Je suis Omar

From a number of reliable sources, drummindiver. Why do you ask? This one is from, "John Stockwell is the highest-ranking CIA official ever to leave the agency and go public. He ran a CIA intelligence-gathering post in Vietnam, was the task-force commander of the CIA's secret war in Angola in 1975 and 1976, and was awarded the Medal of Merit before he resigned."

So, msj, instead of refuting the evidence, the overwhelming evidence, that the USA is the biggest terrorist group/nation in the world, that the USA has committed war crimes against myriad nations around the world, you resort to the childish tactic of plugging your ears and yelling "la la la la la, I can't hear you!" Unless someone else from the peanut gallery provides you with an opportunity to snipe.

I just wonder how you, also, can ignore the slaughter of millions by the USA, OGFT.Have you no moral compass?

I just wonder how you can ignore the slaughter of millions by the USA.I also wonder how you can think that it is "pretty darn funny".

You have to think, Kimmy, instead of reacting in a knee jerk fashion, opening your mouth and saying the first inane thing that comes into your mind. You've done this a number of times, as have others, a quick snipe and then you disappear. "riots" - the euphemistically named "boston tea party" is a good example of a rioting people. The revolution against the British was a dictionary definition of terrorism. Do you see now how important it is to think before you speak? Would you like to continue to discuss its relevance? How, on the one hand, America exalts rioting and terrorism then, need I mention, hypocritically deplores it. Haven't you ever noticed how hypocrisy is also as American as apple pie?

You say "it might be because it's not that important.", Michael, attempting to downplay just how vitally important it is. NIST, like everyone with any knowledge of the issues, acknowledges that there was no fuel available that could produce temperatures high enough to melt steel. In contrast to what you said, quoted above, the link I provided said a great deal, of great importance. It refuted NIST's contention that the molten metal streaming from WTC 2, (just minutes before the collapse), was molten aluminum. It described how its color was not the color of molten aluminum. It then refuted another NIST contention that organics were mixed with the aluminum giving it the color NIST needed to maintain its fiction. It did this using a scientific method that was beyond the capabilities of the scientists at NIST, scientific experimentation. This "not that important" thing (can we say overwhelming understatement?) illustrates clearly that there had to have been another fuel source available to create molten steel/iron, because jet fuel and building contents were incapable of creating such temperatures. Stated another way; NIST's story, not to mention the entire official government conspiracy story, rests on office fires/jet fuel (and just office fires) for bringing down the three buildings. The presence of molten iron and molten steel tells us that all NIST's "science", like the 911"Commission" report, was not much more than hoohaw, shovelled far and wide to great depths. Why do you suppose it is that NIST failed to do the necessary, need I say, scientific experiments, really simple to do ones, to support their contentions? Is that indicative of science?

You've been reading memes from right winger websites.

I think that it is fair to say that Dr Jones's study has been peer reviewed a thousand to two thousand times. This is highly instructive, Michael, as to what has really gone on, what is still going on, in society at large and right here, at MLW. http://www1.ae911truth.org/en/affiliate-marketing-program/890-ae911truth-reaches-out-to-philosophers-and-engineers.html Contrast the above, Michael, where AE911Truth describes how it has been asking that the scientific process be followed, including its own theory, with the following, below, where we see that NIST has operated in a closed bubble. That is not anywhere close to science. (All bolding is mine)

I do visit <.gov.us> sometimes. Is that what you mean?Nevertheless, your sources for your "opinions" are scarcer than hen's teeth. Oh, by the by, did you know that the good guys, the USA, supported PolPot and the Khmer Rouge?

Why would the ole treaty breakers do anything like that. Remember the meme. They're rule of law.

That's not how it works in the USA.

You're hilarious, BD. Now you do your hypocrisy dance! You missed this one, below, one among many. "Are you now beginning to see that your blind faith in NIST is unwarranted?"

