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You are being ridiculous. The mandates required people in different jobs like health care to get vaccinated and the great majority did get vaccinated. This is common knowledge. But you can do a search on these topics yourself. Don't expect me to do everything for you. You just want to argue about every little thing. Obviously just being a stubborn denier. The simple fact is far more people per million population in the U.S. died from Covid than in Canada. Nobody disputes that. Google it.

With the vaccine, the mandates, and health measures Canada has done a far better job than the UK and the U.S. Both of those places have had a far greater number of deaths per capita than Canada.

Nonsense. Not moving any goalposts. The simple fact is vaccine mandates caused a large increase in the number of people getting vaccinated. Vaccination has proven to save many lives. It's simple logic. Mandates increased the number of vaccinated people and more vaccinated people means more lives are saved.

It is a matter of simple logic or extrapolation. If the unvaccinated in the 80 plus age group died at 14 times the rate of vaccinated people in that age group and unvaccinated in the 70 to 79 age group died at 47 times the rate of vaccinated people in the 70 to 79 age group, I think it proves that the vaccine is saving thousands of lives. "Without those shots and immunity gained from past infection, in fact, this current stage of the pandemic would have been far more lethal, notes one expert. “No one wants to imagine what the scenario would have looked like if Omicron was at the beginning of the pandemic, just ripping through the population,” said Dr. Zain Chagla, an infectious-disease professor at McMaster University. “We probably would have seen mass deaths, we probably would have seen long-term care facilities get destroyed.” I will go with what Public Health Ontario and people like Dr. Zain Chagla, an infectious disease doctor at McMaster University say.

quote Public Health Ontario put it in a different way in recently released data. In the 60 days leading up to Jan. 12, including the period when Omicron took hold, the unvaccinated in the most vulnerable 80-plus group were 14 times more likely to die from COVID than their fully vaccinated counterparts, while unvaccinated 70-to-79 year olds died at 47 times the rate of vaccinated people in their 70s, the agency said. Unquote I accept the information from the data from Public Health Ontario. Do you accept this information from Public Health Ontario?

Some of the figures in the article came from Public Health Ontario. What's wrong with that?

You replied back right away without even reading the article. What kind of proof do you want? The article has facts and figures. If you can't accept facts like that, what would satisfy you?

"In the 60 days leading up to Jan. 12, including the period when Omicron took hold, the unvaccinated in the most vulnerable 80-plus group were 14 times more likely to die from COVID than their fully vaccinated counterparts, while unvaccinated 70-to-79 year olds died at 47 times the rate of vaccinated people in their 70s, the agency said. And those are the age groups that account for eight in 10 deaths, now and before." Why Canada is still seeing so many people die from COVID | The Province

This article explains a little of why vaccination has saved mass lives: "Public Health Ontario put it in a different way in recently released data. In the 60 days leading up to Jan. 12, including the period when Omicron took hold, the unvaccinated in the most vulnerable 80-plus group were 14 times more likely to die from COVID than their fully vaccinated counterparts, while unvaccinated 70-to-79 year olds died at 47 times the rate of vaccinated people in their 70s, the agency said." Why Canada is still seeing so many people die from COVID | The Province Considering this it is hard to understand why some people would be so opposed to the mandates and health restrictions in this pandemic. Surely they could not want to see thousands of more people die when it has been avoided.

You realize you and others on here have not mentioned the fact that thousands of lives have been saved by the health restrictions and vaccine mandates. If it were not for those measures, thousands or perhaps tens of thousands more Canadians would have died from Covid. Would you prefer to allow unvaccinated nurses to work with patients in hospitals or unvaccinated long term care workers to work with old people in care homes? Those people are exceptionally vulnerable to dying from Covid. It is a fact that thousands died before we had vaccine and it was largely brought into care homes by workers who had been infected by Covid.

Anyone should lose a lot of rights when they become a law-breaking seditionist, which is what is happening today.

If you had been watching the news, you would have seen the frequent reports of harassment, threatened violence, intimidation of residents and anybody wearing a mask in Ottawa. Trucker convoy: PM says protesters have to stop | CTV News

You asked for a useful cite or reference on the benefits of Covid vaccination. This is the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Benefits of Getting a COVID-19 Vaccine | CDC

You bring disrespect to the Canadian Forces veterans. I'm sure none of them would agree with you.

So you are an admitted law-breaker and an anarchist. Got it.

The Finance Minister has issued a warning to all those truckers who are part of the occupations that they could lose their trucks because their corporate accounts could be frozen and their insurance suspended. Basically that would mean they will be out of business. But she added they should get their trucks out of there now which could mean there is still time to save their trucks and jobs. The implementation of the Emergency Act also gives the authorities the power to require tow truck operators to use their tow trucks to remove trucks or vehicles from the occupation. They will no longer have a choice to decline.

The great majority of truckers (over 90%) are vaccinated and are doing their job. They are not using their trucks for illegal blockades and occupation, which is harming many other people. Many of these occupiers and blockaders are not truckers but are hooligans, thugs, and anarchists, from Canada and even from the U.S.

The Finance Minister just announced the corporate accounts of trucks in the illegal blockades will be frozen and the insurance will be suspended. She says now is the time to get their trucks out of the blockades.

Premier Kenney says he has the legal powers and doesn't support the Emergency Measure Act use. If he has the powers, why is the Coutts border crossing blockade still there? Why hasn't it come to an end? When will it end in Kenney's world? How long does he intend to allow the border to be shut? The RCMP arrested eleven people and seized a pile of firearms at the Coutts blockade. These weapons could have been brought in because of the length of time this has dragged on. This is the danger of letting these occupations in Ottawa and border blockades drag on. It gives more time for extremists/terrorists to bring in weapons. That is why the sooner all this ends the better for everyone.

We've already been all through that. Being vaccinated does not prevent one from catching Covid. But it makes it a little less likely and most important helps prevent a vaccinated person from serious illness or death. How many times do we have to repeat that?

It would be pointless to work and spend time collecting the information because you have long proven you will not listen anyway. It would be a colossal waste of time.

Would you prefer to live in the dark ages when a third or half of Europe died by the black plague? You would have loved those days with no vaccines, no government, no masks, no social distancing measures, etc. etc. You would have been free to get the plague and die without interference by government.

Politicians are supposed to show leadership and vaccination is the only way out of this pandemic. Thousands more people would die without widespread vaccinations.

Some private schools such as reformed church schools are notorious for not vaccinating the kids. They also had serious illness spread in their schools These people were made up of a lot of Dutch immigrants and their descendents who oppose vaccination and think it is poison. Sad really.

Still in denial of the medical science.