WestCanMan

When you say "Don't overreact", are you saying that: @eyeball, @ExFlyer, and @Hodad shouldn't throw a "Some children are dead and we're not " party? Or Are you telling those clowns not to firebomb the Atlantic for uttering anti-vaxer hate-propaganda from a cult-approved platform? I'm not sure which one you meant by that.

Isn't "The Devil Wears Prada" the one whose grandfather was a Nazi? Her ties to Naziism make her a slam dunk for Ukraine right now.

If he doesn't pay attention to it "It doesn't matter, and it eventually goes away 😊" He can ignore scandal after scandal, broken promise after broken promise, a constant stream of material lies, beaten protesters, catastrophic debts, LPoC attacks on our energy sector that set us back over a decade, vax-fascism for an ineffective jab, soaring interest rates and inflation, rising crime, and he's ok with hate mongering from the PMO, so what makes you think that f-tard is gonna bother to look into the Brooksfield/Ukraine debacle? His focus is already back to "Poilievre is too negative, and he's not doing enough to help the country right now, so the conservatives need to appoint a new leader." Basically, 'Canada is faltering because of the leader of the opposition'. Start a convo about that and he will be all ears.

More than half of that is fact, the vast majority of the rest is just well-established practices of the US gov't that define their pattern, or their M.O. For sure it's a lot to say that maybe the US put snipers up to that, that's pretty for out there imo, but I'm not afraid to at least consider things, even if I don't want them to be true. Right now you're stuck at "America never interfered at all in Ukraine's democratic process", which is not even in the ballpark.

The left has a basic monopoly on domestic terrorism. 99.9% of terrorist activity from American-born citizens is from the left.

1) Just because the "Whatever of Suns" charges were dropped doesn't mean that it was always a fiction. That's an absurdly stupid claim. It's normal for prosecutors to change their minds about what charges they're gonna bring, what level of murder charge they're gonna go for, etc. 2) The charges against Maduro went through an actual judicial trial process in America before Trump's second term started. Grand Jury no less. You're getting propaganda from an MH source. That maroon thinks that the CBC is a legitimate news org ffs.

Fixed it for ya. Don't pretend to not know what America gets up to on every square inch of the planet, but especially in Ukraine in the Trump/Biden era. The US Gov't DECIDED who Ukrainians could even vote for. And if people wanna view Zelenski as "elected enough" for the present time that's fine, there's no one else on earth with a better claim to that throne right now than Zelenski, but it's a joke to pretend that what happened is Venezuela is somehow way worse than what America did in Ukraine: the fact of the matter is that the sovereign democratic processes of both of those countries were completely overtaken by American power-brokers. What they both have right now for leadership is America's appointee, for better or worse. I'm just not gonna sit here and listen to Beave pretend that Zelenki's appointment is 100% legitimate but somehow what happened to Maduro is off-the-charts illegitimate. You don't get to have it both ways. The Americans were bribing, conniving, manipulating, controlling, directing, guiding and everything elsing in Ukraine going back to the '90s. Fomenting rebellion/revolution is standard operating procedure for America. They did it in places like Cuba, Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Kurdistan (OMG the list probably includes at least one group in every ME country. They have trained and armed soldiers all over the world that ended up fighting against America in one way or another) and other places that are well-documented, and tried it in other places that you've never heard of. Wouldn't it be really weird if the US did all of that other work in Ukraine but just decided against stoking the flames at Euromaidan? Hell, the Dems even incited rioting and racial division in the United States ffs, when citizens and cops were getting murdered and billions of dollars worth of properties were being looted and destroyed. They also had paid agitators participating in riots AT THEIR OWN CAPITOL on J6th. So ask me again if I think that they had paid agitators at Euromaidan 🤣 "Nope. That's the one time in the last 50 years that riots occurred that ran parallel to America' designs but somehow I just know that the US gov't didn't get involved 😉" 1) Who would have that? Do you think the US gov't would leave such loose ends around? 2) And who would be dumb enough to accuse the US of being above that? Of course it happened before Z was elected. What would be the point of the US choosing election candidates after Z was already president? That doesn't even make sense. The war wouldn't be happening if Ukraine wasn't joining NATO, and you have been made well aware of that. You've also seen Russia demand it as a condition for ending the war. All I can do is show you the proof, I can't Understand it for you.