Thank you for the science lesson. You've gone from aluminum to a more careful description. Are you now beginning to see that your blind faith in NIST is unwarranted? Why would you have me steal from OGFT an opportunity for him to describe your ignorance? (again a non pejorative sense)

I wish I could agree with you, Poochy. That would then mean that these millions of people wouldn't have died at the hands of the USA. That hundreds of millions of people wouldn't have spent a century of lifetimes grieving for their murdered kin, wouldn't now be grieving, as they are doing in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Guatemala, Chile, Bolivia, Vietnam, Korea, and the numerous other countries where Uncle Sam has butchered innocents. Meet John Stockwell, one of the limited number of CIA higher ups who simply could not stand the lies, the senseless slaughter, the duplicity of successive USA governments. "John Stockwell is the highest-ranking CIA official ever to leave the agency and go public. He ran a CIA intelligence-gathering post in Vietnam, was the task-force commander of the CIA's secret war in Angola in 1975 and 1976, and was awarded the Medal of Merit before he resigned. Stockwell's book In Search of Enemies, published by W.W. Norton 1978, is an international best-seller." Here's but a small portion of his story. You can read it all and more at, http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/StockwellCIA87_1.html

So now it's a "substance". This is really funny. Your ignorance (non-pejorative meaning) is palpable, BlackDog. That would be because you fall all over yourself to trot it out and parade it so blatantly.

Droning on and on about these virtually nonexistent threats is obviously the greatest threat to the west. It allows unthinking, conceited people to become better sheeple. When they should be dwelling on the fact that their governments are scaring the shit out of them for nothing. But these rocket scientists miss that, forgetting that their same governments are responsible for the deaths of millions, for the destruction of hundreds of millions homes, lives and happiness. They forget that their same governments are responsible for terrorism that has been going on for over a century. Look at the big push to retaliate after 911. But these same sheeple can't seem to fathom that others might feel the same way. The depths of the delusion is phantasmagorical.

Don't you think a multi billion dollar award would go a long way to establishing a strong precedent that supporting war criminals is a bad idea?

Your sources continue to overwhelm, Argus.

The USA launched a war against Spain, with a lie, their usual modus operandi, and took those lands from Spain and the rightful owners. All under a pretense that the USA was advancing democracy and saving the oppressed. More of the usual USA lies. They slaughtered the very people who had mistakenly believed that the USA were kind, honest, benevolent folks who had come to liberate them. So started a century plus of subjugation under these grandest of hypocrites. Soldiers were commanded to turn the Philippines into a "howling wilderness", to slaughter anyone down to 10 years of age - another of those endearing American qualities that continue to this day, delighting in the murder of children.

BlackDog: What do those columms have to do with the substance seen in the photos/videos coming out of the side of the WTC? T ------------------------------------------ Perhaps, OGFT, you could help this young fella out with his confusion. That would be your first post in months with your "science".

Of course not, OGFT, you wouldn't want to lose someone willing to partner with you to not discuss the science. And notice that is all you have done since it was pointed out that your source was outdated and wrong. Not a peep out of you about the science - not there likely ever was. So, again, you take to lying to advance your "science". There are over 2300 hundred architects, engineers and scientists who have peer reviewed and done scientific testing. NIST won't allow peer review because they refuse to share their data. The data which produced computer simulations that looked nothing like the actual controlled demolition of WTC 7. NIST was asked to perform scientific testing and they agreed to, then never did. How long have you folks been trotting out NIST as a source?

See, I told you that you are ignorant about the history of the USA.

I don't quite understand what you are saying, "seeing as no other country did anything like that at that time, or since". That is just one of many instances, Poochy, in a long history where the USA has slaughtered millions.

How many years have you been believing and advancing NIST's unsupported theory, BD? Do you see any teeny flaws in your thinking there? Any teeny flaws in what NIST has done? I asked you to think about this notion of yours. Evidently that is beyond you. So I'll ask again. Try thinking about what you are advancing. You can of course, answer the questions above, or not, as is your usual tactic. Like here: "There is also the samples of steel beams/columns from WTCs1,2&7 that are melted. Had you watched the video I suggested you would have seen pictures of them." What of the samples of melted steel beams/columns, BD? Where did they come from?

that the molten metal pouring from tower 2 wasn't aluminum. Yes, there is, BD. That would be the experiment performed by Dr Jones. The one, really a very simple one, that the large number of scientists at NIST failed to perform. There is also the samples of steel beams/columns from WTCs1,2&7 that are melted. Had you watched the video I suggested you would have seen pictures of them. They are also readily available on the internet. There was no fuel available that had the capacity to melt those steel beams/columns. There is also FEMA describing these melted beams/columns. That leaves me wondering why people who purport to be interested in science are ignoring all this evidence. And engaging in tactics meant to divert away from this evidence.