WestCanMan

He says that his info is on the "MB Health online dashboard". Shouldn't be hard to dig that up.

Right, but you posted a tweet 1 post earlier which was full of what looked like 'stats' but with no sources. Can you find us the source that shows 43x as many unvaccinated people are in ICU somewhere, as was mentioned in the tweet that you cited?

QFT. Leftists like to say that conservatives follow Trump blindly, but ever since Operation Warp Speed started promising vaccines, leftists started forming a cult around them and instantly banishing all other forms of covid defence to the qanon bin. HCQ?: "OMG we all know in advance that it will kill people. Don't test it. It's just Trump's way of getting rich off of anti-covid medicine! All hail the vaxx! All hail Greta! All hail science! Never question the holy trinity!" Ivermectin?: "OMG you're taking horse medication. If you wanna take horse meds just stick to the tranqs - they're awesome! All hail the vaxx! All hail Greta! All hail science! Never question the holy trinity!" Therapeutics?: "WTF do you think that covid is, a sore back? All hail the vaxx! All hail Greta! All hail science! Never question the holy trinity!" Natural immunity for people who already had covid?: "OMG, don't you remember the anecdote about the guy who got covid and then he got better and then he got it again and he died? Science just said that natural immunity is shit. Are you trying to kill us all? Why don't you just get a nuke, you bastard! All hail the vaxx! All hail Greta! All hail science! Never question the holy trinity!" (mid-2020) But will the vaccines be safe?: "We already know in advance that the vaccines will be perfectly safe, just like we knew that everything else was going to fail miserably. That's "science" motherfucker, and no one questions science. We also know in advance that they will work, 100%. Only QAnoners will ever dispute the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. They are a gift from God. And by God we mean the Big Pharma, not the Cheetoh demon who makes immigrants drink from the toylit. All hail the vaxx! All hail Greta! All hail science! Never question the holy trinity!" Why do kids die from heart attacks and strokes within days of taking the vaccines, are they really safe?: "The CDC said that the heart attacks and strokes that children have within days of taking the vaccine are likely unrelated. I did the math. 8.9M kids took the vaxx and only 15 died within a few days. There are 8 times that many children in the USA, and 8 x 15 is only 120. Do 120 children randomly die of heart attacks and stuff every 3 days? That would only be 121 times a year that 120 kids would die. So, do 14,600 kids die of heart attacks and strokes in the US every year? Hells to the yaa man. Kids die from heart attacks all the time. That's why I didn't do lines when I was 8. All hail the vaxx! All hail Greta! All hail science! Never question the holy trinity!"

Why don't you cite your data? FYI a tweet from Tim Broadbutt doesn't cut it, and his numbers are obviously bullshit. It seems more like a hyperbolic joke than an attempt at a serious tweet. 43X as many unvaxxed in ICU? Your Sask dashboard info says that only 15 people in that whole province are on ICU. How weak are the people where Broadbutt lives? And there are 83 in hospital in the whole province? Almost everyone either has or had omicron. If there are only 83 in hosp and 15 on ICU it's a cold now. People die from colds and flus all the time. It's like when you have that old dog who barely squeaks through the summer. Winter will kill it. On the bright side, puppies are born. We're all replaced.

I'm aware that you're unaware of the science of viral mutation by that sentence alone. Do some homework. Come back and tell me what usually happens as viruses mutate. If you get to that nugget yourself then hopefully you'll let it sink in, but if I tell you I know that you'll reject it evermore. Unless of curse, CTV says it, then it will be a revelation for you. No, that's not true at all. If they said that it's really, really likely that it's safe and it turned out to be unsafe then there's at least a chance that they told the truth. They said that the vaccines were safe, in no uncertain terms, and they were not safe. Kids "randomly died of pulmonary embolism (two), intracranial hemorrhage (two), heart failure (one), hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis and disseminated Mycobacterium chelonae infection (one), and unknown or pending further records (six) attacks within days of taking the vaccines." The vaxx made kids really unlucky. It makes me right, as usual. I speak English very well. I know what it means when someone says that "the vaccines are safe" and then kids who take it get super unlucky and die of heart attacks and strokes within just a few days. That's not 'wrong', that's lying, 100%. In order to be 'wrong' they would have had to have left some wiggle room. Use the word 'warrant' on a contract and then be 'wrong'. See what happens.