1) The Euromaidan protests were openly supported by members of the US gov't, McCain even went there to openly support them 2) The US had paid agitators there, just like at J6th and every other pro/anti-whatever protest anywhere in the world that the US gov't supported. 3) Whether or not it was US-paid snipers that escalated the riots is anyone's guess, but no one anywhere ever thought that snipers were effective as riot-control units. 4) The US gov't selected Zelensky to run in that election. Victoria Nuland was recorded in a phone call blocking Klitschko from running, because Klitschko wasn't as malleable as puppet-Zelenski is. This war would not be going on right now if Klitschko was the Ukrainian president.

So you're denying US involvement in ousting Ukraine's president? And let's not forget that the US selected Zelenski, not the Ukrainian people. That's not up for debate. All that Trump did is apprehend a guy that Biden's autopen had a $25M bounty on. Is it somehow more legal for the US to pay $25M to have someone kidnap Maduro and bring him to the US illegally than it is to nab the guy themselves? Would it be more legal to just whack the guy like Obama did to Osama Bin Laden? Don't act like Maduro is any better than Osama. He's harbouring terrorist orgs whose plans are to harm America, and he's shipping drugs into the US that are killing way more people than Osama ever did. Stop being such a f'ing hypocrite, Beave. There's no such thing as terrorists somehow being "more or less indicted than each other" in different countries. If the US wants to go get terrorists, we have always condoned that. When India wants to come get a terrorist in Canada, I personally am fine with that. Maduro is no different from Osama or a Khalistani terrorist here... 1) If a country with a legitimate gov't has identified a terrorist threat I think it's ok to go get them, and 2) when illegitimate countries and terrorist orgs wanna kill someone, they just do it as well, and we can't seem to stop them. Places like Russia and China, whose governmental legitimacy is of a questionable nature from our POV, commit extrajudicial killings in foreign countries as well. Literally everybody who can do it, does it. You're only hiding behind "tha wules of tha game 😭😭😭" now because it's Trump playing it, Beave. You view Maduro as "a man of the people with an iron fist" just like you view Suleimani as "a beloved father figure of the Iranian people" just because they were defeated by Trump, and "the enemy of your enemy is your friend". You're literally choosing thse guys over the POTUS, that's how f'ing sick you are. If Obama got those guys you'd be dancing in the parade, begging for a statue to made so that you could grovel at its feet. Put on your cozy little Trudeau jammies and go back to bed, princess. This is an adult conversation, and we're dealing with real world events, not your "pwecious feewings".

Do you even know where the word narco-terrorist comes from? Pablo Escobar actually blew up a passenger jet in an attempt to kill a gov't official. He was murdering police all over the place. Maduro is jailing, beating and killing his own people. That's not to be confused with CrakHoBarbie getting her well-earned fix.

Lol. Wait. Ewwww!

No, it's an actual terrorist supporter that posts here from time to time. He makes Radiorum look like a little-league terrorist supporter.

Are you saying the internet lied to me?

Biden still had a bounty on Maduro to bring him to the US to face charges. He didn't get rid of it "because it was illegal", he upped it. So what's the difference between "paying someone to capture him" and "just capturing him"? Is one legal and one not? 🤣

Somehow I don't think that hot lesbians get DEI status. I'm pretty sure that a black, Jewish, sexy lesbian is still considered a cisgender white male by left4rd cultists.

1) That chick is just rattling off a bunch of words that you don't understand in order to befuddle you into believing that she is saying something profound, but FYI it's just meandering BS that's completely detached from reality. 2) When you watch that again, just remember that the left considered a severed-head effigy to be "comedy", and you defended that. What's funnier: chopping off someone's head and holding it like a prize or dumping shit on some violent cultist m0r0ns? 3) The only way that chick could provide value to humanity is if she posted naked with her mouth shut.

