing is illegal. The administration has claimed to have no power to obtain the return of people sent, even in defiance of a court order, because they are no longer in the United States. Eight detainees were being sent to South Sudan, one of the world’s worst conflict zones. A Boston judge said it was “unquestionably in violation of this court’s order”. Rather than returning them, the Trump administration diverted the plane to another African country wracked by conflict, Djibouti, where they are held in a shipping container. Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Venezuelan who the administration admitted had been deported by mistake, and had been cleared to remain in the United States because of a legitimate fear of gang violence, was accused by Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, of being an MS-13 gang member himself. Secretary Noem declared that he would never return to the United States. On Friday, the Trump administration was somehow able to obtain the consent of El Salvador’s president to send him back, but only after a quick indictment was obtained accusing him of being a human trafficker, based on a 2022 traffic stop where other migrants were in his van. For more than three years, Garcia checked in monthly with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which knew of the traffic stop and saw no wrongdoing. This is the backdrop of the protest and violence that have erupted in California in recent days. It appears to foreshadow the next stage of lawlessness and a movement toward governing by emergency decree. Unlike the January 6 riots at the Capitol, the protests in Los Angeles were largely peaceful. To be sure, there were incidents of violence, a classic situation calling for police intervention. Five LAPD officers suffered minor injuries, none life-threatening. No ICE injuries were reported. unquote Voices: Trump’s response to the LA protests is a stark warning of what’s to come
  16. YOU are doing exactly the same thing. But you don't believe I have the right to post my comments. That makes you a hypocrit and a fascist. So you admit you don't believe in due process. Denying due process is denial of human rights and is fascism. That has been my point. Quit hiding behind the claim I don't have a right to say that. Nothing more to discuss. We will have to agree to disagree. I believe denying due process is denying human rights and is fascism. End of story.
  17. No, you need to read some history of undocumented immigration to the U.S. It has been going on for many decades under both Republican and Democratic administrations. It is not unique to the Democrats. quote By 1980, the number of people in the U.S. without authorization had grown to 1.5 million. That decade witnessed what Clemens calls a demographic and economic perfect storm. A Mexican economic crisis sent many young Mexicans looking for work, while a booming U.S. economy meant fewer young Americans were entering the workforce. By 1986, there were 3.2 million unauthorized people in the U.S., prompting action from Congress. The Simpson-Mazzoli Act was introduced as a way to end illegal border crossings once and for all. It had three parts: Give amnesty to those who had been in the country for at least five years, crack down on employers who hire people who can't legally work here, and pump up border security to prevent future illegal crossings. President Reagan supported the bill and signed it into law in 1986. Three million people were granted amnesty under the Simpson-Mazzoli Act, but by 1990 the number of unauthorized immigrants was back up to 3.5 million. "Border enforcement never really kicked in in any significant way until about a decade later — the mid '90s," Meissner says. "Then, the real centerpiece of it, which was employer sanctions, was very weak. There was not really an effective way to enforce employer sanctions and lots of ways for both employers and workers to get around it." Moreover, those who had been in the U.S. less than five years weren't eligible for the amnesty. "So those people who couldn't apply for the legalization program became the seedbed for today's 11 million," Meissner says. Boom and bust The U.S enjoyed huge economic expansion through the 1990s, which sent the number of unauthorized immigrants soaring. According to the Pew Research Center, by 1995, despite increased border enforcement, the population hit 5.7 million. As it became more difficult and dangerous for migrants to go back and forth between their homes in Mexico and jobs in the U.S., many of them stayed in the U.S. The growth continued, reaching 8.6 million in the year 2000. "Things slowed down a little bit with the recession in 2001 to [2003]," Passel says. "And then the flows picked up again as the economy heated up through 2006 to [2007]." It was then that the country hit the highest number — more than 12 million. "With the onset of the Great Recession, the flows ceased, pretty much, for a couple of years," Passel says. "After 2009, the U.S. economy expanded, unemployment rates went down, but the unauthorized flows did not pick up again. The number has been around 11 million for almost a decade. 2017 snapshot Today, the population of unauthorized immigrants is more urban, less seasonal and less Mexican than it used to be. About 52 percent are from Mexico, and the population is less single and male than before. U.S. 10 Years After The New Bedford ICE Raid, Immigrant Community Has Hope "At this point, the unauthorized immigrant population is largely a family-based population," Passel says. "About half of the unauthorized immigrant adults in the United States have U.S.-born children." An estimated 40 percent of unauthorized immigrants did not sneak into the country; they entered legally and overstayed their visas. The work they do has changed from being strictly agricultural to a range of mostly low-wage, low-skilled jobs such as landscaping, meat rendering and back kitchen work in restaurants. All Things Considered editor Andrea Hsu and intern Esteban Bustillos contributed to this report. unquote How Did We Get To 11 Million Unauthorized Immigrants? : NPR
