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You really are stupid. I mean, world-class ignorant. You actually went back to drag this up again... Once again, Natural Gas Turbines do not have magic pipes that have the perfect amount of gas available to them at all times... they use underground and above-ground storage to meet peak and seasonal demand... They are not running at 100% all of the time nor could they as if they had an infinite supply of gas from a magic pipe. Natural gas-fired combustion turbines are generally used to meet peak electricity load https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=13191
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Yet that's basically what you do. You only come here to throw insults and attack people and you literally do it year in and year out. You're talking about yourself, I don't know if you've realized that.
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Well at least you've admitted how stupid you are The vast majority of the world's energy is stored in exactly that fashion right now. Vast majority of it is already in storage tanks, the tanks are not an alternative to batteries, batteries are an alternative to the tanks. And I love that you think hydrocarbons is some sort of fake term DERP THERE"S NO SUCH THING AS OIL OR PETROLIUM!!! DERP!!!!!!!! This is insanely simple and somebody in grade 3 could understand it. The amount of energy you can store in the form of chemical fuel per dollar is extremely higher than the amount of electricity you can store for the same dollar in a battery. Like thousands of times higher At best batteries can provide a small secondary benefits to a power grid but they cannot replace the current convention which is to store the energy chemically in cheap easy to build tanks And until the day comes that you can store electricity in batteries or something similar as cheaply and as plentifully as you can with chemical energy then solar and wind can be nothing more than supplementary energy sources at best There's nothing complicated about that, you twist and turn and try and pretend that's not the case but your own article proves it's true as I have already shown above
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Why do I need to explain anything? That has nothing to do with your ignorance of underground gas storage, then your being a coward and running away, then your dragging it back up here because you wanted to change the subject from your ignorant comments on Iran... to once again proving you are a dishonest, cowardly POS in lying about it, making up more crap, and now playing this dumb game.
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You're projecting again kiddo the problem with you is that every one can read the thread and see that it was you behaving that way. So you're fooling no one but yourself. No that's not what happened at all. What happened is exactly what I said happened. I said battery storage only allows solar to be a secondary power source, you can't store enough power in batteries to replace on demand generation from non-renewables other than hydro which isn't available in most places I then provided a ton of information about the costs and capacity for these installations improved that it didn't even remotely come close to what was needed and cost a vast amount of money I then pointed out correctly that this meant it was going to be radically cheaper and more secure to have oil storage rather than battery storage and you will never replace fossil fuels until you can change that, unless you go nuclear You then had a meltdown and insisted that battery storage was both cheap and small and perfectly good and way better cost wise than chemical storage. Which is stupid Right now for for any given amount of electrical capacity it is thousands of times cheaper and easier to store chemical energy versus electrical energy and until that changes chemical energy will need to be a major part of our energy grid Although I certainly understand you lying about it trying to rewrite what she said given how stupid it turned out to be Your article proves conclusively that battery storage is inefficient and expensive and could only provide supplementary energy. Cry harder little boy
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Disgusting Erica Kirk Attack
CdnFox replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Oh, I'M the minion now Can't evne keep your story straight for 2 posts Go and change your diapers kid, you stink -
Reading your usual biased nonsense and have to comment, and ask; Comment....Trudeau spent more on our military in both dollars and as a percentage of GDP than Harper did. Lose the world has ended BS because of the last 10 years will ya. Comment... You just complained about the lack of military pending and now you're complaining about spending. You should probably decide on one or the other, unless complaining about both is more fun. Ask... What social programs have been cut to fund military spending?
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Disgusting Erica Kirk Attack
LinkSoul60 replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
You're a minion Kiddo, and tiring after too long... Ciao -
Disgusting Erica Kirk Attack
LinkSoul60 replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Nothing to bob and weave about. You digressed to something about binary thinking, which is par for the course when things fall flat. It seems to be a forum phenomenon that only conservatives know whats really going on, and the rest of us are just far too gullible because we all watch CBC and go to Pride Parades. -
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We went over it already. Can you even explain why you were babbling about “underground storage” on that thread?You can’t I posted an article about a new state of the art battery installation and then you dummies went off on a pointless tangent. I have responded in that thread where this discussion belongs.
