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LOL at quoting Wikipedia

Cite that figure.

Is that really how you see the world? EVs do NOT cost more to run, nor do Electric Ovens. You just sop up the propaganda eh?

The ones that can afford Carbon pricing the least are also the first to be victims of Extreme weather caused by Climate Change. It's not the poor that have huge carbon footprints that are being curtailed, it's those that want to pollute with impunity.

Another post full of useless hyperbole. It's inhuman to care about the environment and not advocate for unrestricted pollution. GOTCHA!!!! Poor me, I'm being disincentivized to pollute more. Muh Freedom!!!! Pathetic.

If you can't have a discussion without resorting to ad hominem attacks, it does speak about your mental capacity to have a civil discussion. Maybe you're not up on the news lately, but there has been a huge push to reduce the amounts of single-use plastics people use. Wal-mart has given up on Single-Use plastics. Why are you acting like all garbage is the same? Different products have different levels of use for recycling. I'll file this portion of your post away in the "Old Man Waving at Clouds" file. It's the young people that are advocating for climate responsibility.

The more you post like this the more I know your ability to debate any topic is suspect. How is that relevant? The only reason I get more plastic bags is to use as Garbage bags, which is something I can easily buy separately. If you regularly shop at Costco, you get used to not using plastic bags. For many materials it does work. Sure if you want to be Meta about it. But there's a difference between Hydro-electricity or Nuclear power vs Coal related to emissions. Ditto with ICE vehicles vs EVs. The Carbon tax is looking to tackle belching toxic gas into the air, at the source. If your car has a tailpipe, that's the source.

That would only be true, if the true goal of the tax wasn't to actually put a price on pollution.

You get a Tax Rebate for the Carbon Tax when you do your taxes every year. It's like $200-$300. At 11 cents a litre, you'd have to buy like 2000 litres of gas for that not to be Revenue Neutral.

Is it was a tax grab, then why provide a rebate?

There are plenty of solutions to reduce reliance on carbon. Some, like you, just refuse to use any of said solutions. Many grocery stores don't offer free plastic bags, most actually don't offer them at all anymore. I would like to see plastic water bottles be subject to some kind of recycling or disposal surcharge like with see with Liqour bottles or tires. Would you? I also believe Natural Gas is subject to the Carbon Tax. I guess electricity isn't because in many cases the electricity is derived from emission free sources.

Change happens through elections. The current government and the party that's propping up their minority are very clear about their support for putting a price on Carbon emissions.

So I guess you oppose the idea of an Excise tax too. If you're not aware, the HST or GST is tacked onto the Carbon tax, as with all Excise and Gas Taxes. I'm sure that makes you even more insane.

It's an incentive to use less fossil fuels. I guess if you don't even agree that reducing our reliance on fossil fuels is a good then then this must seem like an a front to freedom. But the other purpose of the carbon tax is to put a price on harmful emissions. It shouldn't be free to pollute.

It's more likely JT tries to call a snap election because he thinks he can beat PP now. The Stockwell Day treatment.

Again the real price increase comes from the Oil Companies and your buddy Putin causing instability in the market. Also, those poor people get a pretty good Tax rebate along with the Carbon Tax.

Gas Ovens are soooo much cheaper. https://www.canadianappliance.ca/product/Frigidaire_FFGH3054US_Range_Frigidaire_FFGH3054US.html?feed=7ee235&cq_src=google_ads&cq_cmp=1615884697&cq_term=&cq_med=pla&cq_plac=&cq_net=g&cq_plt=gp&gclid=CjwKCAiA2fmdBhBpEiwA4CcHzYAHUZmeiAVJxILzPuEmD7JIfYwL1JK2DqbA_2cyJVTA9rb9wvYfuxoCgDMQAvD_BwE

Sorry, people use Gas Ovens for heat now?

Awww muffin. I guess the 11 cents is a bit much for your budget. Guess you'll need to get PP elected whenever JT calls another election.

The Federal Government that instituted the Carbon Taxes has been elected 3 times. So you're a bit on an island with your sickening rhetoric.

When the first idea of a Carbon tax was proposed for the 2008 Federal election, prices were only a little less than what they are now. In the world of inflation, the price of gas is something that hasn't actually gone up all that much. The increases we're seeing right now, aren't because of taxes, they're because of instability caused by Nationalist's friend Putin.

So why aren't you outraged at the profit margin of the oil companies? I knew the price of gas was on an exponential rise, government intervention or not. So I purchased an EV.

If these metals are so precious and rare, why wouldn't they be recycled and re-used? You have people going through recycling every week trying to take the glass and metal we throw away. We actually recycle things like glass, cardboard and metals rather well. It's the worthless plastic that we don't do a good job recycling because it's worthless.

It's amusing that you all fret about 11 cents on the litre of Gas when the Oil companies are taking in profit hand-over-fist driving up the price of gas. If the price of gas dropped 11 cents tomorrow, the price would still be much higher than it has in the past 5 years.

Well you're not bringing anything new to the debate. You fein concern about the environmental costs of Battery tech yet are perfectly happy driving the absurdly inefficient ICE vehicle until the end of time.