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Based on logic of human nature, well protected government workers with many benefits like payed sick days among other things will produce less in general then a work force who is easily held accountable for their poor performance. Go ahead disprove this logic.

I don't see the point, any research, stats, chart, can be manipulated to prove opposing views. Instead I choose to base everything on solid fundamentally logical foundations. Any work force that is so thoroughly protected like our government workers, will learn to manipulate the system for their own advantage, and will take advantage of that security at a higher rate then ,workers who faces constant chances of being held accountable and being sent home. It's simple human nature. If you need a cite for something as simple as this, I'm afraid you aren't worth wasting time discussing with. Sorry

Ok, how bout a cite that government workers work hard. It is common knowledge they are lazy as hell. I'm surprised you didn't know. But go ahead. Find us proof government workers produce more for less then private sector workers. Please and thank you.Oh boy, you really walked into that one. What a conversation indeed. Let's take some performance charts out and argu about how lazy government workers are. My guess is one hard worker could replace 4 government workers. And I'm being modest. Harper calls it cutting red tape. I just call it laying off useless people.

Harper has cut budgets to all federal departments for the last 10 years. He calls it cutting red tape. I call it cutting on lazy workers that do nothing all day. It's long over due and I'll keep voting Harper for the next 35 years if that's what it takes to ride the government of all those useless people sucking on our government tit, working 2 hours a day getting payed 40 a week.I live in Ottawa. I know many of them personally. They tell me how it is in their offices. It a embarrassment. Harper has given the order to do as much with less every year since he was elected. That's code talk for less workers doing the same amount of work as many useless ones

If the department are constantly unable to achieve goals set maybe we should start blaming the department. I mean. Two hours of work a person everyday is not enough when your paying them for 40 a week. Trim that fat slow government worker down.If you think throwing unlimited money at a department will help them achieve their goal. I'm definitely not voting for you

Well there is no use running a deficit on the immigration department right??? Harper gives them a budget and if they can reach their target with it too bad. Or are you suggesting we should run deficit on a federal department that lets in immigrants? Personally that sound really stupid. But I bet it's been done by the Liberals plenty of times.

Well the huge feminist lobby is in full momentum right now in Canada pushing their propaganda. There are no limits to the level of stupid they will twist & spin to get Harper out.

I am debating if the ability to admit we are wrong and openly admiting it is rising above ones own instincts . Or staying at the seen of a accident that you are at fault.

. To feed ones baby is still a instinct that you Breastfeed or give him a bottle, It's still based on the instinct of nurturing your child. I still see it as a action based on some kind of instinct behaviour. It's also based on our instinct to make things easier for ourselves. Humans instinctively want to make things as convenient as possible.Even if we have developed more efficient ways at providing for our basic instincts. Our instincts are still the basic needs being satisfied. We haven't evolved passed our instinct. We have only developed more efficient ways to satisfy them more quickly

I've only witnessed this on a forum once before. Thank you for giving me my second experience of this very rare phenomenon. This may very well be a example of a human rising above his own animal instinct.

What i really believe, is that it's impossible to grow above our evolutionary instinct. Our whole moral system is based on our instinct of what's good and bad for us. It's not superior intelligence, it's just the natural next step to our instinctual thinking. Hardly anything to be proud of having achieved. But I repetitively am reading posts, That we have the ability to rise above our instincts. My opinion is that we can't , and we won't. Because what some perceive as advance intellectual behaviour, is actually very instinctual and logicaly tied to our basic animal thoughts. I see us as having taken one small step forward by developing the intellectual ability to put ourselves in someone else shoes. And anticipating their reactions to a action we can produce.

Personally I'd rather stimulate our own population production. At least we could say something is made in Canada in comparison to nothing being made in Canada. I am, thanks.Now that I think about it. It really makes sense Christians are a pure consumer culture. We have been participating in brainwashing ritual consuming of our God every week for the last 2000 years. It's all very logical.

Personally I find the whole weekly ritual of consuming our gods body and blood very disturbing. It's much too cannibalistic for my taste.

I think that any intelligent person understands that some people are born in Canada and others where born elsewhere but migrated to Canada. These are facts. We have procedures that clearly define how one can become a citizen. We must have these things to control exploitation of our free services. Dose Tom not understand that not all people are as perfect intentioned and honourable as he think he is? Is he so naive to think that no one could want to try and get free health care by trying to exploit our kind innocents? I think Mr. Montclair is trying to play good old goody touchoo politics. And paint Harper in a negative way as intolorent. Tom is playing the bleeding hart card.

