blackbird

In this quote, you did not quote any lie you allege I made. You actually quoted your own posting replying to the OP heading. You quoted your own post calling me a liar. I asked you to quote a post where you think I lied.

I posted another article earlier that says millions have come in over many years, decades in fact and during both Republican and Democratic party administrations. That makes sense.

It looks like you got that claim from some Republicans. Those claims have been fact checked and found to be false. " Some Republicans, however, have misleadingly suggested the number released into the country since Biden took office is much higher. Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, claimed last month that 8 million “have come in illegally” and “we have to send them back.” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis made the same claim in a GOP debate in January. Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas said on “Fox News Sunday” on Feb. 11 that Biden had “allowed an invasion to occur at our border, almost 10 million migrants have crossed into our country.” Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org The fact is we can only go by what we read on various websites. Maybe you have some infallible source for your information, but I don't. Did you ever stop to think how stupid you look just repeating the same old accusations over and over? Quote the whole post that I lied in and let's have a discussion about it. Otherwise go away and don't waste my time.

If you were really being honest, you would quote the post that you think is a lie. Copy and paste the whole post so we can see the date and time and the context as well. Go ahead and quote it and let's discuss it.

I don't recall that and I don't have the time to waste spending hours digging through past posts to see who said what, etc. You are bringing up foolish arguments just for the purpose of making endless accusations. I don't have the time for this kind of thing. You repeatedly said I ignored you. Guess what? You are correct. Most of your posts are accusing me of lying. I don't have time to reply to your foolish accusations. I have better things to do with my time.

I never knowingly told you a falsehood. So your accusation that I lied is false. You need to look up the definition of a lie. To be a lie, it has to be knowingly or deliberately attempting to deceive. It's amazing how you have the power to read inside people's minds and tell they are lying. Trump does give the impression he believes most are criminals. "Apr 18, 2025 · Donald Trump has created a hostile environment for immigrants and labeled the majority as "criminals." "Jan 19, 2025 · President-elect Donald Trump has promised to target immigrants with criminal records as he launches a "mass deportation" to remove millions of people from the country."

"Hundreds of immigrants have been swept away to what functionally is a modern Gulag in El Salvador, and the administration has recently tried to send others to South Sudan, which is on the verge of civil war. Enforcing immigration policy does not have to be inhumane, but the Trump administration is gloating in the very barbarity." Trump’s Deportations Aren’t What They Seem - The Atlantic

Look, he says a lot of perverse things that are false or twisted. "Former President Donald Trump used increasingly harsh rhetoric to attack immigrants, suggesting on Monday during an interview that immigrants commit horrendous crimes because “it’s in their genes.” “How about allowing people to come to an open border, 13,000 of which were murderers, many of them murdered far more than one person, and they’re now happily living in the United States. You know now a murder, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now,” he told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt. " Trump on immigrants: ‘We got a lot of bad genes in our country right now’ - POLITICO

Seems you don't know anything about the American immigration system. Ordinary people can't just apply to enter America. It is a very strict system and only a privileged few can make it in under the system. Again you don't know how fortunate you are to be born in this country. Nothing you did earned it. What right do you have to be here in this piece of land on the earth than some immigrant in some poor country that is trying to help his family survive? You just won the lottery. That's the only difference.

So you trust a convicted felon to be doing the right things? He screwed Canada and other countries pretty well with his tariffs and killed thousands of jobs. Not the brightest light in the world to be trusting to do the right thing. I already posted an article that shows undocumented migrants are doing countless jobs in agriculture, hotels, and other jobs that nobody else wants to touch. Trump had to put the brakes on deporting people in a lot of jobs. America is an exclusive club and only certain people are accepted into it and the rest well, tough luck. Not much humanity in that kind of system. Definitely fascist. "Criminal illegals is a bit of stretch for people who are just trying to feed and take care of their families. You are just fortunate you were born in a relatively prosperous country with far fewer criminals. You did nothing to earn it. It was just an accident you are here. Don't scoff at the less fortunate and call them criminal illegals. You don't know what will happen in the future. You're just very fortunate now and you did nothing to earn it.

The fact is there are millions of undocumented migrants who have been living and working in the U.S. for decades. Then to get re-elected Trump calls all of them criminals and promises to deport millions all of a sudden. The whole thing smells of politics.

