Cop , punches child in face and peppersprays her

[CLRV]

Q: How many cops does it take to beat up a 15-year-old girl?

A: None. She fell.

But seriously folks... After watching this, I'd have to say the cop did his job right up until the end. This "punch to the face" business is overstatement writ large. It was a simple bop on the beezer; more of an attention getter and surely not enough to do any physical damage. An attention getter, if you will, and certainly an adequate response to what was unquestionably an assault. If it were my kid, I'd be asking her did I raise her to be a fool. You don't initiate violence with cops. You just don't.

IMO, it was the pepper spray that went over the top. That was just pure spite. You could see it on his face. Up to that point he was doing quite well at a difficult and unenviable task.

[geoffrey]

Kid is 15, she knows better. If someone bit me like that, I'd punch 'em.

What a stupid kid. I hope this isn't a reflection on the American education system. And I really hope the kid was on drugs or something.

I've never seen such a stupid person in my life. If I were in that situation, I'd have shut my mouth and sat in the car and got drove home by the cop.

--

P.S. Who knows what the hell such a rabid freakshow has in diseases? I'd be mighty pissed if someone like that bit me. I admire the officers restraint.

Edited October 6, 2007 by geoffrey

[Guest American Woman]

OK, well now that I am over being dismayed at poster responses, inc, an intent to further abuse.

This is a child , who was stopped for allegedly being out past curfew.

Regardless of what I think of the curfew issue.

Why wasn't the child simply brought home to the responsible adult?

The officer could have

1) offered to drive her to ensure her safe arrival, then talked to the parents or

2) he could have drove along beside the child to ensure her safe arrival, then talked to the responsible adult.

Since she was a minor, it, to my mind was an issue to be brought up to the adults who are responsible for this child.

Because I am definitely of the opinion, that parents/legal guardian are the most suitable/desirable authorities for their child, not a police officer.

I do not think it is obvious she was resisting arrest, is she even mature enough to think that, "I am going to resist arrest". Was that her intent, or was she simply scared?

Either way, she should have been safely brought home, if the issue was, really, what the officer said it was (out past curfew), and the curfew issue discussed with the responsible adults.

see that is what makes the most sense to me, cooperation between parental authorities and the police, to ensure the best outcome for the child.

But hey, she's apparently a 'whiny brat" who deserves further beatings?

She's a child who broke the curfew law. Have you looked into the circumstances of the situation at all or are you just assuming a 15 year old girl is an innocent victim of police brutality by the mere fact that she is 15? You do realize 15 year olds are capable of carrying a gun, being on drugs, doing all sorts of terrible things-- such as the Columbine shootings.

The officer was "responding to a 911 call about a suspicious couple walking the area of 24th Street and Boston Avenue with full garbage bags," so there had been a 911 call placed and the officer responded. The call came at 1:50am. What is a 15 year old girl doing walking the streets at 1:50am?-- carrying a bag full of clothes with the price tags still on? So she was stopped for more than violating curfew.

And according to the police report: "Gilroy dragged the girl to the front of his car, dodging her kicks and swings and activating his in-car video camera to record the remainder of the encounter, his report said." That really sounds liked a scared little child. As a side note, a 15 year old girl can be very fiesty and put up a good fight.

But why would the officer turn on his camera and record the event himself if he had 'nasty' intentions? Obviously he did it to prove that there was a problem; that she was resisting arrest. He surely wouldn't purposely record something that would implicate himself.

As has already been pointed out, the girl wasn't cooperating, so why you think she would submissively get in the back of the car is hard to figure. I'm guessing there's a reason why people are cuffed before being put in a police car, and I'm guessing that reason is to subdue them on the ride to where ever they are being driven to so they can't get violent. Obviously, from her actions on the video, this girl was capable of getting violent. So why should police officers put themselves at that risk; why should this girl be above police procedures?

As for "following her home." Yeah, I'm sure that would work. I'm sure she wouldn't have tried to bolt through a field or a yard or somewhere a car couldn't follow. But that aside, why in the world would you think this girl deserves that kind of special treatment? Why would you think a police officer should take the time to crawl along in his car as the girl walks home?