Again: the vaxx doesn't prevent the spread of covid any more than it prevents people from dying of covid. They could give those kids golf balls and achieve very similar results. When the vaccines first came out they weren't doing well at all, as evidenced in Israel, where the vaxx was probably less effective than granny's chicken soup. The excuse was "delta threw us a curve". They should have said a change-up, but whatever. They obviously know nothing about math or baseball. In any event, dbl vaxxed people, who weren't supposed to be getting sick, or very sick, or hospitalized, or end up in ICU, or die, were checking all the boxes. Right wingers react to facts and science. So there you have it. Leftists react like Pavlov's dogs/Stalin's useful idiots to whatever CTV says. Every thread really really brings that home.

Covid deaths stats for Canada by vax status: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-vaccination-status/ Unvaxxed deaths since Dec 14th 2020: 7,861 Unprotected deaths since Dec 14th 2020: 752 [there was a surprisingly high 'covid death rate' within the first 14 days of the first shot] Sngl-vaxxed deaths since Dec 14th 2020: 731 Dbl-Vaxxed deaths since Dec 14th 2020: 981 Not a single Canadian was protected at all for at least 14 days from Dec 14th, and very few even had a first shot, so 38M+ people had a chance to die and get thrown into the vaccinated column. Through the end of January there were still 38M+ unvaxxed. There wasn't a single double vaxxed Canadian until about Mid February. So basically, during the only full-on flu season in the timeline for these stats, almost 100% of Canadians were unvaccinated, just a small number of Canadians had a single vax, and zeo people were dbl-vaxxed. Flu season ends at the end of April, when the dbl-vaxxed pop was still less than 3%. Dbl-vaxxed Canadians started popping up en masse in May of 2021. About 40% of Canadians were dbl-vaxxed by the end of June, 60% by the end of July. Not exactly what you'd call 'flu season'. Everything was wide open - restaurants, sports venues, etc. So you can see that only 8x as many unvaxxed as dbl-vaxxed died in the 11+ months since vaccinations started, but there were 100,000 times as many unvaccinated Canadians exposed to covid during the last flu season, right through the spring. It would be impossible for the # of unvaxxed deaths to be equal or less than dbl-vaxxed deaths, even if the vaxx was a placebo. I know where you get your info from, and you're powerless to think for yourself. Yu didn't have to tell me who was vaccinated in your family, I knew. Hopefully for you guys the CBC doesn't say to walk off a cliff. Just in case they do, do you have a nice watch, and where's the closest cliff to your place?

Your own stats said 397 out of 8.9M, Even your own source said this, Aristedes: Here's the funny part: So, the CDC concluded that it's more common for kids to randomly drop dead from "pulmonary embolism (two), suicide (two), intracranial hemorrhage (two), heart failure (one), hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis and disseminated Mycobacterium chelonae infection (one), and unknown or pending further records (six)” than it is for kids to die from those things after taking the vaccines. "cause that shit happens all of the time, right? In your experience, how many kids just randomly have heart attacks and die? Do you honestly think that the vax was just a coincidence? Because that would be really fucking stupid. And FYI, VAERS doesn't say that anything I said is BS, because I know for a fact that the things that I said happened, actually happened. Where's this in the VAERS reporting: https://trialsitenews.com/mother-of-maddie-de-garay-speaks-out-about-her-13-year-old-daughters-life-altering-injuries-from-pfizers-covid-vaccine/ Where's this: https://www.freep.com/story/news/2021/07/02/jacob-clynick-pfizer-covid-vaccine/5323095001/ https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/michigan-boy-dies-in-his-sleep-three-days-after-getting-vaccine/ Healthy kids don't get that sick from covid. Healthy kids don't need to be vaccinated. Would you rather be the guy whose kid got sick in a 1:20,000,000 event, or got sick from a vaccine that YOU decided to put into their arm? I'd hate to watch my kid get sick and die from a needle that I signed off on. Or, if what you're saying is true [lol] just randomly die 3 days after getting a needle that I signed off on.

So? The FACT is that they said that the vax was safe for 12+. They LIED. They lied about almost everything covid-related. Now you want to trust them with the lives of kids 5-11? Two things I can't stand: cowards and willful idiots.

Lol, I never even thought of it like that. All of the consumer protections that you get on cheap crap but nothing for the thing that goes into your body.

