monty16

Thinly veiled personal attack against me "AGAIN". Reported. I'm going to once again remind you that this isn't about me. Do you have anything to say about the topic of this thread? Are you able to comment on that without making your consistent personal attacks against me?

http://rt.com/usa/168704-russell-brand-fox-news/ Against Fox News of course but that being said, nearly half of Americans have no difficulty in the least with Fox News and it's message of hate. It just needs RT news to pick up on it.

I've respectfully requested of you to at least reference the section of the article. If you can't do that then I don't think I'll waste my time on paying attention to your complaints any longer. If anybody else has read b_c's link then could they refer to the applicable part?

Does that study make reference to medical bills as being a reason for bankruptcy? If so then could you point it out and save me the trouble of having to read the whole thing? Of course I recognize that some Canadians are claiming bankruptcy for other reasons but I'm not aware of hospital bills being one of them. Making a comparison between our countries could be a legitimate defence of your country but I don't think this one qualifies.

http://rt.com/business/168384-us-businesses-russian-sanctions/ Is this accurate or is it more exaggeration from RT news? Let's all risk our repuatation on making a prediction! But the bigger issue is, if there's going to be another cold war then is the US/Nato prepared for the possible repercussions of starting one? Has the US just gone too far now to continue to claim the high road? Can Russia claim the high road by acceding to the people of the Crimea demands to be a part of Russia? Is Russia actively involved with it's military in the Ukraine?

Americans are bankrupted by their medical bills. That includes even those who are insured because very little of the insurance being bought by ordinary Americans is going to cover the huge hospital bill. This isn't a fact that can be compared to Canada in any way. Allowing Americans to die for want of medical attention could approach the level of 'genocide' if it's not kept under control. Currently the number is certainly in the hundreds of thousands and if Obamacare doesn't succeed then it could very soon reach into the millions. I would suggest that it's mostly a 'racism' problem as the majority of people who are going without and dying as a consequence are black people. There is no will to change that in that country and a very large and loudly expressed will to stop it from ever changing for the better.

It is my opinion that "Zionist" is a properly descriptive term. To use the terms, "Jews or Jewish" and "Israelis" would not be proper in this instance. The Zionist entity in Israel is the real problem and they aren't the same as Jews or Israelis. If you don't understand that then I hope that is of some help. And then of course, I characterize Zionism as "evil". If you disagree then I would hope that you could do so with some substance. Please don't spam the thread with non-substance. Thanks!

http://ilawyerblog.com/us-army-sacrifices-military-career-of-911-masterminds-lawyer/ The link explains it all so all it needs is a sensible rebuttal. Is not, is not, is not going to do it. As with Neil Macdonald of the CBC, and other journalists who have spent enough time in ME countries, Major Wright was beginning to be turned simply by being immersed in the society. And that posed a huge problem for the US because his defence of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was becoming brilliant and a real challenge for the US hypocrisy. This is what happened to Macdonald and the reason why it was necessary to pull him out of Izrael. He was witnessing the Zionist's evil first hand. He became too smart to accept the lies any longer and so had to be replaced. Major Wright was likewise a danger to the US propaganda effort because he was building a case that was going to be honestly based on the fact that US aggression in the ME is what led to the 911 revenge attack. So they pretend that he needs to come back to the US for a social event of some sort? I mean, after all, being charged with something like 3000 murders? What motivated the US to do this when it's obvious that it's not going to pass muster in the eyes of the world? Is the counter-charge of 'revenge' starting to stick? Has the US just shown it's true colours too many times now and so it needs to get a strong conviction and a death penalty for Kalid Sheikh Mohammed? Discuss please and without the personal attacks on some people's opinions. I'm going to do my part by reporting even the slightest suggestion of that or of the usual spamming of the thread by people who are just not prepared to debate the issue because of their own ignorance. Thanks everybody for your cooperation. This smacks of the injustice that was evident in the Nurembourg trials, otherwise known as victor's justice.

You've already said that so please stop spamming the thread. Thanks.

Goofy will do for US apologists who can't come up with specific criticisms. My suggestion would be that you tell us what you think is goofy and we'll get into debating it. What? You can't do that because you would make a fool of yourself. And if you did that then would anybody continue to think that you're really not a precocious teenager but you're a genuine real expert after all? Trash talk is cheap.

