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Terrorism creates terrorism. The Israelis have only themselves to blame.

Yes this is true but different situation. Jews were rounded up randomly for being jews and then murdered. This is not what Israel is doing to Palestinians. Maybe some may argue the Israelis have taken away their homeland and treating them badly but they are not picked up for being Palestinians and sent to extermination camps. Also those groups fought sgainst the German soldiers and did not blow up randomly German civilians.

It is two sided because there is always a two side to everything. You say Palestinians are surrounded by a military which in my view has little or no respect for the lives of civilians but also you ignore the fact that Israel is also surrounded by a very fierce enemy who if they get their way much more than 60 civilians will be massacred. I condemn the actions of Israelis and at the same time recognize the situation that Israel is, though it does not justify killing unarmed but very angry/violent civilians by a country who claims to be a democracy and civilize. That said My post you quoted was supposed to be informative based on what has been reported in the news media. I was surprised that after such bloodshed and going on for a while not a single poster on this forum condemned or even commented about that.

Israeli soldiers kill 60 Palestinian civilians and injured hundreds more. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44131466 Israel has been accused of showing no restraint. Europe called for independent investigations into what Palestinians called "crimes against humanity" by Israelis while Israel blames it on Hamas.

A few incorrect statements contradictory to facts stated above (in fact most statements are wrong). First most of 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia (as i said people of SA are very much anti West and hate the West, US in particular for the support of Israel), but NOT sent by Saudi Arabian government. So nothing new to remember there. Second Iran was not that westernized in 1953 and there was NOT any regime change in 1953. Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was the king in 1952 and also in 1954 with more powers of course. The King had the constitutional power in 1953 to remove the Prime Minister and he exercised that power as the country was in chaos with clashes everywhere and the ports blocked by the damn British but the Prime minister of the time refused to step down and the Shah flee the country and once he was in Italy with his very beautiful queen the news was broke out to him that the nation of Iran had poured into streets demanding his return which was of course a lie since it was a US back coup. But the Shah had nothing and knew nothing of the coup. His reaction was "I knew the people of Iran loved me!!!!!". In all those years he had been saying that he does not wish his thrown on the blood of his people. That was why the 1979 rebellion coup against the legal government succeeded in spite of the fact that the strongest army in the region built by him over decades was behind him, that was because he ordered his generals to avoid bloodshed. As for US wanting for a regime change in Iran, I hope so (in long term damage to the country and harm to its nation under mullahs would be by far more and worse than any US action) and that may be right but wanting is different with achieving. I do believe that US plan includes economic sanctions by US and Europe causing internal unrest and probable removal of the regime as a result rather than any military action.

There is no issue between US and Iran or Israel and Iran or any country and Iran. The problems are purposely created by Iran regime. As always they create enemies so that they can survive longer. They feed on hate and war and without them they fall. Saudi Arabian government is not a threat to the west. Saudi Arabia's people are as they hate the west and democratic and equality values it stands for especially its support for Israel. This is a total oppossite to Iran where people are westernized and pro-west and the unelected regime is fiecely against west. You could say Overall this makes Saudi Arabia more of a long term threat because regime changes but people don't. But Saudi regime is no threat to the west.

Obama was another idiot democratic President. Idiot peanut brain Carter planted the seed of terror and Islamic regime in 1979 and Obama let them stay in 2009 on and grow stronger in 2015 . Idiot democrats are OUT now. Time for the Republicans to take over and overdue to change things fpr a safer and better world for everyone on this planet.

Saudi Arabia regime stinks but its regime is not anywhere close as oppressive as Iranian regime. As ONE example if women is SA wear veils or ban of alcohol or a ban on mixing boys and girls or mixed parties....etc. that is because an overwhelming majority of their population want it and do it regardless of whether it is the law or not BUT in case of Iran it is totally the opposite (thanks to advanced minded Pahlavi dynasty). Overwhelming majority of Iran's people do not want ny of those backward rules imposed on them and are openly defying them risking their lives even, and the regime forces all that on them. Also I have not heard SA guards shoting into peaceful crowds or not paying their workers (slavery) or forcing prisoners of conscious to commit suicides or rape and torture in jails. So you are biased and wrong in your statements as usual.