FYI, she's been charged, and will have to go to court, for a felony; "She faces a felony charge of battery on a law-enforcement officer."

At one point, she “clamped down on my hand/wrist and I felt immediate pain shot up my arm,” the officer wrote. “The pain was shocking, and I thought the suspect was going to extract a large piece of flesh from my hand.”

Who cares if she knows the term "resisting arrest?" She should know, at 15, that you don't fight a police officer, that you don't bite a police officer; that you show respect. She's old enough to be taking driver's ed, and you think she is so innocent of the law that she should be given special treatment? She's old enough to have sex, have a baby, and raise that child. I would hope she's old enough to know to respect the law and law enforcement officers. If she doesn't, that's not the police department's fault/problem.

As for the "punch"-- I'm now inclined to agree with CLRV:

...his "punch to the face" business is overstatement writ large. It was a simple bop on the beezer; more of an attention getter and surely not enough to do any physical damage. An attention getter, if you will, and certainly an adequate response to what was unquestionably an assault.

There are pictures of her wrists showing bruises from resisting the cuffs, but there are no pictures of bruises to her face. Surely if a cop "punched" a 15 year old girl in the face, there would be marks; bruises.

I do think the pepper spray was a legitmate course to take, though. I don't feel that was going over the line. Watching the video, I think that's what finally subdued her.

[betsy]

Yes, it was the peppr spray that finally subdued her. So the use of pepper spray was proper and necessary in this situation.

I don't know how their policy is about the use of pepper spray....but it would've been easier to have used it sooner than that.

At least she's lucky he didn't use a taser....I hear those really hurt.

[buffycat]

Question: So you got stopped by a cop on your late drive home. And we'll assume that he is a real cop.

If the cop repeatedly asked you, "step out of the vehicle, ma'am"....would you be a stupid enough to refuse to step out and argue repeatedly "but I did nothing wrong, officer...?"

Well, the first rule when dealing with police is no not utter a single word. Second - if you have a cell phone start the record function immediately (even if you only get sound - as it may come in handy later.

There is no reason why I should step out of my vehicle. If he needs my liscense I can hand it to him through the window. Some police officers are not nice individuals Betsy - I sure hope you never run into that type - it would be a wake up call for you.

Some of these bastards can be sick beyond belief.

I have VERY little trust in the police - and the level of mistrust I do have is VERY well earned by these so called 'protectors'.

The militarisation of our 'public' police has been ongoing for decades now, coupled with unrestrained allowances made for these officers it spells brutality time and time again - and THEY GET AWAY WITH IT.

There was a case here a few years back where a constable on the force was videotaped smashing a girls head repeatedly into the hood of his cruiser. Guess what: he's still on the force after a two hear holiday with pay. (I know this guy's father - sick bastard - son is just the same).

We need civilian oversight on our police and those who are unfit need to lose their jobs immediately.

[buffycat]

This guy needs retraining wrt restraining people.

Speaking as a black belt - it's really not that difficult to do.

All you folks who condone the action of this officer really need to have a little more interaction with these types of cops.

[Guest American Woman]

All you folks who condone the action of this officer really need to have a little more interaction with these types of cops.

All of you folks who think a cop should cater to a 15 year old who has violated the law and violently resisted arrest need to learn a little bit more about appropriate behavior and respect for the law. It's not doing this girl any favors to let her think she is above the law and that she can go around biting police officers. An attitude like that spells much worse trouble down the road. Like I said, she needs someone to tell her in no uncertain terms that what she did was wrong. Perhaps she'll finally realize it when she's at her court date for the felony she has been charged with.

Edited October 6, 2007 by American Woman

[buffycat]

All of you folks who think a cop should cater to a 15 year old who has violated the law and violently resisted arrest need to learn a little bit more about appropriate behavior and respect for the law. It's not doing this girl any favors to let her think she is above the law and that she can go around biting police officers. An attitude like that spells much worse trouble down the road. Like I said, she needs someone to tell her in no uncertain terms that what she did was wrong. Perhaps she'll finally realize it when she's at her court date for the felony she has been charged with.

Funny that hey aren't charging here for stolen goods - which is implied by many posts here. Seems she's only being charged with assaulting a cop.

