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You mean when they downloaded just about everything on the provinces?

But Harris, But Harris....14 years ago. Who's been in power since?

Pot meet kettle!

I'll bet the only reason she had energy was because of all the coke she snorted before the debate.

Got our new NG furnace installed yesterday. Bye, Bye renewable energy, hello fossil fuel. I would like to thank the Ontario Liberals for making the decision easy. Pay their exorbitant price for electric heat or pay less than half for natural gas heat.

Not disagreeing but I would like to a cite for that.

Yeah I'm a tail-end boomer and my nice inheritance was $6500 stop the presses! But I do agree that in addition to salary/benefits for public servants and pet projects for political donors (on both the left and right) that social benefits programs are helping push our debt further.

You are correct, I read it wrong. I know you are not are not a Trudeau supporter. It was meant collectively. As in here we are complaining about burdening our kids with debt and yet Justin Trudeau and his pledge to balloon the deficit to $30B gets voted in.

But Kimmy, why are you blaming boomers for that? Let's get to the real problems....one is public service unions and their overly generous benefits. Anyone in private industry will tell you that one of their biggest costs is employees and benefits. Yet public service unions do not play by the supply/demand rules, they hold governments hostage and rape the taxpayer instead. Another one is gov't. waste on ridiculous programs and overpaying their political donors for various projects. p.s. did you not factor in the costs of maintaining that old reliant, when you decided it was too expensive to buy a newer vehicle?

Two of your sentences don't make sense. First you say boomers built schools and paid for them and then you said they didn't want to pay for them so they didn't build them. Which is it? So I guess the thing to do was to vote in Justin Trudeau who will push our deficit to $30B+. What the hell is it that Canadians really want? If everyone is so concerned about leaving our kids with debt, then why was Harper's proposed legislation limiting deficits to $3B ridiculed soundly by the left? Why do you think civil servants were dancing in the hallways after young Trudeau was elected? What a bunch of hypocrites.

So everything I have right now was given to me for free. Riiiiight!

Yep, same as in Canada and specifically Ontario. We're getting what we deserve.

I find it quite hilarious when people believe they are on some kind of moral high ground by supporting or voting for the likes of Hillary Clinton. It's as ridiculous as saying "I'm a better person than you because I only stole $200 and you stole $1000".

Do you think the Canadian economy exists inside a bubble? Or are you just being obtuse?

But Harper, but Harper...

Do you also believe in community buy-in for wind turbines in rural Ontario? Currently we have no say. Yeah, there are "town hall" meetings with local politicians and turbine companies, where locals can protest, but both sides know that these are just for show as the Province has the final say and Wynne will allow her Liberal donors to put them where they damn well please.

Well said!

If people like you ever took the time to listen instead of feigning outrage you’d realize how hypocritical you sound. Let me rephrase your words except from my point of view. “What? I'm supposed to have a serious conversation with someone (Kimmy) who actually puts forward the argument that everyone of a certain age (old people, I think she referred to someone as “Gramps”) had better opportunities than today’s generation.” There are a lot of millennials out there currently working and supporting their families. My nephew just got his “Heavy Equipment Operators” license and started out at $38/hr. That must drive people with university arts degrees nuts while they work in menial jobs. Sorry, not sorry, that you chose to work in an industry that does not have as great an opportunity as other industries. You make the argument that there are more university degrees out there than ever. That would support the argument that maybe there aren’t enough jobs requiring university degrees out there. You know the “supply/demand” thing that so many on the left (with their higher number of university graduates than conservatives) seem to always deny. Maybe you feel that it’s up to government to “create” jobs where no demand exists so that people with university degrees can be gainfully employed. I’ve been working over 40 years and full-time jobs that allowed a single income family to survive have never been the norm during that time. My mother had to work to supplement my father’s income. We only had six children in our family and we had shelter and food, but wore hand-me-downs, only had one TV and did without many luxuries of life that are taken for granted in today’s world. We were considered an average family as far as wealth went. Yes many rural families supported 15 children back in the day but they were generally dirt poor. We also didn’t have iphones and tablets and all the other mostly useless and costly gadgets that the younger generation consider a “must” have in order to survive their incredibly hard-done-by lives. In regards to butchers, well, some jobs disappear. Tried getting a job in a factory in Ontario lately? With every post you make, I believe more strongly that it is you who actually lives in a fantasy world.

Please re-read and try to understand this time. Or continue to twist things....don't matter to me.

For someone who is always quick to be outraged when someone else lumps some "group" together you sure are making some generalizations about older people. It sounds more like you are trolling than trying to add to the debate.

Care to debate the issue instead of showing us once again your typical smugness

or cue the young "instant gratification" types shaking their fist at someone who is enjoying the fruits of a lifetime of labor....

That's what you took from my comments? Never said she was lazy or that she was a piece of crap. That's just you putting words in someone else's mouth. Maybe you should read other's comments without your pre-conceived narrative in place. I am only saying some peoples expectations are not based in reality. What do think cybercoma? That people should get a free ride in life. Not make any sacrifices? Not have to take any lumps along the way. I realize many on the left actually do believe that a life is owed to them by someone else tho', so your comments are not unexpected.

There was a time, back when I was about 23 or 24, I had been to college and found employment in the field of my training. But after about 5 years of working I still didn't have a car and it seemed that I was living paycheck to paycheck and not getting anywhere. I was basically just showing up for work and collecting a paycheck and had started to lose interest in the industry I had trained for. I was doing a lot of complaining back then, similar to Kimmy, as I felt things weren't happening fast enough for me and that life somehow wasn't fair. I was blaming everyone and anything, but mostly the government. At one point, a co-worker, who had grown tired of my complaining, let me have it. He basically laid things out but the main message was that the "government" nor anyone else owed me nothing, certainly not a life. At first I was insulted, and angry. But then I decided I was going to get somewhere in life, with or without, anyone else's help. I started to pay attention at work and started to learn instead of just "doing". Within a year my bosses had started to give me more complicated work and had started to talk promotion. But I had already been searching for work elsewhere, and when I started to move around, things started to get better. I have since started my own business and, while I would certainly not be considered "wealthy", I have done alright and have a pretty comfortable living. And guess what....I'm still working my ass off to maintain what I have, but have retirement in the near future. Sorry, not sorry, Kimmy that you will have to work your own ass off to get what you want in life.....nobody owes you anything.