Cyrus the great's head on Israeli coin is a small way Israelis thanking the great Persian King who freed Jews from slavery and built houses for them 2500 years ago. Iranian imperial flag with lion and sword is also on the coin. The Persian people will free themselves from slavery too hopefully soon. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5718129/Donald-Trumps-face-feature-Israeli-coin-marking-70th-anniversary-Israel-independence.html?ito=amp_whatsapp_share_top

Geez read your history and educate yourself before posting. It is not other nationals only but Iranian nationals did overthrow regime too (that is why they are in this mess now) however, it was NOTHING compare to this oppression they are in now. They even check into your bedrooms and reward your neighbors to spy on you and jail you (and a lot happens in jails including forced suicides) without any reason or proof with regime made accusations even if they suspect one in a million you may be involve in something. Not to mention forced everything including hijab.

Easy for you to say hiding behind your computer but if you had a machine gun in your face with thousands of well paid thugs confronting you or facing the prospects of being taken to jail and beaten to death after being tortured and raped then I could ask you hey fellow, if you wanted to change the government then you should have done so by now!!!!!!!!! What the hell has Canadato do with all this? Canada will never bomb Iran. They may act as peace keeper after military occupation or until when a transitional government in Iran can take over elected by the nation.

Ahh read the posts first before making idiotic comments. The debate is whether Iran will become like Syria or disintegrate if the people wish to change the regime and revolve or like Iraq in the unlikely scenario that it is militarily invaded. No one said it can not be bombed like it has covered its skies with a protective ironic ceiling or something!!!!!.

Iran is not the same as Syria or Iraq. It is iran regime and its supporters who are trying to scare the people of Iran by putting the fear of Iraq and Syria and ISIS in their hearts to prevent them from revolving and so that they keep stealing their money and lives. Iran is a non-Arab and very united country whose minorities share the same history, culture and traditions for over 25 centuries. The people of Azari defended Iran with their blood when the Turks invaded. The poeple of Kurdistan (the kurdish minority) and Khuzestan (including Arab minorities) defended against Iraqi invasion. Iran is much more educated then both Syria and Iraq. Politics runnung high among Iranians for centuries while both Iraq and Syria were colonized last century Iranians kept their independence and were NEVER colonized. Iran will not become another Syria or Iraq because Iran is much more advanced than both Iraq and Syria and an ancient civilization.

I won't response to all those allegations on Syria because this thread is about Iran. And I said what I said that Iranian people's money is stolen from them in many billions while they are facing poverty and hardship (while living in a very rich country in terms of both natural and human resources) to protect a mass muderer and other terrorist groups without any benefit to their national interests, only to satisfy regime ideology and fill up their own pockets and foreign bank accounts.

Were you looking in a mirror when you posted above? because It is YOU who is saying there will be a US war with Iran. I am saying it is unlikely giving geopolitical and public opinions reasons. Read your own posts!!!!!!!!!!

Very false analysis and comments. So two wrongs doing it right? Damn russians have been colonizing half the world last century including eastern Europe and former Soviet states. So Syria is another example. Syria"s civil war started because the people of syria were fed up with Assad's regime inherited from his father and wanted him OUT. Not external forces. And yes he is stilll in charge because billions of dollars stolen from poor Iranian people by its regime was used to prop up his muderous regime. And Syria was obliterated just because of that a muderer did not wish to give up power. And anyone supporting the Syrian side is equally guilty and has a share in spilled blood of Syrian people and poverty and spilled blood of Iranian people on his or her hands and conscious.

What are Iranian facilities doing in Syria? Why Iran regime is spending billions of dollars of people's money to protect a mass muderer when its own economy is in tailspin and many thousands of workers have not been paid and millions don't have water and air so badly populated and many millions live below poverty and out of work while prices for everthing especially essentials like food is skyrocketting? Btw, they are not Iranian facilities they are revolutionary guards facilites. Same bunch who were shooting at peaceful demonstrators in many Iranian towns and cities a few months ago. Lets not forget this when Israel attacks.

Great now a dictator and mass murderer like Kin jong Un of oppressive North Korea should win Nobel peace price. May be later the Ayatolah too and while at it he may make peace with Assad too, so he may be nominated too. Never mind all the past crimes but since he was forced to make peace then he suddenly becomes a man of peace rather than what he really is (a man of piece)!!!!!.