  18. That is misinformation you are spreading. Claiming Biden let in 10M people is fake news, which has been debunked by Meta-PolitiFact quote No, 10 million people have not entered the U.S. under Biden as pastor Franklin Graham claims There have been 8.7 million migrant encounters since President Joe Biden took office in January 2021. Encounters are events and do not represent people; the same person can try entering the country multiple times, and each time is an encounter. Encounters don’t represent how many people have entered illegally and are now living in the U.S. No spin, just facts you can trust. Here's how we do it. See the sources for this fact-check Evangelical pastor Franklin Graham made a trip to Texas and, while there, he waded into the immigration debate. "(Joe Biden) undid all of the policies that former President Donald J. Trump put in place," Graham wrote in a Feb. 27 Facebook post. "As a result, over 10 million people have come across the border with no vetting, no plan, and no path." Days later, Graham, son of the late evangelist Billy Graham, shared a photo of himself shaking hands with Trump. "Look who I ran into at the border today! He was a great encouragement to many here," he wrote. The Facebook post was flagged as part of Meta’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Meta, which owns Facebook and Instagram.) Graham did not cite evidence for this claim and did not respond to PolitiFact’s request for comment. A November 2023 report by Pew Research Center estimated that "the unauthorized immigrant population in the United States reached 10.5 million in 2021." But that figure includes people who have lived in the U.S. for years, even decades before Biden became president. We have seen this 10 million figure cited before, with some articles attributing it to The Center Square, a conservative news outlet. The Center Square’s article appears to have based some of its numbers on the U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s nationwide encounters data, including for a number of months Trump was in office. The Center Square also said it based its analysis partly on information from a U.S. Border Patrol agent who wanted to remain anonymous. But the encounters data represents stops at the border — not people. These numbers don’t tell us how many people now live in the United States after crossing the border illegally. For example, a person who has been stopped by border officials on three separate occasions would be counted as three encounters. People encountered by immigration officials can be turned away, detained in federal custody or released into the country. Featured Fact-check Donald Trump stated on April 29, 2025 in an interview “If people come into our country illegally, there’s a different standard” for due process. By Maria Ramirez Uribe • May 8, 2025 The Customs and Border Patrol encounters data shows that from February 2021, Biden’s first full month as president, to January 2024, the month with the latest available data, immigration officials recorded nearly 8.8 million encounters nationwide. There also have been more than 3.6 million removals, returns and expulsions from February 2021, Biden’s first month in office, to September 2023, based on Department of Homeland Security estimates. There are no definitive numbers for how many people have entered the country illegally since Biden became president in January 2021. It is also hard to accurately measure the number of people who have illegally crossed the U.S. border because border authorities don’t stop everyone. We rate the claim that "over 10 million people have come across the border with no vetting, no plan, and no path" during Biden’s presidency False. PolitiFact Staff Writer Maria Ramirez Uribe contributed to this report unquote PolitiFact | No, 10 million people have not entered the U.S. under Biden as pastor Franklin Graham claims
  19. No, according to this reputable source thousands of undocumented migrants have been deported without due process. Thousands of people have been denied human rights and due process for years now. The 270 number is only the number sent to the notorious CECOT prison, and does not include the thousands deported without any due process or human rights. quote Since 2014, an unprecedented surge of in absentia removal orders has resulted in the deportation of tens of thousands of noncitizens, often at the expense of due process.[1] The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) permits an immigration judge to order a noncitizen removed in absentia—that is, “in the absence” of the noncitizen—if the government establishes by clear, unequivocal, and convincing evidence that a written notice, called a notice to appear (NTA), was provided to the noncitizen and that the noncitizen is removable.[2] Since the Obama Administration, the Executive Branch has ordered immigration officers and judges to initiate and adjudicate removal claims rapidly.[3] This pressure to close cases has led immigration judges to issue an endless amount of in absentia removal orders against noncitizens without due process: proper notice and the opportunity to participate in their hearings. [4] As one former immigration judge explained, “issuing a removal order in absentia can serve as a low-pressure way for immigration judges to meet quotas and for the immigration court system to chug along, hoping that due process failures in in absentia cases will not actually be challenged or exposed.”[5] The result: year after year, thousands of noncitizens are stunned to learn that they are being deported without ever having known that a hearing took place." The ICE Trap: Deportation Without Due Process | UCLA Law Review
  20. The sermon Jesus gave in Matthew 25 still has the general principle of the other central command in the Bible which is "though shalt love they neighbour as thyself". Governments and those in authority have the responsibility to treatment migrants, even if they came in illegally, with justice and compassion and respect their human rights.