Sorry - I don't see the police as an institution to be respected - they lost that in my eyes YEARS ago. Sure there are few oldtimers on the force who still may deserve respect as they actually used their own common sense - sadly they are few and far between.

Nope, this guy used excessive force and could have restrained her in a much more successful way. No need for the pepper spray, no need for the excess force.

I will never cow-tow to the cops. I will be polite if I 'HAVE' to deal with them - outside of that - I hope I never again have the pleasure to interact with these neanderthals.

[Guest American Woman]

Funny that hey aren't charging here for stolen goods - which is implied by many posts here. Seems she's only being charged with assaulting a cop.

How do you know they aren't? Furthermore, saying she was carrying a bag full of clothes with the price tags still on them is not saying she stole them, but it is a matter worth questioning-- especially after receiving a 911 call as this officer did. Or do you think it's perfectly normal for a 15 year old girl to be out walking with a bag full of clothes [...] at 1:50 am? The fact remains that she DID violate the curfew law, and resisted arrest.

Sorry - I don't see the police as an institution to be respected - they lost that in my eyes YEARS ago. Sure there are few oldtimers on the force who still may deserve respect as they actually used their own common sense - sadly they are few and far between.

I said the law should be respected, and it should. It doesn't matter if you agree with it, you still need to respect it. I also said law officers should be treated with respect, and they should be. Whether you respect them or not, this would be one helluva world if we had no police to rely on, and many risk their lives on a daily basis; and whether you respect them or not, they should be treated with respect, or you will pay the price. This 15 year old is learning that the hard way-- by being charged with a felony for her actions.

Nope, this guy used excessive force and could have restrained her in a much more successful way. No need for the pepper spray, no need for the excess force.

Let's forgo debating whether he used excessive force or not and cut to the chase. He used the force he did because she resisted arrest. He didn't hop out of the car and start manhandling her. What would you suggest one do to subdue a kicking, hitting, biting 15 year old? Seriously. I'd like to hear about your "much more successful way."

I will never cow-tow to the cops. I will be polite if I 'HAVE' to deal with them - outside of that - I hope I never again have the pleasure to interact with these neanderthals.

I will be polite if I 'HAVE' to deal with them ...

That's exactly what I'm saying. She had to deal with them because she violated the law. So she should have been polite (ie: shown respect) and reacted in an appropriate manner. Had she done that, the cop wouldn't have had to use any kind of force.

I repeat. It will only harm this girl to let her think she is above the law; that the law should cater to her; that she did nothing wrong. She DID do something wrong-- in breaking curfew and then in (violently) resisting arrest.

Edited October 6, 2007 by American Woman

[buffycat]

I will be polite if I 'HAVE' to deal with them ...

That's exactly what I'm saying. She had to deal with them because she violated the law. So she should have been polite (ie: shown respect) and reacted in an appropriate manner. Had she done that, the cop wouldn't have had to use any kind of force.

You have got to be kidding me? Mr. Nice Police Officer would have not used any kind of force - even if she had been polite?

BAhahahaha!! Uh yeah right. That is not the way it goes sadly enough. Sometimes one can be polite, and friendly but still ends up getting the crap beat out of them by the cops. (Yes I AM speaking of personal experience here - when I was only a year older than this girl - and NO I didn't DO a damn thing - apart from wanting to use a phone to call - MY MOTHER).

Sorry - don't talk to me about police violence - BEEN there - DONE that.

Oh, and once after being assaulted by two perverts and winding up at the cop shop to look through endless mugshots - guess what - the cop that drove me home prompty attempted to feel me up and stick his dirty paw down my pants!!

Nope - some cops are sick bastards.

[Guest American Woman]

You have got to be kidding me? Mr. Nice Police Officer would have not used any kind of force - even if she had been polite?

He would not have "HAD" to use force had she not resisted arrest. That is a fact.

You are contradicting yourself. I agree with your statement: I will be polite if I 'HAVE' to deal with them ... That includes not physically, violently resisting arrest.