Not sure I understand what you are saying but Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan. It is three times the area and more yjan twice the population and the size of the army and covered by mountains and militarily hard to conquer. Though logic always says that a rogue state must be stopped before it becomes a superpower (i.e. Nazi Germany) at any cost but the reality is that USA is a democracy (unlike Iran) and one man cannot decide on war and peace and the president needs congressional approval for a war and American public is not ready for another bloody war. America wants a regime change in Iran and they may achieve it by harsh sanctions if Europe is forced to take part too but America does not want or can not afford another war anytime soon.

What is resumption of sanctions got to do with invasion of Iran????!!!!!!! Absolutely nothing. However, resumption of sanctions will have adverse economic impact on Iran and unfortunately not only on Iran regime. Trump pulled the US out of JCPA. While Iran economy is in a tailspin and national currency has become worthless and going down further and isolated street demonstrations against the regime continues in towns and cities and brave lion hearted Iranian women taking off their forced hijabs in opposition to regime and worker strikes spreading and inflation and unemployment rising even higher and bankrupcies increasing and regime-made drought spreading all over the country and Iran revolutionary guards under attack in Syria, to add insult to injury President Trump pulls United States out of JCPA and imposed very strict sanctions against Iran regime while praising the people of Iran taken as prisoners in their own homeland and praising the country itself as an ancient civilization, he clearly differentiated between the two entities, Iran and its regime (should be a lesson to many posters here). He may be able to achieve his goals without firing a single bullet? That remains to be seen.

Trump and Obama. Very simple.One is a winner and the other a loser. One brought down North Korea to submission and likely will do same with Iran regime and the other signed a deal with the devil. The winner forced Saudi Arabia to start climbing the path of progess and grant rights to women and brought down Americam unemployment to its lowest in decades.

Civil strikes started.................. Civil strikes is the most effective and most bloodless way of toppling the regime and this is also advocated by the Crown Prince (Reza Pahlavi) who is a democrat and against violence and fears for the lives of his nation and it appears that it has started. https://www.wsj.com/articles/labor-strikes-and-worker-protests-erupt-across-iran-this-is-slavery-1525626832 Street demonstrations would be a very bloody alternative as started last December/January as the regime will not hesitate to machine gun the peaceful crowd for its survival. The civil strikes is the most peaceful and bloodless as they cannot shoot people for not going to work. However, for it to work it has to spread to all other workers too all over the country. On another note with the very likely re-imposition of sanctions by the US on May 12 the economic situation will only get worse and labor conditions will worsen and the poor (the majority) more squeezed and poorer and national currency already worthless and inflation skyrocketted. Considering that the recent anti-regime mass demonstrations came from the poor who used to be regime supporters, this is not good news for the regime.............

Now you are lying. I never said I hate Arabs/Jews (and you say I say that a lot!!!!!). I have said a few times that I hate the actions of Arabs in the past (invading other nations and forcing them to accept their backward values, or their brutality and lack of respect for women.....and I have said I hate Israeli army actions against the defenseless women and children but never said I hate Arabs and Jews). I have a very white skin myself likely the whitest around, but I do not believe that white skin is any better than other skins. I believe it is what is under the skin that matters like the size f the heart and brain rather than the skin itself. So you also despise whites who are liberals in addition to gays, Jews and Arabs and Muslims and likely blacks too. Then you only like white, conservative, straight, men who also hate others, right? Very nice guy if I may say!!!!!!!!!!

I was referring to Arabs killing Israeli civilians. It has nothing to do with politicians allowing them into the west. Yeah I see that you hate Arabs/muslims more than the jews. Or do you hate anyone who is not Caucasian as long as he is not gay, right? What I don't understand is that WHY you have come in support of the people you hate so much so strongly as shown in all your previous posts (Arabs who are also Musims like Palestinians)!!!!!!!!!!!.

I guess it is no worse than when Arab terrorist yelling Allah Akbar just before he or she explodes himself/herself killing an innocent crowd. There is too much hate on both sides and both sides are guilty of hate and killing. Lets be unbiased in our analysis and comments.