Je suis Omar

USA history is rife with examples of USA policies of genocidal extermination policies against Native American populations. This thread is a place to collect those examples. The following describes the commonplace practice of how the USA attempts to make hallowed saints out of their most vicious government leaders.

That's a very childish response to what Marcus said. "I'm an advocate of justice, peace and humanity. Something Israel continues to get further away from. A look at maps from 1948 to the present clearly illustrates Israel's land grabs. The USA has taught them about the old American doctrine of Manifest Thievery, which has worked so well for greedy America.

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Of course you don't know what to say. Your reply speaks volumes about that. Last thing first. Your TIME article didn't describe a generous USA. Had you read it you might have realized that. The USA is constantly at or near the bottom of first world nations giving foreign aid. The vast majority of USA "aid" is military armaments and "aid" to support their band of brutal right wing dictators. When it comes to real foreign aid, the USA ties their "aid" to USA products (tied aid) and services which isn't aid at all. It's designed to strangle those countries that accept this "aid".

A cite is required. Do you have any notion of hypocrisy? You provide avid support for the USA, a group of terrorists who stole lands from Native Americans thru a policy of genocide, stole those same lands from the government of the day, another terrorist action. Then the USA went on a murderous rampage for over two centuries, but they're your kind if people. And this makes your mommy proud?

Yup, their lands. We have noted that you are an avid supporter of vicious war criminals and terrorists, Argus. That oughta make your mommy proud.

Jimmy Carter says the USA is the stingiest country in the world.

If that's what I was doing, you might have a point. But in that situation would it be any worse than all the folks who have turned murderous USians, George Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Condi, Kris Kyle, Tommy Frank and the millions of other war criminals and terrorists into heroes? Mr Khadr didn't invade a sovereign nation. In fact, there's nothing to suggest he's done anything wrong. Certainly nothing in your "sources". Don't you think it's rather telling about you that you offered those as reliable source information to support your fantasies?

Your source CBC:Ahmed Said Khadr was born in Egypt and moved to Canada in 1977. He married Maha Elsamnah, a Palestinian-Canadian. Together, the couple had six children. In 1980, Khadr travelled to Afghanistan and volunteered to fight against the invading Soviet Union forces. He is alleged to have met Osama bin Laden during this time period and reportedly became a founding member of al-Qaeda. Khadr was arrested in 1996 on suspicion of funding the bombing of the Egyptian Embassy in Islamabad. He sought help from Prime Minister Jean Chrétien, who raised the issue with the Pakistani government. He was later released. Following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Khadr was put on a list of suspected terrorists. In 2003, he was killed in a shootout near the Afghanistan border. ------------ Omar: Now that's proof that would stand up in any USA kangaroo court, drummindiver. Let's go take a peek at your other "source". TIME Magazine (a propaganda arm of the USA government) "In the words of Heather Barr of the Human Rights Watch, the country is a perfect case study of how not to give aid." So there you have it. drummindiver's sources. Jimmy Carter says the USA is the stingiest country in the world.

That's still fraudulent.

You say that because you are not of the millions that have died at the hands of the USA, a country that is fully the equivalent of Japan and Germany circa 1930 to 1945. You've had the propaganda pounded into your head. You've heard of the Rape of Nanking but never of the Rape of the Philippines. You've heard of the Holocaust but never of the myriad smaller USA holocausts. You've never heard, or you ignore, the millions slaughtered by the USA to advance its position of wealth.

Like the following fantasies: the USA is a rule of law country. The USA is a kind, benevolent nation. The USA is a free enterprise, capitalist country. The USA ... .

That's a dandy example of illogic, not to mention stilted language that is unbecoming of an editor who takes money for his "services".

I'm quite sure that I have never personally witnessed a more truly morally bankrupt statement. And you seem to revel in it.

The takeaway portion of this post, Boges, is your last sentence. You, and myriad others go on and on about how the USA was so totally justified in attacking Afghanistan "for 9-11". "It's the Muslim Radicals" ... . Consider, truly consider for a moment just how tired folks in the Middle East are from over half a century of British, then American predation on their lands, killing their people, installing and supporting dictators that tortured and brutalized those people. Y'all know this to be the truth but no one is willing to speak up about the elephant in the room. You have taken some halting half steps and for that I commend you. But again, why is revenge and retaliation deemed only the province of western nations? Especially when it has been the west that has done the most damage, killed the most people, put the most people under the thumbs of pliant USA dictators, stolen the most wealth, ... ? In any situation similar to this, we, left/right/center, would all be in complete and total agreement - "these people are delusional"!

I'm ashamed about what Canada has done, what Canada is doing. But I'm not running around defending the war criminals/terrorists. In the fullness of time, Boges, in the fullness of time.

From my reading, his father was running some charities aimed at helping people in that area. We know from the historical record that the USA wasn't doing that.

I don't find the "I am only supporting war criminals and terrorists to ensure my personal standard of living remains high" argument particularly compelling. You deny that you are supporting war criminals and terrorists then you offer up an excuse why doing so is a good idea.

Not until the Taliban refused Unocal's plan for a pipeline. Innocent Afghans ( or any other innocents ) dying has never been a concern for the USA. They were delighted that they could use Afghans as cannon fodder to "give the USSR its own Vietnam". You still haven't explained why you provide unqualified support for the world's leading war criminals and terrorists.

Now I'm not blaming you, Dre, but we keep on hearing these stories repeated with no proof.

Was Dillon Hillier "defending his home" from "hostile foreign army" when he went, sans uniform, to Iraq?

Still more, much more, of reducing things to the absurd.Why are you so intent on providing support and cover to war criminals and terrorists, Shady?

There were negotiations going on between the former close friends of the USA, the Taliban, and the USA. Negotiations that could have settled things without a whole lot of innocent Afghans dying. You seem to be awfully glib about people being murdered by war criminals and terrorists illegally invading their countries. Why? Why do you offer such unqualified support for war criminals and terrorists?

You expect a dictatorship that is in cahoots with the USA to piss off the USA. You don't know much about how the USA treats dictators friendly to the USA, do you?