WestCanMan

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Just admit you lost eyeball. I "Cite[d] precisely where jacee or anyone for that matter has uttered this I'll[ill]-informed belief that every single atrocity muslims commit[ted] is [was]the fault of the west?[.]"

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Opposed to what? "western companies that are terrorists" ? That's not even a proven thing. It's an article about one alleged occurance! Her one weak example was from Peru or someplace like that. Bolivia? Have we been attacked by a bunch of south american terrorists? It takes a lot more than that lame article to make a declarative statement equating to "western companies have caused so much harm that terrorism is an obvious reaction." You should be ashamed of that post.

I cited the exact post you were asking for. It stated very clearly that "western companies are terrorists in Muslim countries in the same way, giving rise to Modern Islamic extremist opposition to western invasion" and it was on the same page. In point form: "I (jacee, or whoever)" - the post is obviously hers, I doubt that you want to dispute that "blame the west" - "giving rise to" equates to saying where the motivation comes from, ie the source of blame. Since she was the one who made the comment, she is stating quite plainly that she puts the blame on the west. I don't see where there's any room to dispute that. "for everything that" There was no mention of any other sources of blame, just "western companies", so it's natural to assume that there's no other source that is worthy of comment. When a person makes such a declarative and statement you would think that they were trying to portray their opinion accurately. If you notice at the bottom of the post it says that she even took the time to edit it, so there's zero room to say that she didn't clearly state her position. "muslims are doing". - "Modern Islamic extremist opposition" is exactly what the "muslims are doing". Again, no real room for debate on this point. I win, you lose. Unless of course you wanna go another round on this one?

Post #432, 2nd last paragraph. And my original point was ... western companies are terrorists in Muslim countries in the same way, giving rise to Modern Islamic extremist opposition to western invasion.

Wrong again. The Police don't have a bad rap. They will be your first call when you have a really bad day and you know it. If you're being honest you also know that people join the police with good intentions and put up with way too much crap from the dregs of society. Here's a bit of reality for you. The police had to deal with an angry mob of losers like this: :https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=I-h-YIj4jRw It's really easy for armchair quarterbacks to say what they would have done in a certain situation. It's another thing to form a wall and stand up against a surging mob of rioters that are carrying weapons, and be under orders to use minimal force against them. The people who followed the mob in actually were guilty of just being part of that group, and also of not obeying the legal orders to leave when things got out of hand. If they peed their pants because they were stupid enough to hang out with those losers I don't really care. They are just lucky they did that here in Canada. The fallout from this is when police don't actually even stop looters and rioters because they have their hands tied by rabid liberal judges. You can give yourself a pat on the back the next time a riot near you goes unchecked.

Christianity is nebulous, but that's a good thing in this context. Christianity has been evolving for the last 2,000 years. Islam is stuck in the 600's, and by definition it can't change because Mohammed was the last prophet and the hadith and the Quran are the be-all, end-all for Islam. True, both religions have a lot of violent text. The main difference lies in what you would do if you were wearing a bracelet that says "WWJD" vs "WWMD". WWJD: heal, feed, love, make peace, etc. Not a very good video game but a pretty happy place to live. WWMD: Commit genocide, order the mass rape of all the women in entire towns, take the children of the beheaded prisoners of "war" and the newly-enslaved mothers and strip their culture from them, enslave them, and legally marry them off as young as 6 years old. Tell the kids that if they ever decide to leave Islam they get beheaded. Then give them swords because they make the perfect, soulless killers/slavers. If you made a video game of Mohammed's life it would have scenes of violence and gore that you have never even imagined. What happened in Banu Qurayza is not very different from what's happening in Syria right now. ISIS is following directly in Mohammed's footsteps. All muslim societies - maybe not exactly. But all ships rise with the tide, and if a society is muslim-dominated then it is either a terrible place to be or it could turn that way abruptly. Attempts at moderation within muslim-dominated areas have never gotten very far and even at that they have never succeeded for any great length of time. It's not accurate to say it's steadily creeping towards regression. It is far more accurate to say that it has been steadily creeping forward with brief setbacks. When they feel threatened with death by giving the wrong answer in 1 or more out of 10 fields that's probably all you need to know about the society in which the survey is being conducted lol. The moderate Pakistanis just finished a rape/genocide in Bangladesh 40 years ago. There was no Nuremburg to follow. No intervention or condemnation by muslim society. Their moderation is not impressive to me. And fwiw they are not "reforming Islam", that cannot be done by definition. They may be letting some of their stricter laws slide a bit but they will never go very far or for very long.

jacee you're completely off track with every answer. You blamed the west for everything that muslims are doing. That's why I mentioned that the muslims were doing it before they even dreamed of the west. Your first answer: "All of which has absolutely nothing to do with the current topic. What's your point? 'All Muslims always bad ... all nonMuslims always good?' confirms that you now completely understand that muslims have always been committing genocide. It has nothing to do with the united states. That's all I was hoping for is that you would grasp that concept. As per your 2nd answer: Yes Canadian companies are vicariously responsible for the actions of their employees. That's not to say that every single company is aware of and condones the actions of every single person that they employ all over the earth. That's why people get fired all the time. For you to say that those foreign employees are always representing the exact intentions of not just their employer but our entire country as well is just garbage and you know it. Do you think that Wendy's really wants people spitting on hamburgers? They actually don't.The whole story here is "some things may have happened". If they did happen our gov't is happy to prosecute. That's it. You can't extrapolate that into: "every single Canadian is happy to allow our foreign companies to rape and pillage at will". It seems like you want that to be the case so that you can throw down some righteous anger but as usual you have zero proof of your accusations. Do you know why you have no proof? Because it was actually impossible for it to make any sense to begin with. Seriously, where do you find the types of people who agree with the things you say? Do they have jobs? "Canadian companies are terrorists in other countries, controlling governments and pushing people off their land for access to resources. And my original point was ... western companies are terrorists in Muslim countries in the same way, giving rise to Modern Islamic extremist opposition to western invasion. That's neither an apology for them nor support for them: It's just the facts." Your logic is completely twisted and your understanding of economics vs terrorism is off by orders of magnitude. One more funny thing is that in the first part of your own post you acknowledged that you understand that muslims were committing genocide long before the USA existed. Now you're saying that what the big bad west did to the muslims is what makes them blow people up. I think that you are happy believing the sick things that you are saying, and I'm done explaining things to you that you manage to repeat yet can't quite fathom.