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Now you have switched from talking about generating electricity during peak hours to storage during “seasons” and from on site storage at plants to storage in “caverns”. Why? This has nothing to do with batteries or anything on this topic but you are floundering for a point. Here you have lost the point. Remember your original claim was that plants have underground storage so they can generate more electricity because not enough comes through thenoiep during peak times whinis a ridiculous statement. And then you went on this absurd straw man argument about pipes aren’t magical. To reiterate all the power generated at gas plants comes from the pipeline that feeds the plant. Storing has on site where thatbis even a thing doesn’t make the plant produce more power. That is what we are talking about here. How to supply more electricity during peak hours What I said is factual. Gas plants don’t run on LNG or whatever other word he flounders for. OBVIOUSLY Natural gas gets liquified its literally what LNG stands for and LNG gets stored but that is competing irrelevant to this discussion Gas plants don’t run on LNG and they don’t store it for extra peak power as an alternative to batteries. You and @CdnFox have failed to articulate how storage of “gasoline”/“LNG”/“petrochemicals”/“oil”/“petroleum products” (or whatever the hell else he hilariously tries to call it) is somehow an alternative to batteries whether in “barrels” or “underground storage” or “geological features” or “caverns” or whatever else. Batteries exist so your EXISTING GENERATORS can generate overnight and supply the next day for example - nothing to do with “seasons” or transporting energy to Europe or any of the other none you desperately flinging at the wall and hoping it sticks.
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Maybe, but spending your life online shouting thousands and thousands of insults every year on an internet forum doesn't strike me as a happy and enjoyable experience...more like the street addict getting a fenty hit. 🤷♂️
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Poilievre vs Carney: Critical Issue
LinkSoul60 replied to August1991's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
NB absolutely gets equalization payments, so you benefit. I'm not sure why Quebec receives more, but will assume it has to do with the fact they have far more people than NB. I'm in BC which receives none. My life is still the same...but maybe now I can separate on my property because I haven't been treated fairly? Doing more harm than good is a matter of opinion. Some provinces in Canada don't have the ability to generate as much revenue as others. That said.... I've never put too much thought into it. You're talking about a West East pipeline. Quebecs the problem aren't they? Nothing pulled out of my áss with the AB stats. The stats I saw was ~27% for the smaller group of unhappy fools who wanted to separate because their choice of party didn't get elected federally. The large majority may be unhappy with past or current governments, but they're still Canadian and prefer to stay that way. Whatever, can't please everyone. But f you saw it on CBC, how do you know it's true? -
Here you are bullshitting about “underground storage” at gas plants to provide some kind of peak electricity demand. Extra gas doesn’t make the gas plant put out more electricity. Of the plants that have on-site storage it’s just to bridge an unexpected brief disruption to the pipe not so the plant can go into turbo mode during peak hours.