Sorry for the typo but thanks for sticking around. It' reassuring to know that somebody with a bit of authority on this forum isn't in the West's pocket. I suspected that there was a force for good at work. And yes, of course they were lying and they knew that they needed to lie. It's just such a tragedy and a miscarriage of justice that they will never have to answer for their lies which led to the murder of hundreds of thousands.

Hey get this from the US media pretenders: ISIS supporters vow to avenge any US airstrike in Iraq! So that now leads us to believe that the US is not buddying up to ISIS. Or, it's just pretending to not buddy up. Stand on guard for me and tell us what it is in your expert opinions? I think your inrelligence is that which garden slugs substitute for intelligence.

That doesn't make sense Michael. I you want continue to debate the facts then explain. If that was your parting shot before you run away from the facts I've related then goodbye. Take the high road Michael and stick around. For the forum at least! It's so disheartening when one can't find the intelligence of a garden slug from the regulars.

Oh, you want to get into the personal attacks? Show us you have the balls to do it or maybe you should just moan and groan and keep it to yourself. Zero tolerance pal. So no matter how you try to hide it, I'm going to point it out every time. This one doesn't reach the level that I consider needs to be reported yet but it's close. Stop it now! Thanks!

Simply put, none of the US apologists are going to get a free ride as long as I'm around here.

I don't think you can say that they were wrong, I think they knew that they were lying to build a case. All indications point to that as opposed to being fooled by Iraq or really believing the WMD's existed. The US were in a panic to stop the inspections and the search for the missing WMD's. Now consider the repercussions if Russia had attempted to do the same thing with/to the UN! And consider that the US doesn't want to compare Russia's annexation of the Crimea after a referendum to do so, with the US crimes in Iraq. Because, the two aren't comparable!! No, of course the two aren't comparable. LOL

Good points! You're picking up on the tactics of b_c in his defence of the US. And every time he does it I tell him that quoting the wrongs of others doesn't square it for the US. In his case he's criticizing Canada because he thinks he can get away with it with me. So point 1. You haven't excused the US with anything you have said. point 2 which can be further discussed. Is Russia's or the Soviets involvement in Syria on the same level as a crime, compared to the US use of force and arming of revolutionary entities that are intent in overthrowing Assad's regime. Considering too that in one case it doesn't result in the slaughter of hundreds of thousands and the displacement of millions of refugees, while in the other case it obviously does. And is! What I'm saying is that I'm asking you to provide evidence of Russian force against Syria that did in fact cause so many deaths and suffering. I'll accept Afghanistan if you would rather make the comparisons there. Just try to understand that I'm not going to stand 'for' evil, no matter if it's even Canada that is responsible for it.

It still serves a purpose because many Nazis were executed for war crimes which are being repeated by the US today. Calley for example, walked after serving less than 1 year. We know that Americans will never have to stand in the dock at the Hague for those crimes against humanity but even so, they may be less inclined to repeat such crimes if we keep the truth in the spotlight. At worst, we have at least convinced them to hid their crimes against humanity by not allowing open reporting on their wars. Embedded media. But alas, some people are so immersed in the US evil themselves that they are able to persuade themselves to not consider how they have aided and abetted crimes that equal and exceed the crimes of the Nazis in many circumstances. Might makes right. Victor's justice. Me and you Shady, the rest don't seem to have a clue! Or maybe they're all haters?