It's an anecdote to you, to me it's real people who prove that the information that you're telling me right now is bullshit. Now you're saying that "the vaccines for 5-11s are safe but the vaccines that they're giving to 12+ aren't safe", is that correct? Do you recall that the vaxxes for 12+ were declared "SAFE!" just a few months ago? Now we know that was a lie. You can't say that something 'is safe' and then find out that it's actually not. You can only say that it is "probably safe" if you don't know for sure. It's like using the word "warrant" on a contract without saying "to the best of my knowledge". Considering that we now know that they lied when they said that the 12+ vax was safe, isn't it a bit of a cavalier attitude to say "the 5-11 vax is safe enough until we find out otherwise. Just jab them tykes ffs! Keep the old-timers safe"...? You know that old timers stand a really good chance of surviving omicron, even if they're not vaxxed. Why don't the old-timers say "fuck it, let's see what omicron does to me"? No? Just vax the tykes instead? OK, sure Aristedes. Just know that if the target demographic shifts to 50-60 yr olds, I won't be asking you to get all the tykes in your family vaccinated just to save my bacon. If there's one thing that I can't stand it's a fuckin coward.

The MSM lies and omits like it's an Olympic event and then they act outraged when people get their news from the internet. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so infuriating.

I know for a fact that's bullshit. Myocarditis is no joke. A girl that we know got myocarditis a couple of months ago and it was bad enough that her heart stopped on at least one occasion. She's still on 4 different medications and she just turned 20 this December. Another girl that we know had a less severe case of myocarditis and she's still suffering the effects of it. My wife's best friend has a son (about 25 yrs old) who's in the navy and he was paralyzed for 12 hours after getting the shot. He's still not fully recovered months later. We have a business acquaintance who went into convulsions for two hours after he got the vaccine. I have a friend who works at Canada Post at YVR and two people there died within a week of getting vaccinated. Apparently no fucks were given about them, they're just dead of 'heart attacks' - no autopsy needed. No one there died of covid, but 2 died within a week of vaccinating. Did you know that in Canada there were 752 'covid deaths' within the first two weeks of getting vaccinated? That's a lot of covid deaths to come in that two-week window of opportunity. There are only 8x as many unvaxxed who died in the 46 weeks since Dec 16th. That's 23x as long. All of those people somehow managed to live through 52 weeks of 2020 and at least part of 2021 before they died within that 2-week period. Is that weird? Healthy young people getting vaccinated just so that they can still spread covid is weird. The government constantly exaggerating the risks of covid and understating the risks of the vaccine is weird. People advocating/fear mongering for kids to get vaccinated is weird.

So I looked back at your previous post and I found this, added to the bottom of my own post. You said: The BLM protestors are just suckers who got stooged by some Marxists who wanted to get rich and live the American dream. FYI Brionna wasn't a pure, innocent child of God who was just 'sleeping black' when she was shot. She was the ex-girlfriend of a drug dealer who was still having packages sent to her house, there was a dead body found in a car that she had rented a year before, she wasn't in her bed when she was shot, and the police were actually shot before they fired any shots into Brionna's apartment. BLM handlers lied about her story to get their stooge followers riled up, but anyone with her record, in her position, who's in a house where people start shooting at cops is a risk, regardless of colour. M Brown wasn't a gentle giant, there's a video of him violently robbing a store just minutes before police arrived. Then he wrestled with a cop for his gun. Then he got killed. Again, BLMers told lies to whip their stooges into a killing frenzy, but there was no good reason for all of the cop hatred generated by that shooting. Floyd's killing wasn't racist just because it was senseless. Tony Timpa was killed the exact same way not long before Floyd was killed. Timpa even called the cops for help because he was having an anxiety attack, and they knelt on him for 13 minutes to kill him, but it was an almost identical murder. Cops there were even caught on camera joking about him after he was laying dead, and then they managed to hide the evidence for months after it happened. Timpa's family was tol that he died in hospital, not face-down in the street. None of them went to jail. Did you protest against police violence for Tony Timpa too, or are you a stooge? You must hate the Dems then, because they created laws to let people out of jail in states where they had the power to do so, and they bailed violent criminals out in the states where that was their only option. Kamala was giddy about all of the rioting that was going on. In her opinion, the 2020 riots ended months to soon. She wanted them to go on until after Christmas, but after the Floyd bodycam footage was leaked, the riots fizzled away almost instantly. The Jan 6th protest was legal, and anyone who thinks that the Dems didn't cheat in 2020 is just an idiot. They got caught cheating 3 times on the 2016 election, and then they spent the next 4 years advocating for fraud-friendly electoral changes like no-ID voting, non-citizens voting, mass mailing ballots which didn't require signature verification, etc. The people who forced their way into the capitol just watched 3.5 years worth of people rioting, assaulting cops, overrunning police stations, burning federal buildings with people still inside of them, and even claiming sovereignty over US soil and killing black kids there. It actually seemed pretty normal with a backdrop of 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2020 behind them. For sure what they did was wrong, but no more so than what the CHAZIs or the other BLMers did. I'll be honest, you did have some actual facts in there, even if you're most likely just admitting that Obama's rioters were bad retrospectively so that you can have a tiny shred of credibility left to accuse the Jan 6ers of being bad. If you really do condemn the violence of Obama's rioters, can you find any video of CNNers or MSNBCers strongly condemning the rioting, arson and looting? Can you find instances where Pelosi demanded the presence of the National Guard for months after the rioting was stopped? Let's be honest, you're a huge hypocrite and you were completely stooged for years of rioting. If you finally decided that rioting, arson and looting are bad then at least there's one good thing that came from all of this.