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No that’s you and especially User. So desperate to “nuh-uh” whatever was last said you’ll go down any rabbit hole no matter how far it takes you from having any point Not at all, and this just proves my point above. What happened was I posted an article about a new state of the art battery storage site and you replied to it with some nonsense about the money would have been better spent on storing “barrels of gasoline”. “Storing chemical energy” as you are now calling it has nothing to do with the topic. It doesn’t add electricity to the grid unless you also build new power plants to burn that stored “chemical energy” and the the plants are all fed by pipelines theres no “storage” problem or shortage of “chemical energy” for our gas plants that needs solving. You fundamentally don’t understand what you’re talking about and you are just shooting in the dark desperate to have some kind of point. LMAO THE GIBBERISH CONTINUES! So now cities have extra “generators” that run on “oil” and are just lying around unused and we can “put a hose into” the “oil” to power cities during peak hours? Stop. Just stop. You really are sounding so dumb I am embarrassed for you. Let me just clean up your gibberish into something intelligible since there are no gas plants just sitting around unused waiting for gas, what you are advocating for is building more gas plants. Building the plant is where the costs come from , not the cost of storing the gas that feeds the plant and doesn’t even require much storage. So as I attempted to get through your thick skull in that thread building multimillion dollar gas plants just to run them a for few hours a day when electricity is most expensive to produce makes that electricity very expensive 1) you are failing to include the cost of extract ling and converting that “barrel of oil” into an actual fuel (spoiler alert power plants don’t run on “oil”) and then to build the power plant that will burn that fuel, plus there is the cost of the fuel itself which you might have heard some incompetent and crooked republican president has recently made extremely expensive 2) you are comparing apples and oranges a battery doesn’t generate electricity it stores existing electricity for later, allowing you to convert your “barrel of oil” (or whatever generation source is most convenient or affordable) to electricity when its cheapest and then supply it to the grid later when its most expensive. The whole point of a battery is so you Don’t have to generate electricity on demand, you supply it on demand but you intentionally generate it when it’s not demanded, from any source you wish. 3) what is a “similarly sized battery” in your statement ? Like are you talking about a battery that is the same physical size as a “barrel of oil”? That seems like pretty ridiculous statement. Especially since as I pointed out no power plant burns “oil” and natural gas isn’t stored in “barrels”. 100 MW of gas powered electricity is the same as 100Mw of battery-supplied electricity is what you don’t seem to get. For peak hours electricity usage The cost of the battery storage is less than the cost of a new “peaker” plant AND the cost of generating the electricity with a battery is lower because it can be generated off peak from existing generation instead of during peak. So enough of your gibberish and bullshit
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Poilievre vs Carney: Critical Issue
LinkSoul60 replied to August1991's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
If you look at Carney's approval ratings, it appears that it's more than just liberals who have moved on. Do what you got to do though if complaining about Trudeau makes you feel better. I don't think I was 'complaining' about job losses and tariffs, but was definitely complaining about the guy most responsible for those job losses and tariffs. Huh... what does this mean? "job losses are the direct result of liberal inaction on the tariff file". Not following that...what liberal inaction leant itself to 25% - 50% tariffs? We've beat this one to death. You're of the opinion we should turtle and give Trump what he wants because 'we haven't carried our weight'. I'm in the camp that we don't agree to a deal unless it benefits us, regardless of how long it takes. We agree to disagree... I'm wondering though if you ever see or listen to Trump. Anyone with an ounce of common sense has figured out Carney is dealing with a petulant man child who has no idea what he wants, and generally influence by the last person he talks to. It is what it is... wait him out if that's what it takes. You say recruitment is not at a 30 year high but send me a link saying it is. What is the problem... the more recruitments you get the more will fail, and the more will pass. I'll assume it's always been that way. Why is recruits not being able to get through basic training a liberal problem? Seems to me that's more on the individual and parents rather than any political party. There's a few choices... lower the basic training standard, train the basic training applicants, or keep the same standards and better market the military as a top of mind choice for a younger persons career path. -
Child Smugglers Indicted
gatomontes99 replied to gatomontes99's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
65,000 kids called a hotline, asking for help. Only 1 person was assigned to answer the phone and follow up. If you voted for Biden, you did this. -
Trump Rings the TACO Bell... Again.
Legato replied to John Johnston's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Why the self portrait? -
Have you been in a coma the past year and a half? No social programs have been cut. 1) the whole point is to be LESS dependent on USA not even more dependent 2) That would be even more expensive than a mixes fleet Where do you get off claiming offsets only enrich liberal voters? Rhey are all political buys when you get down to it. Even in the US it is highly political: which prototypes get selected for production, how many are produced, where the components come from. USA is not the perfect meritocracy you think it is.