Michael Harding, Here's my substance to prove that RT isn't in a different class from Fox news on the 'inside job' theories. I wonder if RT would go that far in condemning Russia with some conspiracy theory of the like? Critics Demand Resignation of U.N. Official Who Wants ... www.foxnews.com/story/.../15/...who-wants-probe-11-inside-job-theories 2008-07-15 · ... investigating theories that the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were an 'inside job.' ... FOX News Network, LLC ... . 9/11 conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories 2014-06-10 · ... the "inside job" theory was the subject of ... The "no plane theory," promoted by Internet videos like 911 ... on the Canadian website for CBC News: ... Terminology · History · Types of conspiracy · Theories · Cover-up allegations . Videos of fox news 911 inside job theory bing.com/videos 8:09 Conspiracy theory 9/11 Geraldo Riv… YouTube 1:19 911 Pentagon Conspiracy Theo… YouTube 1:48 Cornel West Embraces 9/11 T… YouTube 4:17 Jesse Ventura - TruTV Conspirac… YouTube . 911 inside job - Kevin Barrett on fox news - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NWFqVVRqSY By Basra C · 6 min · 46,133 views · Added 2006-09-06 911 inside job - Kevin Barrett on fox news Basra C ... . Did you just see Fox News say that 911 was an inside job ... answers.yahoo.com › Politics & Government › Politics Resolved · 9 posts · 8 total answers · Published 2007-07-04 2007-07-04 · Did you just see Fox News say that 911 was an inside job and explosives were used?? . LiveLeak.com - 911 - Top FBI man confirms "inside Job" www.liveleak.com/view?i=d1e_1290162954 Fox News on 911 being a inside Job.. ... Critics Demand Resignation of U.N. Official Who Wants Probe of 9/11 'Inside Job' Theories; Advertisers. Advertise on Liveleak . 911 whistleblower 911 inside JOb! - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwUCYC6zsx8 By Shujal Soljaboy · 5 min · 8,943 views · Added 2012-05-08 News Fox: A professor investigates 911 that it was An inside Job! . Former George Bush Chief Economist says, 911 Was an Inside Job www.liveleak.com/view?i=daa_1401298800 ... official to publicly claim that 9/11 was an inside job, ... Official Who Wants Probe of 9/11 'Inside Job' Theories; Fox News on 911 being a inside Job.. . 9/11 "Inside Job" - Conspiracy Theories - Reporter Fox ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQMeDDRFE4E By yudiweb · 5 min · 6,838 views · Added 2008-01-16 9/11 Inside Job - Conspiracy Theories, Fox News, ... 9/11 "Inside Job" - Conspiracy Theories ... 1:23:32 Painful Deceptions 911 Documentary by Eric ... --------------------------------- Considering that Fox news has a comparable crazed theory for us nearly every week, I would say that the biggest problem is that Americans have been propagandized into not accepting anything that is possibly red, commie, pinko, or otherwise would hurt their ears. It's just sad that so many Canadians are going along with it.

Now there's what I call substance Michael! Well done! And I would agree completely that the 'inside job' theories are ridiculous and have no place on a news outlet. They've certainly stooped to the level of Fox news even though thousands or maybe even millions of Americans would agree with them on it being an inside job. But Michael, stop before you go too far. It doesn't put RT in a different class from Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and the others you named. It merely points out that their conspiracy theories are Russia biased while the others are US biased. The proof of that is in knowing that the US media outlets knowingly accepted US propaganda lies that allowed the US to bomb Iraq. So I'm at least asking Canadians to criticize with some substance, both RT news and the US media. It's a totally valid request but I fear that most posters on this forum are not politically informed enough to even begin to do that. And so what is angering so many of them so much is that they hear the challenge and they're caught flatfooted. p.s. the Americans who won't accept some truths from RT are the same ones who don't speak out against the 'inside job' conspiracy theories. You and I both know why! LOL.

Some people will never see good even if it kicked them in the a-s. So if you want to see only hate then see the US hate that the US felt for the people of Iraq. And what's really telling about it is they still do. Even now as they have been proven to be the evil entity that went to war for phony reasons. The Nazis could learn something from the US on that one!

If I was criticizing the Nazis in the 40's then you would most likely be onside with me and helping out. If I was criticizing the US for slaughtering millions of innocent people in Vietnam and Cambodia then some Americans would even be helpful with that effort. Just because I'm criticizing the US for their wilful deceit of going to war with Iraq twice and slaughtering millions of innocent people, doesn't mean that my comments are hateful or incite hatred. It means that they are getting to Americans. And some Canadians too because some of my fellow Canadians still don't understand the truth! Ease you pain and come to terms with the truth. Help me in my efforts and you could be a part of preventing that country from getting away with it again! If there are any others who don't understand this then just ask for help. This isn't rocket science folks!

I would suggest that there is hardly a credible US news source that 'is' giving us the straight goods. Certainly CNN and CBS have both lost credibility with their lying and twisting of the facts in favour of US propananda efforts. And as for MSNBE and Fox News, no thinking person would even accuse either of them as being anything other than entertainment for the shallowest of minds. So what about Fox news? Does Fox news make up ridiculous stories? Lies? Propaganda?

You rebut nothing RT says because you don't understand what they're saying. nuff said. nuff time wasted on that.

So is that the depth of your substance? Is it that you really don't understand anything about world politics? Come on friend, show us your stuff and tell us what you find so wrong with RT's analysis of the situation.