1. If one is trying to save his family from criminals or dire poverty and is like a person drowning in an ocean, it is understandable why they would try to cross the border. One does what they have to do in an emergency to save their family. 2. Applying to enter the U.S. legally is an impossibility. The requirements are out of reach for most people. Very few if any could be approved. 3. You are one to speak of compassion. You would just grab anyone and deport them. As least I have some concern about the harsh treatment of migrants.

I see the term as a kind of derogatory term to describe the people from other countries who are less desirable for America. American citizenship is a very privileged difficult thing to obtain. These are the requirements to become a U.S. citizen or naturalization as it is called. "You must also be in one of these categories: Lawful permanent resident (Green Card holder) of five years Married to a U.S. citizen and lawful permanent resident for three years U.S. military service member (active duty or veteran) Child of a U.S. citizen unquote One can see that practically nobody in another country could meet these requirements. The only possible way is to become a lawful permanent resident for five years and then you can apply. But becoming a lawful permanent resident is itself not an easy process. " Becoming a legal permanent resident of the United States is a lengthy bureaucratic process. Once you determine your eligibility, you will need to find someone who can sponsor your application. Then, you and your sponsor will have to provide substantial evidence of your status, employment, or relationship. The process of becoming a legal permanent resident will generally take at least a year from the date you start filing, but successful applicants will finish the process with their Green Card, which grants permanent legal residence." " To obtain a U.S. Green Card, you need to: Complete an immigrant petition and a Green Card application (Form I-485)2. Learn about family-based, fiancee, and work visas and how to apply for each. Discover the Diversity Visa Lottery. Renew, correct, or replace your Permanent Resident Card (Green Card) using Form I-901." You can see, obtaining legal immigrant status in the U.S. is a very difficult thing.

Your hypocrisy know no limits. The whole thing is ordered by a convicted felon. You whine about illegal immigrants but a convicted felon in charge is ok. Even gone so far as to arrest and imprison good people who have been in the U.S. for decades living law-abiding lives. Sadly you don't have any idea about justice and humane behavior. "Popular Oregon vineyard owner arrested by ICE agents outside his church: ‘Everything was taken from him’ " A popular Oregon vineyard owner was taken into Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody outside his church in Oregon on Thursday. Moises Sotelo-Casas was detained outside of St. Michael’s Episcopal Church in Newberg, about 25 miles outside of Portland. His daughter, Alondra Sotelo-Garcia, told KGW8 that he’s now being held at the Northwest Detention Center in Tacoma, Washington. She found out about her father’s detention when a neighbor spotted his truck and told her mother, she said. After confirming the car indeed belonged to her father, she tracked his location to an ICE detention facility in Portland and saw him later that day. “I was crying, I was a mess,” she told the outlet. "He was in chains at his feet," she said. "Shoelaces were taken off, his belt was off, he didn't have his ring, he didn't have his watch. Everything was taken from him." Her father runs a vineyard servicing business called Novo Start Vineyard Service. He’s been in the U.S. since the 1990s, but only managed to start the immigration process while President Joe Biden was in office. Things have changed since President Donald Trump came into power, she said. "I know there's a lot of talk of, 'Well, he's been here that long, why hasn't he stepped up to do things the right way?' But sometimes laws don't play in your favor. You know, when you're trying to do it, sometimes money is a big factor. Sometimes, money and laws at the same time are just not cooperating at that time," said Sotelo-Garcia." Popular Oregon vineyard owner arrested by ICE agents outside his church: ‘Everything was taken from him’

Wow! You don't think the Federal laws in the U.S. were racist? I posted the article from Wikipedia which you were too stubborn to read. "While immigration laws during those years were loose, laws limiting naturalization to those of "white" and "African" descent meant many other immigrants had difficulty acquiring citizenship. These regulations immediately created problems of interpretation – the contentious question of who was and was not "white" vexed even the officials charged with enforcing the law and led to significant criticism. "

See... another example of fascist thinking and disrespect for the judicial system. Your only interest on the forum is to call someone a liar simply because you disagree with the posts. Oh by the way, the word "alien" is itself a very racist term to call people from other countries. It is part of the degenerate thinking.

No, Trump is not respecting laws and courts. He is the King and sees himself above courts. He sent lots of people to a notorious torture prison called CECOT in El Salvador. He is a prolific human rights violator.

I do make points, but you call every point a lie. So I post article with facts. You refuse to read them. So again. If all you can do is call everything a lie, what is the point of your posts? There is no discussion with someone who acts like you.

