Freddy

This thread is like a rare glimpse into your mind.

We both know that's bs.Ok You can't win its to easy. If men are more valuable, why would we send male army's throughout history to wage war, when there is very high chance of them being slaughtered? Your one very stubborn Black Dog. Woudnt it make sense to send your least valuable assets to be killed?

And I think that is due to humans still being very much functioning on a instinctive Level.

I agree, it dose existe among many different culture. But my argument is its not really rising above our own instinct, it's simply using our basic animal instinct of what we feel is good or bad for ourselves and applying it to others with imagination of being in their shoes. Maybe that's why it relatively easily achievable. It's closely related to our basic instinct.

The idea of a round earth was talked about in Greek's time. But only started to be accepted in 1522. 3000 years of denial is not long enough for you?

I know, that child rearing only gets harder and harder as we introduce more foreign concepts that do not closely relate to our basic instinct's. The un-natural behaviours have to be constantly reminded several times before they take hold onto the children's minds. And they use them as defacto behaviour.

The problem with rising above our instinct consciously is that, their is usually only one right way to act, and millions of wrong way. With more chances of getting it wrong then getting it right, It explains in a way why everyone thinks and act so different from one a other.

Ya well, he's a bit of a sore loser. Who am I kidding. A big sore loser.He has a hard time rising above his primal instinct of pride.

Ha!!! I sunk your battleship!!!

One theme I often run into with some members, is that, with our intelligence, humans can rise above instincts and emotions. But how often do we succeed? The ability dose not automatically guarantee that we do. Take smoking cigarets. For example.... How is that smarter then any other animal on earth? Based on this example we could argue that we are dumber. Our intelligence in this example has become more of a hinderance, then helpful. With so many different opinions from so many different people, How can we honestly say humans are smarter then the average animal and will rise above primal instincts? The majority of the time when faced with a life changing brilliant idea most of us completely dismiss it out of our primal instinct of pride for ourselves. Look at the idea of the world being round for example. How can we rise above our humble DNA when we can't even agree on what is the one foundation of thoughts we can all agree, to base our existence? Without a solide foundation on which to base our logical thoughts , our whole world views could be wrong and we wouldn't even know it. With so much variables between everyone's opinions, and no consensus on how to rise above our primitive selves, how can anyone claim that we have taken any conscious steps forward? If we have, maybe slightly but not in any extraordinary way. In my opinion. The idea of good and evil is for me a simple projection of what we perceive as good or bad to us at a instinctive level. That we have transformed that basic instict in a idea of ultimate good and ultimate evil doesn't impress me. It's like deciding the whole universe revolves around our instinct of good for us bad for us. Isn't that almost as intelligent as smoking cigarettes? If we are going to rise above our own stupidity, Then some kind of solide foundation has to be set. If we are to coincidently rise above our basic animal instinct, then we need a conscious logical foundation on which we can make intelligent decisions on and come to the right conclusion of the right decision to take, every time. With everyone yelling in every direction like we see on this forum, I can't honestly say we are close to achieving anything that resembles, humans rising above their primal animal instinct.

Sorry, misinterpreted "them" at the end of your post, Maybe it would be good to better define " them " at the end of your post.

But this is some real legitimate arguments based on solid intellectual grounds. I guess most people can't live with the idea they are wrong, so they rather stay stupid then acknowledge a new more intelligent way of seeing the world.

I can't agree with that. It's illogical too me.

In other word you have been destroyed. And have absolutely nothing intelligent to add.

Why is it we save the children and women first in a life boat if they are less valuable then men?

It's a self proving reaction from a feminist. Who fell right into her own trap.

I Warned you most wouldn't have the mental ability to understand. They have turned men dieing into it being worst for women because they have to live on with the pain lol. We are all born and raised to put women before men. We have the proof right in this thread. Millions of dead males = suffering for women at home lol.Well ya!!! They are dead, they aren't suffering anymore, It's worse to be a women. Lol

I rather have a parties leader chose how he wants his representative to act. They have elected him to lead them to a victory. That is his responsibility, to layout the plan on how to achieve it.

No surprise there. Anyone who has believed his whole life that they are a victim likes to have what they base their whole world on completely destroyed logically. The only thing left to do at that point is, most block their ears and start yelling , I'm not listening !!!! I'm not listening!!!! I'm not listening!!!! Or pull a fire alarm in this case.

Because he understands a lot of weight will be on how he answers. As someone conscious of the implication of making a mistake, he wants to have time to think throught how best to answer the question to give the least ammunition to others as possible to twist & manipulate his answer for their own purpose.All the Conservative Candidates are depending on him. He wants to win.

Yes because any women who questions why 97% of work related fatalities happen to males, and wonders why no one bothers to call a nation wide investigation on the reason why work related fatalities are happening disproportionately mostly to males is obviously a self hating women who dose't love herself.It has nothing to do that she has more empathy for males then the average women, who mostly don't give a crap about males. And are buzzy fighting for more women benefits and ignoring everything else because caring about males means other women will judge you as a self hating women.

Yes, lawful. As in the opposite of chaotic.

I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post. Thanks! You have given my a lot to think about. It explains everything in a very logical matter. I agree. I'm of strong belief that evolution has shaped our way of being more then anyone likes to admit. The resistance to entry is that it takes a lot of intelligence to explain and understand how. Your post is a successful attempt at it. I doubt that many have the mind to successfully understand.

It's quite lawful in my mind, your misunderstanding is what's leading you to your perception of chaos.You will have to unlearn to much. It will be impossible for you to ever reach such high levels of understanding. Like clothing, you have taken to many bad folds. Even a thorough ironing wouldn't suffice. It is hopeless. Stay in your ignorance, it is much safer there.

Yes I do not acknowledge your relativity of good and bad. It is insignificant to the universe . This is why God forgives you.