bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 Somehow Vietnam, Israel, Granada, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Balkans, and even Libya come to mind... What did I miss? Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Lebanon, Angola, etc. Seems one gets a very limited view at any give TIME looking thru a periscope, eh... No...this is precisely why I know more than you do concerning UK support and the Falklands War. Sorry, been to both, Cabbage and Garburator, no simularity at all... Commies don't care! Not really... Still as irrelevent to this thread as the first TIME you mentioned it to DISTRACT from this thread... ...and it worked. Rubbing your nose in PM Martin and Liberal Party complicity in Libya was an obvious rejoinder. If you think you can hide over here in the "US Politics" area you are quite mistaken, rookie. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 In Canada's case this would be to stay at home and mind our own business. Further to that however we should suspend all trade with other countries that don't, including our allies. Edited to add; Especially our allies. Yeah right. We're going to destroy the Canadian economy for the actions of others in which we have little to no control over. That's the most retarded thing I've seen posted in a long time. Quote
Shady Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 OH noes, not the 'But Canada' bit again .... oh noes, you are hurting our poor little Canadian egos!!! Yeah, just throwing it back in our face eh? You seem extra bitter today. If the truth tastes extra bitter. So be it. Deal with it. Quote
GWiz Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Posted March 20, 2011 Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Lebanon, Angola, etc. Thanks... I knew you'd come through for me... Even if it makes you out a liar... If you think you can hide over here in the "US Politics" area you are quite mistaken, rookie. Don't you feel ashamed being forced to admit to being a liar by a mere "rookie"? Glad we finally agree that the US is damned if it does, and damned if it doesn't, exactly as I stated in the first place... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GostHacked Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 If the truth tastes extra bitter. So be it. Deal with it. Unlike BC_2004, I am aware of Canada's shady history, but it's used as some kind of weapon against posters who at least try to stay on topic. Most of us can see through it. I think it's more of a personal struggle within BC_2004, that can't even recognize his own country's mistakes without pointing the finger to the north, which he claims Canada as insignificant in world affairs, but never misses an oppourtunity to get his digs in on. An it's only select posters, never does that with your posts. No idea why. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) ...Don't you feel ashamed being forced to admit to being a liar by a mere "rookie"? Glad we finally agree that the US is damned if it does, and damned if it doesn't, exactly as I stated in the first place... Not at all....it is always great fun to demonstrate the laughable positions of some sanctimonious Canadians when they strive to opine on American interests, American policies, and American actions. The US would rather be damned....than be irrelevant. Edited March 20, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 Not at all....it is always great fun to demonstrate the laughable positions of some sanctimonious Canadians when they strive to opine on American interests, American policies, and American actions. The US would rather be damned....than be irrelevant. But that is why the US is irrelevant. Quote
GWiz Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Posted March 20, 2011 The US would rather be damned....than be irrelevant. That's what I like about you my friend... You're totally consistant... You want it both ways every TIME... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Shady Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 I'm still trying to figure out the thread title "Will Ghadaffi bring down the US?" How exactly will he accomplish that? And how exactly is the situation in Libya an exclusively American issue? Other than for rabid anti-American Americanophobes of course. This may be the stupidest thread in the history of this forum. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) That's what I like about you my friend... You're totally consistant... You want it both ways every TIME... US policy feels the same way....may as well do as we please...because people like you always want it both ways.... on our dime. You remind me of the little kid who shoots off his mouth because "Big Brother" has his back. "Get Ghaddafi"...yea...you and what army? The American one, of course. Chretien and Dallaire tried that in Rwanda...OOOPS! Edited March 20, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GWiz Posted March 20, 2011 Author Report Posted March 20, 2011 US policy feels the same way....may as well do as we please... Of course... Why wouldn't you? Which of course brings up the real quandary the world, and the US now has to face... What happens if at the end of the day Ghaddafi remains in place and a drawn out civil war grips Libya? After all there is no UN will or authorization to remove Ghaddafi, only to prevent him from slaughtering his own people... If it were up to me, which it's not, I'd "take him out" along with the rest of his family and regime, but then I'm not nearly as "peace loving" as Americans and some Canadians are... He's fooled the US and the rest of the world before... A civil war right between two nations trying to find their way after the ouster of two Dictators, namely Egypt and Tunisia, finding themselves on either side of a warring Libya, yet dependant on Libya's oil... A somewhat interesting scenario don't you think? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) Of course... Why wouldn't you? Which of course brings up the real quandary the world, and the US now has to face... What happens if at the end of the day Ghaddafi remains in place and a drawn out civil war grips Libya? Nuthin' that hasn't happened already...that's what happens. After all there is no UN will or authorization to remove Ghaddafi, only to prevent him from slaughtering his own people... He can still "slaughter" them anyway. If it were up to me, which it's not, I'd "take him out" along with the rest of his family and regime, but then I'm not nearly as "peace loving" as Americans and some Canadians are... You're right....it is not up to you, nor do you have the means to do so. You can only chant from the anti-American peanut gallery. He's fooled the US and the rest of the world before... But not Canada....no siree...Paul Martin knows a good deal. A civil war right between two nations trying to find their way after the ouster of two Dictators, namely Egypt and Tunisia, finding themselves on either side of a warring Libya, yet dependant on Libya's oil... A somewhat interesting scenario don't you think? Nope....just another day in the 'hood. Israel has lived this way for decades. Edited March 20, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Yeah right. We're going to destroy the Canadian economy for the actions of others in which we have little to no control over. No, we're going to be true to our fighting Canadian spirit, make some sacrifices in the name of fighting tyranny and tell those who'd rather support it to go piss up a rope. That's the most retarded thing I've seen posted in a long time. Really? Try this on for size, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms should read Whereas Canada is founded upon principles recognizing that Virtue Trumps Economics. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ToadBrother Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Really? Try this on for size, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms should read Whereas Canada is founded upon principles recognizing that Virtue Trumps Economics. Nothing trumps economics, I'm afraid. Anybody who thought that ended up starved to death. Quote
eyeball Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Nothing trumps economics, I'm afraid. Anybody who thought that ended up starved to death. Yep, and the conundrum inside the riddle is that economics dictates we grow without limit. The result is the same, damned if you do, damned if you don't I guess. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
GWiz Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Posted March 21, 2011 As it pertains to this thread having an unstable Libya right in between two emerging "democratic?" countries that just had their own "peaceful" revolutions is kinda bad in my view... Especially when those two countries are dependant on Libyan Oil as they are... I think this will be a very interesting TIME in the world all things considered... - "May you live in interesting times, often referred to as the Chinese curse, is reputed to be the English translation of an ancient Chinese proverb and curse, although it may have originated among the English themselves (or Americans). It is reported that it was the first of three curses of increasing severity, the other two being: 2. May you come to the attention of those in authority (sometimes rendered May the government be aware of you). This is sometimes quoted as May you come to the attention of powerful people. (Alternately important people.) 3. May you find what you are looking for. This is sometimes quoted as May your wishes be granted." - I've always wondered if recessionary TIMES and inflationary TIMES can exist at the same TIME together... I think we're about to find out... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 No, we're going to be true to our fighting Canadian spirit, make some sacrifices in the name of fighting tyranny and tell those who'd rather support it to go piss up a rope. So why have we not invaded the likes of China because of their tyrannical rule? Really? Try this on for size, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms should read Whereas Canada is founded upon principles recognizing that Virtue Trumps Economics. It is an act of war. Was there any formal declaration of war made in Canada or the parliament? No? Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 So why have we not invaded the likes of China because of their tyrannical rule? I will assume your statement is rhetorical so I will ask, because one is not viable, we should attempt none? It is an act of war. Was there any formal declaration of war made in Canada or the parliament? No? Not needed. It was made at the UN. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
ToadBrother Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Not needed. It was made at the UN. Indeed. I think people are pretty confused here. For instance, there was no declaration of war against Iraq in 1991. Quote
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) I will assume your statement is rhetorical so I will ask, because one is not viable, we should attempt none? Never change M. Dancer, never change. Not needed. It was made at the UN. Ahh so we are no longer a sovereign nation in which we make our own decisions? Nice to know. Edited March 21, 2011 by GostHacked Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Indeed. I think people are pretty confused here. For instance, there was no declaration of war against Iraq in 1991. ...or against Serbia in 1999. Hell, there wasn't even a UNSC resolution! Kids! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Ahh so we are no longer a sovereign nation in which we make our own decisions? Nice to know. Ahh...so you think we didn't make a decision... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 ...or against Serbia in 1999. Hell, there wasn't even a UNSC resolution! Kids! Or Korea.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
GostHacked Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Ahh...so you think we didn't make a decision... According to you, there was no need because the UN made up our minds for us. So which is it M. Dancer? And that was exactly to be debated this week in the HOC. So no, we had not made the decision yet. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/03/21/pol-libya-debate.html Canadian CF-18 fighter jets flew their first mission to enforce a UN no-fly zone over Libya Monday, as debate on Canada's role in the military intervention was expected to get underway in the House of Commons.The CF-18s, which flew out of a base in Trapani Italy, did not participate in a bombing mission, instead serving as armed escorts for fighters of another nation that conducted the bombing. But Canadian planes are expected to begin bombing missions as soon as Monday night. Defence Minister Peter MacKay was expected to lead off the debate in the House of Commons, but its start time was delayed by other House business. Quote
ToadBrother Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 Ahh so we are no longer a sovereign nation in which we make our own decisions? Nice to know. You do realize, I hope, that the whole point of the UN is as a venue to mediate disputes and, if action is necessary, to get wide-based approval for that action. The point is to avoid unilateral declarations of war. Quote
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