Nowhere does it say that even one healthy child had symptoms that are as severe as myocarditis, Aristedes. Again: why should healthy children take a dangerous vaccine to prevent them from getting a disease that's not dangerous for them? Of course kids with CF or cancer should probably take the risk, but I don't know if they're even eligible to get the shot.

I don't recall saying that I don't like you, but the things that you say here are definitely dumb. Not everyone who says those things are dumb though: some people say those things to control other, simpler people. Sorry dude, but you must realize by now that the vast majority of what comes from CNN and MSNBC is total bullshit.

That would make sense if the vaccine was safe, but it's not safe at all and you know that it's not safe unless you're an idiot. That would make some sense if the vaccine stopped people from getting covid, and spreading covid, but that's not the case either, and you know that as well unless you're an idiot. Are you one of the octogenarians that's willing to put their grandchildren in harm's way just to prevent themselves from getting a disease that they're triple-vaccinated against?

Well, at least it wasn't stupid, so it's a vast improvement from your avg post.

Right, use jb's matra: "Everything that I don't like or that proves I'm stupid is a q-anon conspiracy." Again: why should children take a dangerous vaccine to prevent them from getting a disease that's not dangerous for them? Are you a man or a mouse? Squeak up!

OMG are you still posting Aristedes? Have you no shame? Did you tell us yet why people between 5-30 should be vaxxed when: - covid doesn't harm them - they can still spread covid after they're vaccinated - there are serious risks associated with the covid vaccines? FYI I know a girl who was forced to vaccinate at 19 (she turned 20 in early December) in order to keep her job here at BC Lifelabs, that got a serious enough case of vax-induced myocarditis that she actually had a heart attack. Her heart literally stopped beating while she was in hospital. To make matters worse she had to take time off of work and she didn't get paid for it. Now she's on four different heart medications for God knows how long. Of all the people I know who have experienced vax side-effects she's the only one who (thankfully) has a medical exemption for getting fully vaxxed. Why do you advocate for people like her to take a chance with the vax Aristedes? Why did a 19 yr-old need to take a dangerous pseudo-vaxx for a disease that would never harm her, when we know that she can still spread that disease after she's vaxxed? You've never been able to answer that question but you still keep running your not-so-smart mouth about the vaccines. Did you see the stats for dbl-vaxxed deaths now? Can you admit that dbl-vaxxed people still die? Can you admit that there have been more dbl-vaxxed deaths since sring of this year than there have been under-50 deaths since the start of the pandemic? Fess up Aristedes. Your stupidity here is dangerous.

This is all just a move away from qualifying teachers based on their ability to teach the sciences and towards qualifying them based on their SJW/CRT dogma proficiency (aka racism). FYI people don't send their kids to school to be subjected to the social/political opinions of people that they don't know. They send them to learn the sciences, language skills, plus a few electives. People who don't want to see kids earning credits for a course called "Winning 101: The Trump Years" shouldn't be advocating for the politicization of schools because it's just a matter of time before their kids start being indoctrinated with subject matter that they don't appreciate. The most racist thing in all of this is the theory that blacks, FN people, latinos, etc can't qualify to become teachers because they can't learn math. Why should we care if stupid people aren't allowed to teach our future generations? Do population projections show a shortage of Liberal Party of Canada toadies in the future if we don't dumb down our teachers? I don't even understand the theory that certain groups of people can't do math. For every Katherine Johnson or Douglas Cardinal there are plenty of people just below them who might not be able to teach rocket science but are overqualified to teach grade 8. Leftards: "Let's start hiring people to teach our children based on the merits of their skin colour!"

Then you must have a link to go along with your blathering idiocy. No? Just the blathering idiocy then? I'm pretty sure that we all saw enough of that from you during 4 years of the Russian collusion show trial, aka: "The Biggest Lie Ever".