  21. "Since 2014, an unprecedented surge of in absentia removal orders has resulted in the deportation of tens of thousands of noncitizens, often at the expense of due process.[1] The Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) permits an immigration judge to order a noncitizen removed in absentia—that is, “in the absence” of the noncitizen—if the government establishes by clear, unequivocal, and convincing evidence that a written notice, called a notice to appear (NTA), was provided to the noncitizen and that the noncitizen is removable.[2] Since the Obama Administration, the Executive Branch has ordered immigration officers and judges to initiate and adjudicate removal claims rapidly.[3] This pressure to close cases has led immigration judges to issue an endless amount of in absentia removal orders against noncitizens without due process: proper notice and the opportunity to participate in their hearings. [4] As one former immigration judge explained, “issuing a removal order in absentia can serve as a low-pressure way for immigration judges to meet quotas and for the immigration court system to chug along, hoping that due process failures in in absentia cases will not actually be challenged or exposed.”[5] The result: year after year, thousands of noncitizens are stunned to learn that they are being deported without ever having known that a hearing took place." The ICE Trap: Deportation Without Due Process | UCLA Law Review
  22. " On Wednesday, January 29th the Laken Riley Act was signed into law after the House approved the bill the same day. The act in question allows undocumented immigrants accused of certain crimes to be detained and deported prior to conviction or any legal process. Once in effect, it will permanently change the legal traditions of the U.S. Both citizens and non-citizens residing in the United States, regardless of legal status, have rights by law for a timely and fair trial or review as per the fifth and sixth amendments of the Constitution. This law takes that right away from undocumented immigrants accused of specific crimes. The law represents the first legislative victory of President Trump’s second term in office." Undocumented Immigrants to be Deported Without Due Process Per Laken Riley Act » ImmigrationUSA
  23. BS. I don't have the authority to give anyone authority to do anything. You are using a false pretext to try to deny someone the right to speak.
  24. Read Matthew 25:31-46 KJV How migrants are treated would seem to fall under this part of Scripture.
  25. quote 31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. " Matthew 25:31-39 KJV How does this apply to the arrest of migrants en masse and deporting them without due process. Well, it does have some bearing. The way I see what Jesus is saying the disadvantaged, the weak, the poor, and those that do not have the papers because they came in illegally is not as simple as it might seem to deal with. Many came from horrendous circumstances in some other crime-ridden country, maybe run by gangs. Maybe they were threatened by gangs. Maybe they had kids and were worried about what was going to happen to them. So they walked hundreds of kilometres or miles to try to escape the horrendous situations they were in. After making it to a country they thought they would be safe in and their kids would be safe, they find out that things changed. Maybe ten years or more later, they are now being rounded up and forcefully taken. Their kids might be separated from the parents. These are things unimaginable to people who hold citizenship and don't have to deal with it. But It sounds like Jesus is saying how we treat the downtrodden and unfortunate (migrants), we will be held accountable for. If you take what Jesus said that way, then what is happening is not as simple as you think.
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