OftenWrong

So you admit that you're just here for the trolling, little flea.

Well I see you're still here, still trolling. I guess the mods like your style.

I suspected it was a mistake to re-engage discussion with you, and I was right.

Nonsense. No one is getting smacked, stop being so defensive. I left the door open for you to discuss elsewhere when I said "I'm not going to discuss it further HERE." You missed that.

All North Korea has to do is stand down and join the rest of the world, and everyone would be glad about that. Except of course the Chinese. So North Korea has no self determination. But this is off-topic. As I look up at the address bar, the topic is Nationalist Groups in Canada. So rather than ruin the thread I won't discuss that further with you here. That's how we should do things, out of respect for others in the forum.

You mean North Korea.

If you could be more specific about what the problem is, I might be able help you.

There were altercations happening all over the place. Fights broke out in separate areas. Certainly the Antifa also came to fight. If you dont think so then there's little more I can discuss. And what does Islam now have to do with this? Aren't you committing the same offence you once complained about to me, your bus-riding thread in which I mentioned Islam, that time when you insulted me in a PM? Didn't you just do the same damned thing? If you really think this forum has a minority of "normal" right wingers and is not representative of what is out there, then you are utterly beyond hope to have a reasonable discussion with.

I try not to "believe" anything unless there's some evidence. That's opinion. I expect most CEO's listen to advice. That doesn't mean they have to follow them. The good ones listen, then make up their own minds. If I were president, I'd pray that I not have to be president during a time when there's a Kim Jong Un with nuclear weapons. It's possibly the most serious emergency that we've faced in many decades, on the level of the US/ Soviet confrontation in Cuba. But if I were president today, I might ask if there's any point to trying diplomacy when NK makes it clear that's not on. I might be inclined to think, a stupid dog can't be reasoned with, it only understands aggression. But do you get just how dangerous that thinking is? Ever been involved in a situation you can't ignore, can't get out of?

Trump presented another option. He advocated heavy sanctions, not war. It was his move to make.

I wish I could help you little fella.

Kim made threats and showed his missiles, Trump made counter threats. If you want to pick it apart like that, it's up to you. No sensible president of any country would allow their citizens to be threatened with nuclear annihilation and sit quietly doing nothing. Now if you wish you can show me how you write off the time when Kim said he would launch 4 missiles toward Guam, but after threats by Trump Kim appears to have stood down, at least for now.

Like I just posted to Micheal: "Racism is evil -- and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans. Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America," Trump said in response to the attacks in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend. The alt-right were not the only violent individuals there, why shouldn't Antifa hold some responsibility? They showed up looking for a fight, not just protest with words. Furthermore, show me anyone here who is defending fascists or thinks that we shouldn't protest racism? Peaceful protest. What makes you perceive that all non-liberals are the next best thing to Hitler? Do you not get that the attitude that the alt-left is above responsibility, that all on the right hold monstrous views to be shunned, ridiculed, hated, fired, is every bit a part of the problem that leads to our undoing? Why has everyone become so unreasonable these days?

We can debate back and forth about Trump actually giving comfort to white supremacists, but I cannot agree whatsoever on your comment about North Korea. They've just crossed an important nuclear milestone. Someone threatens to burn your country to the ground, then develops the weapons and method of deployment to be able to do so. I'm sure you're aware of it, so what leads you to make a statement like this? On the other point, copied from CNN- "Racism is evil -- and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans," Trump said in response to the attacks in Charlottesville, Virginia, over the weekend. "Those who spread violence in the name of bigotry strike at the very core of America." Not good enough? Comfort to White Supremacists?

Argus said so? Well, I guess that proves the conservative viewpoint. We are sadists who have no empathy and find hardship of the poor acceptable. More so than liberals. And we don't mind if a protesting girl gets run over by a car. Serves her right, eh Argus?

Are the authorities in Finland calling this an act of terror?

America, and in fact all of the west is now in a state of crisis. It's not just a USA problem. Our adversaries the Russians, Chinese, Islamacists are laughing their asses off. They're more than happy to assist us on our way to hell.

You really didn't need to add this garbage to make your point. Isn't there enough hyperbole in the forum already about what others "probably" find acceptable?

"Unite the Right had a legal permit to demonstrate, however BLM and Antifa did not, and they started the violence. If Antifa and [Black Lives Matter protesters] didn't show up, Unite the Right would have finished their demonstration and went home and no one may have been killed or injured. The violence that was started by the left has to take some responsibility." - Harry Houck, a law enforcement analyst for CNN . Washington Post

A lot of what we hear being SAID about him is rhetoric. It gets harder and harder to discern actual stupidity from the fake news being spread. If you were to actually list real things he's done or said that are truly "offensive", not just the opinions and exaggerations of what other people think, you'd come up pretty short. Most people don't have time to filter through the noise, which has now become practically impossible. Ironically we live in this wonderful age of information, and most of the time we use it to confuse each other and tell lies.

Trump's most important contribution as president: anti-globalization.

Yup. Take a canon and blast the faces of Mt. Rushmore. Because what a buncha racists they were...

Extremists are the ones who want to shut down the discussion.

What they want to do is erase history, and destroy a culture.

Complete rubbish. Your logic amount so the reasoning, "let's go beat some people's brains out, because they were seen in public with the KKK or Nazis. Popular opinion will support us". Do you get the reason why vigilante justice is unacceptable, and a crime? No matter how repugnant you might find their opinions, you are not entitled to take the law into your own hands.