The facts are in the articles which you refuse to read. So why do you bother participating in the forum?

" Facts speak for themselves. "In 1954, the U.S. government removed hundreds of thousands of persons of Mexican ancestry from the country in an initiative officially known as “Operation Wetback.” That racism, unfortunately, is not simply just a part of history. Donald Trump kicked off his successful 2016 presidential campaign by referring to Mexican immigrants as “criminals” and “rapists.” As president, he crudely said the United States should not allow noncitizens from “shithole” countries such as Haiti and El Salvador to remain in the United States, issued three versions of the Muslim ban, put in place a policy of separating Central American parents and children and much more. Although President Trump’s racial vitriol was unlike that of any other modern president, others pursued policies similar to his. More than 90 percent of the record 400,000-plus noncitizens removed from the country during the Obama years were from Latin America. It was under President Biden’s watch that Haitian migrants on the U.S./Mexico border were chased on horseback by Border Patrol officers and immediately returned to Haiti. And Biden has continued Title 42 mass expulsions of migrants from the Trump era, a decision that led former Yale Law Dean Harold Koh to resign from a post in the State Department. Moreover, the ordinary operation of the U.S. immigration removal system reflects no less than systemic racism. The Supreme Court has held that “Mexican appearance” may be considered by Border Patrol officers in making immigration stops, a move that has contributed to racial profiling in ordinary immigration enforcement. Moreover, police reliance on racial profiling of Blacks and Latinos in routine criminal law enforcement leads to disparate arrests of Black and Latino immigrants. Racial profiling in turn feeds noncitizens of color directly into the immigration removal system. It, therefore, should be no surprise that year in and year out Latinos and Blacks are severely overrepresented in the noncitizens removed from the United States. Resolution 610 was one of several ABA resolutions approved relating to immigration. Resolution 609 urged that the U.S. asylum system be reformed to afford persons seeking protection from persecution or torture more transparency, due process of law, access to counsel and full and fair adjudication of any claims to relief. It also calls for the end of the use of Title 42 to block and expel asylum-seekers at the U.S. border. Resolution 608 advocates for steps to facilitate the provision of speedy relief to Afghan refugees. The three resolutions aim to bring a semblance of racial justice to U.S. immigration law and its enforcement. Recognition of systemic racism in the immigration system by lawyers as a group — not just immigration lawyers — is a tremendous step forward. As part of the overall agenda to eliminate systemic racism from U.S. social life, we as a nation must strive to do the same in immigration enforcement. Kevin R. Johnson is dean and Mabie/Apallas professor of Public Interest Law and Chicanx Studies at UC Davis School of Law. He is the author of Systemic Racism in the U.S. Immigration Laws 97 Indiana Law Journal (forthcoming 2022). Karla McKanders is a Clinical professor of Law at Vanderbilt Law School. " Systemic racism is rooted in immigration laws — it can no longer be ignored I post well documented articles. You prefer lies and no backing up any claims. Nothing you say is backed up with supporting material.

So you're afraid the legal and the undocumented migrants from south and central America are going to wipe out the white people?

"Trump’s executive orders are pulling U.S. immigration control back to its roots, absolute and racial. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit pushed back against this interpretation, affirming the reviewability of the seven-country ban. But the decisions made during the Chinese exclusion era are likely to protect many of the president’s other orders from judicial review. That is, unless we overturn the settler mentality of U.S. immigration control." America’s mass deportation system is rooted in racism

" Making America great again Over time, Congress and the courts placed several limits on what is allowable in immigration control. For example, the 1965 Immigration Reform Act prohibits discrimination on the basis of “race, gender, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence.” And several court rulings have added a measure of constitutional protections to deportation proceedings and detention conditions. But, in recent weeks, Trump and his advisers have tapped into the foundational architecture of U.S. immigration control to argue that the president’s executive orders on immigration control are “unreviewable” by the courts. As Trump’s senior advisor Stephen Miller put it: The president’s executive powers over immigration control “will not be questioned.” America’s mass deportation system is rooted in racism What they have now is a kind of dictatorship.

You obviously don't know a thing about the American Constitution and laws. I posted a number of articles explaining a lot of it. But you choose not to read anything. We know you are in complete denial. Useless discussion.

Where is the due process in that case? Applying for asylum at the nearest consulate is a complete waste of time. Not a chance of success.