What you're seeing isn't a forum with a majority of conservatives, it's a forum where a small minority of people have the vast majority of the facts on their side all the time. There have been plenty of people who propagated AOC idiocy and Pelosi platitudes here but in the end every single topic eventually comes around to bite them in the ass. You're probably taking the right tack at the present, by just making sandbox insults and never venturing to present anything that you consider to be fact-based commentary, but eventually even you will get sick of just hearing q anon as an answer to every question that makes you look stupid, and you'll come out of your shell, quote one of your sources, and then you'll be blown out of the water. Then you'll be coming back here with a new username to take another kick at the can, and like clockwork, all of your lies and bullshit will fail spectacularly again. 1) You'd be the resident expert on that topic 2) I'm not surprised to hear that you lose debates with bricks as well Leftists did that for half of 2014 and all of 2015 through 2020, and now you're pissed off about 90 minutes worth of rioting by conservatives? Talk about hypocrisy. The funny part is that you come here making nothing but sandbox insults & stupid comments and then suddenly you're talking about whether or not other people deserve a response ? You literally wrote those two sentences side by side. It's like you were just trying to make the case that you're not worth talking to. You also skipped an opportunity to address 12 topics that make leftists look stupid, then you threw out a straw man argument to try to make conservatives look bad. It's like you were just trying to make the case that you're not worth talking to. I see a pattern. You're on a roll jb1A. ?

If you had more than just sandbox insults to go with then you could answer those questions no problem, but the sad fact for you is that when you look at that list all that you see is a whole lost of topics that expose leftist stupidity & lies.

Not really. The media creates a false narrative that's politically advantageous/protectionist for their leftist leaders and then they stick to it like shit to a baby blanket. They'll sell the emotional aspects of the story that they want their viewers to fixate on, they'll give their fake reasons why the shit is happening (racism, misogyny, Republican greed, religious bigotry, white supremacist, white priviliege), they'll bring on some 'experts' who will tell lies that they won't fact check, they'll omit all of the facts that detract from their narrative, and if there are facts that they don't like but they can't ignore they will portray them in the most unemotional way possible and they'll do it as infrequently as possible. They operate like an old car radio, amplifying the frequencies that they want you to hear and dampening the ones that they don't want you to hear, and they do the same with the emotions of each story. Eg, Trayvon Martin gets a bright shiny face (12 yr old pic) and a heartwarming backstory, Zimmerman was portrayed as a white supremacist Mexican American. Obama says "that could have happened to my son", meaning that Trayvon was dead no matter what, because being a calm, rational, respectful person wouldn't have been enough to save him from the bad cop menace that's endemic in American cities. Contrast that with the "car accident" in Waukesha. The guy who did it was "running away from a domestic disturbance", blocks away at his home. Did Zimmerman get an excuse? Nope. Darrell Brooks had just used his car as a vehicle earlier that month and was out on $1,000 bail, but this wasn't an 'attack'. He had written a rap video about the Rittenhouse verdict and posted it on social media, and that verdict was less than a week old. The attack was less than a 1 hr drive from Kenosha, where the riot was where Rittenhouse shot 3 men. He had social media posts advocating for attacks against white people. Despite all of that, the MSM was completely certain that it wasn't a vehicular attack and that it was completely unrelated to the Rittenhouse case. Cole's Notes: Zimmerman did it BECAUSE he was part of the racist cop menace and for no other reason. Brooks DID NOT do anything to be a menace and there's no reason to suspect that he did. He's just the worst driver in the world. People who watched both of those stories on CNN were given reasons to hate/fear whites/cops/Republicans and leftists were completely stripped of any political/racial affiliations. Do you get it? https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/22/us/waukesha-car-parade-crowd-monday/index.html That's what CNN initially said, then they added more detail later, bringing it to this: but that was still not even close. Actually he ran over his girlfriend, after he punched her out, so it was clearly a vehicular attack. It's more like this: He punched out the mother of his child and then ran her over with his car, and he was released on $1,000 bail. Then he posted some calls to violence against white people, released a Rittenhouse verdict video, and ran over more than 40 people an hour away from Kenosha. But it's completely unrelated, and not any kind of terrorist attack. No, they don't. No one with any brains believes what they see on CNN. Who cares? I'm talking about the 37% who said that they wouldn't consider going on a date with someone who was Republican. Some people have the ability to predict things that you don't even understand it after they happen and it's all explained to you.