Did you see Ironstone's post on P1, about the bounty that was out for the capture of Maduro? https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-issues-25-million-bounty-on-venezuela-president-on-day-of-his-oath-7445900 the outgoing Biden administration increased its reward for information leading to the arrest or conviction of Maduro on drug trafficking charges to $25 million, from a previous $15 million. Care to comment on the legality of having someone capture him in Venezuela and then ship him to the US to face trafficking charges? Isn't that kidnapping? Was Biden's autopen trying to encourage illegal activity against the leader of a sovereign nation? Are you gonna shut your pie-hole and run away again? 🤣

At least you're honest about it 👍

Venezuela is. 100%. Thanks for noticing. Blahblahblah. Who's to say that any election results there were legit? I dunno how the US can just tell them all what's what like that. They took out the criminal, they're taking responsibility for the power vacuum they created, that's about all they can do. Meh. I'm not a nation-builder. It's not for me to say what needs to be done at that level. All I know is that the head of the snake was bitten off. STFU, terrorist lover. No one really cares about your opinions. A strong western hemisphere would be much appreciated. Thanks Mr Trump. Maybe Venezuela would be a nice place to move to in the future.

Game, set, and match. GJ Ironstone.

Hmmmmmmm... The successor to Hugo Chavez in 2013, and inaugurated less than a year ago for a third term contested by the opposition , the president of Venezuela, Nicolas Maduro, whose capture and exfiltration by the United States was announced by Donald Trump on Saturday, had managed to maintain an iron grip on the head of this oil-rich country. It took outside intervention to remove him from power. Tall, proudly sporting a moustache, the 63-year-old former bus driver frequently recalled his origins and liked to cultivate this image of a man of the people, simple and down-to-earth. He enjoyed invoking common sense, butchering English words, talking about baseball, or his evenings watching television with his wife, Cilia Flores, the " First Fighter ," a former prosecutor omnipresent on the Venezuelan political scene. Aged 69, she was also arrested. ELSEWHERE IN THE NEWS: Here's why vehicle prices have increased so much since the pandemic It's an act he puts on. As for English... he was Foreign Minister for years [2006-2013]. It's hard to believe he doesn't have a perfect command of it , said a diplomatic source. By making him his heir in 2012, a year before his death, Hugo Chavez (1999-2013) had praised one of the young leaders with the best abilities to take the helm of Venezuela. That's the actual headline and picture that start THE ARTICLE THAT YOU CITED, and the first 7 paragraphs of the article, unedited. I just copied and pasted. How is that "qoute-mining and generating false outrage"? How is Shady's post in any way misleading? He seems like he might be a swell, guy, right? If Carney was the one who captured him, do you think the descriptions would still be the same? Would the title still call him a "Man of the People", or would it sound more like "Despotic Narco-Tyrant"? Does "Man of the People" quote remind you of Suleimani's left4rd characterization.... "a father figure of the Iranian people"? TreeBeard, I'll grant you this much: You have all the humanity, morality and decency of Venzuela's "man of the people" and Iran's "beloved father figure".

My prediction: Left4rd cultists continue to find Carney sexy and glorious no matter how much worse things get.

Wrongo, sport. This isn't an international court of law, so it's just our own opinions and interpretations being bandied about here. You said Maduro was a drug dealer - that's your own opinion, as expressed above - and we are both aware that's the case. (Your quote: "selling drugs to Americans is NOT MURDER and NOT a capital offense") So, in effect, you admit that an alleged drug dealer was arrested, and I said that he will have his day in court in front of a democrat judge. He's not deal like Osama, with no trial. If a Dem judge finds Maduro innocent, he will go free. How can you have a beef with that? The people of Venezuela don't. They are celebrating. There are no angry anti-Trump rallies there. So is your official position that Maduro is "not a drug dealer/probably not a drug dealer"? And Robo, I'm not gonna forget that you opined that Trump shoulda somehow unilaterally placed Machado in charge; a move that has no constitutional basis: "Trump just put Madero's VP in charge, not the democratically elected Machado, whom he has cavalierly DISMISSED."

I can see it now: "Curing cancer is racist!" - AOC and Ilhan Omar

That's neither here nor there: you're trying to make the claim that the US can't do something in Venezuela that you supported them doing in Ukraine. What's the deal, Beave? Is Zelensky illegitimate? Did the US Gov't commit a crime in Ukraine? Or do you have a different tune to sing about how international laws apply in Venezuela now?