I did miss that. Which video? There are 4 and I don't have time to sift through it all. I don't see the big deal about 1 cop getting charged with excessive force in all that mayhem. Out of 100 cops there, one went too far? That's actually pretty good imo.

Rudy Guilliani! US Prez! Why the hell not? Time for an independent to win it. Is he still alive? I don't even know.

Most of our RC PM's have been from Quebec. That's RC central. I think the french and Irish are the only northern europeans with a large RC following. In the US who do they really have that's mainly RC aside from Irish and Italians? What's the highest level of office ever held by an Italian-American?

lol. Did you really think that you needed a link to prove that someone was hotter than Hillary?

I don't know how J Trudeau identifies himself but he recited the shahada (in front of more than 2 muslims) in a mosque. That's the only requirement for "baptism" or entry into Islam. If he doesn't consider himself a muslim then he's taking their religion very lightly. May be a follower of Selfie Worship. He's definitely into self worship.

That's true, but he didn't get canned for that. After they broke up she said that he left a NATO document at her house one day when he went to work. It's kinda funny that he got canned for allegedly leaving a document at his gf's place but down in the US Hillary didn't lose a moment's rest over servergate. Maybe it has more to do with getting him out of the spotlight while some biker chick was out blabbering to the cameras lol.

Honestly jacee what you wrote there was crap. The muslims slaughtered people in India for almost 1,000 years and it obviously had nothing to do with "the west". They started invading Europe relentlessly 400 years before the crusades started and it was exclusively about spreading their religion. Again, nothing to do with the west, or european imperialism. They committed their own special brand of genocide/rape all over Asia, massacring literally millions of people in the same fashion as Mohammed himself did at Banu Qurayza. Was that because they were mad at the west? Did the sunnis massacre all those shia 1,000 years ago because they were mad at the US? They must have had crystal balls to do all of those things pre-emptively, several 100's of years b4 America was even discovered. Now you're trying to cite an example of one group of people, who aren't necessarily even Canadian (just people employed by a Canadian company abroad), as an example of what "Canada" is doing to people? If some Mexicans working for VW in Mexico go rape someone is Germany to blame? Can other Mexicans go around to random places like Cuba and Costa Rica raping and murdering millions of people if it's found out to be true? You're off the reservation dude. If we elect a pm that wants to do that, and then we participate in it, I'm game for taking blame. Otherwise you have zero, as is the case here. I'm talking about over 1,500 years of history, all over europe the middle east and asia, with millions of muslim participants doing the exact same things as their spiritual leader did, and your comeback is "a mayan woman is accusing some people who aren't necessarily even Canadian but they work for a Canadian company" so we are to blame for everything that all of those muslims ever did? I can pretty much walk out my front door and do anything to anyone I want and cite almost anything that ever happened to anyone I know as a valid excuse for it using your "logic". One more thing: did you notice that the gov't here is actually listening, and looking at the possibility accepting some form of accountability here, or forcing that company to do so? That's not what "really really bad imperialists" do.

I didn't see where anyone actually proved that those were police officers wearing the masks. Having similar footwear is not nearly enough proof for anyone to believe what you are saying. These videos are complete garbage without more evidence that what you presented here.

Do police try to incite riots? Yes. LMAO, you answered your own question and you still got it wrong So an MP in England was told by some rioters that something happened and you turn that precious little bit of "he said she said" into proof positive that police all over the world intentionally incite riots? You wanna know what a kid in my third grade class told me? When he was on summer vacation his pee turned red. He really said that. So it's true. Everyone's pee turns red when they are on summer vacation between grades 2 & 3. Now you know.

Most Canadians aren't aware of a few key facts: -that the crusades and inquisition were a direct response to 400 years of muslim jihad -that Mohammed committed genocide himself -that the muslims committed so many genocides, and so large. Go talk to a few people you know and ask them if they know any of those things. Most people on this site didn't, and that's after they wrote dozens of posts about how cute and cuddly Islam is. "Now" refers to - now that we're suddenly bringing in boatloads of people who are theoretically refugees, although they are really just displaced by war, from the world's biggest genocidal terrorist zone and surrounding areas.

By "the Liberals" I mean the party. If I meant liberals in general I wouldn't have capitalized it.

Too bad M Bernier dated that biker chick. A quebecer would have a really good shot at unseating Turdeau. AB and Sask are voting conservative no matter what, but you can't win an election without Que or Ont. I don't think people from Ontario are going to hang their vote on what prov the candidate is from, so a Quebecer is the best bet they have imo.

Didn't they call it "snitch" line? That was what they said on the news. I'm not sure why they didn't just leave it as a 911 call.