I think if we look at money as equating production, its easy to see a trend on the rise. The trend is that the difficulty of entry into business startups is getting higher and higher, with a huge initial investment in robotics and specialized tools to be competitive in today's market. I think this can be added into the equation as it is only the ultra rich who can afford these million dollar machines and facilities that can produce a product or service at such a fast pace, that he can compleat with other existing companies.

Harper has been cutting government spending for 10 years. Every government worker in Canada in every department is running scared of losing their job. This is people trying to protect their jobs. If I was working 2 hours a day for the last 20 years and now all of a sudden I actually have to work 8 hours. I'd be attacking Harper too. Every federal department has had their funding cut a little for the last 10 year. Especially this last year. Typical useless lazy worker trying to protect their jobs. Harper has made a lot of enemies within because he's trying to shrink government. So they are spinning it every way possible to get him run out of office. It's a normal human reaction to being forced to actually work, and fearing that your job is on the line.

Harper has lowered taxes for single income families like me. Since my wife makes next to nothing we are exempt of paying any taxes on everything Harper gave families.

I agree with you.The truth, is somewhere caught in between the two ideas. With both happening at the same time. I think that's why it's such a complex dynamic. And that's why, We have such absurd behaviour at times from so many individual humans. Drive in Ontario, and then drive in Quebec. Right away you see there is a difference. Or even New Brunswick. Look at construction from one side of the country to the next. In the west if one structural column is off from the plan. The common practice is to chip the whole thing out and re-pour it. This can cost a lot of money to do. For something that's only off by a few inches. When I look at the east of the country. Common practice is to modify and accommodate for the mistake. These are powerful insights into the subconscious minds of the people of different regions, as a collective. I also believe that it is possible to look at other humans and change these things. But I don't think it's as easy as it first sounds or appears. And the reason change is so difficult to achieve I believe, is because of this subconscious evolutionary instinct, level we have a hard time even acknowledging exists. Present active behaviours and situations are like a addiction.

I would be ready to lock them out, I'll educate my kids by myself. Eliminate all the taxes we pay for schools and I'm sure we're all better off. I'm more then willing to stop depending on the government to educate my children, it's not like they even do a good job, reletivly to how much they earn. If they have the power to strike, I also want the power to lock them out. Throw the lock on all schools tomorrow. Stop paying all teachers. With Internet , today . Teacher's no longer need to be essential. One person in Ontario is needed to email, daily lessons to all the kids in Ontario. Let those teachers sit at home a full year without pay. Then will negotiate a contract. Maybe. I tired of being held hostage every 4 years by the teachers. I want my government representatives to bypass the teachers so they no longer are required, and so no longer have the ability to hold us hostage. If you take the teachers combined salaries and use it to fund a bypass I'm sure all kinds of alternatives can be implemented with that kind of resources.

Yes, I agree. But like the point I'm trying to make that we are more closely related to how we behave due to our evolution. I also think that our societies are a perfect reflection of what we are as individual people. In other word, The change won't happen by simply looking at what others have done. I see what they have done as a reflection of who they are collectively and individually in a subcontious way, even tied to their basic instinctive evolution. There is a reason why we are the way we are and that our society is the way it is. If we want something to change, we, individually have to be the change. I believe that change has to happen within.

That's because your initial assessments of who and what I am were wrong. I just didn't want to waste my time trying to explain that to you.Based on my assessment of you it was likely going to be a big time sink explaining it to you, and amount to nothing. You know you'r very stubborn, don't you? I hoped that in time you would figure it out for yourself. Maybe your finally starting to see the light.i still remain very sceptical.

No. For equality of sexes we have to ether treat everyone as disposable or treat everyone like they are a princess.

After looking at the trailer, The opinion of it I had was , that Mr. Moore feels that the grass is greener elsewhere. I get the impression he is ungrateful for the things America has given him, and takes them for granted. That's what I see. Do other countries have different better ideas? All the time. What I understand more and more as I grow older, is these differences are more directly tied to physiological, weather, and the realities of each individual countries. We all have a limited amount of resources. And our reality may make it that we must prioritize one thing over a other. We could all do much better with unlimited resources.

Agreed, My opinion is, when looking to improve yourself even collectively you need to look within yourself, Not at what others are doing. It's not a competition on who has the greenest lawn.

It dose make him look a lot like if he rather be living elsewhere. A bit of a, grass is greener everywhere else but here kind of documentary.