And here's something for you to seriously consider: Because you had two bad experiences with cops once doesn't mean that's the way it always, or usually, goes down. I never said there was no such thing as police brutality, but that doesn't make it the norm, and it doesn't excuse one for resisting arrest; it doesn't excuse one from doing the proper thing.

Judging all police officers by your extremely limited experience is totally unjustified.

Edited to add:

I'm still waiting to hear about the specifics regarding the "much more successful way" the cop should have handled it.

Edited October 6, 2007 by American Woman

[CLRV]

I would wager the "experience" is as fictional as the "black belt".

A black belt would recognize the use of reasonable force.

[Moxie]

Did anyone else notice when he brought her to the front of the car that the girl appears stoned? Watch the beginning of the tape again, watch her facial expressions and body language, she appears to be staggering around with very little body coordination. I'm guessing but I'd hazard a guess she's a junky, she acts and looks like one.

As for her mellow-drama, all she had to do was place her hands behind her back. When an officer of the law instructs you to place you hands behind you back you do as he instructs you don't bite the cop. If my assertion is correct and she's a junky that bite could very well end the cops life. As for the blow to the head, well if the pepper spray doesn't work stunning her with a blow to the head is not uncommon.

[buffycat]

I would wager the "experience" is as fictional as the "black belt".

A black belt would recognize the use of reasonable force.

Excuse me but are you calling me a liar?

Easy to do in an anonymous forum eh?

Actually neither are a lie and your blatent personal attack has not gone unnoticed. What the f is your problem? Do you know me? NO. So unless you do and can come forth with any kind of real proof as to what I said happened to me personally you can simply piss off.

And as for my Black Belt - oh rest assured I do have it, working on my next level currently. I've even won a few medals in sparring! The cop could've done better - we also don't have a clue as to what transpired before he dragged her in front of the camera.

As for Moxie - so in your eyes beating on a junkie is just okay? What they aren't people with serious problems?

Chaulk one up for the 'let's use force' crowd to deal with everyone!!

As for police brutality - the majority of it goes unreported. It happens more often than any one here wants to admit. Not only do I understand this sad fact from personal experience, I also know a few cops who corroborate the problems but feel quite helpless to do much about it. Too bad these are older fellas and nearing retirement, though I imagine once retired at least one of them will be speaking out loudly.

[Guest American Woman]

The cop could've done better -

So you've said, more than once. What you've failed to say is how he could have done better.

Chaulk one up for the 'let's use force' crowd to deal with everyone!!

Who exactly has said "let's use force to deal with everyone?" What's being said is had this girl not physically resisted arrest, the use of force would have been unnecessary.

As for police brutality - the majority of it goes unreported.

How would you know that? How would you know it's happening if it's going unreported? But even giving you that, "the majority of it going unreported" is totally different from it happening in the majority of cases.

Go on believing all/most cops are out to get you/everyone. But it's no different from those who judge all Muslims by bin Laden, etc.

Edited October 6, 2007 by American Woman

[DogOnPorch]

American Woman: How would you know that? How would you know it's happening if it's going unreported? But even giving you that, "the majority of it going unreported" is totally different from it happening in the majority of cases.

Go on believing all/most cops are out to get you/everyone. But it's no different from those who judge all Muslims by bin Laden, etc.

What she said.

Indeed it sounds as if B_Cat is a bit too biased to talk objectively about the police.

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[kuzadd]

she was charged with what?

As reported the only charge I read her receiving was resisting arrest.

from the article posted

The teen pleaded not guilty to a resisting-arrest charge.

According to court documents, the case is expected to go to trial in November, where a judge will decide whether the officer used excessive force in the arrest.

So I am going to assume that was all she was charged with.

Apparently she was out beyond curfew, since she is a minor, she should of and could have been taken home.

Then, it is entirely possible, none of the ensuing melee, would have taken place.

Interestingly and I do note, she was not charged for being out past curfew, either.

The bag she had in her hand is visible in the video.

Since it was tightly closed,( tied) I am wondering how the cop would have observed the 'clothes having tags on them' and in all actuality, I do not believe he did.

When incidents arise such as this I have noted that the police, will overinflate to justify their actions, like the woman, that those 3 cops killed in her own home , after they broke in to it.

Where the 3 cops in question made a big story of how she shot at them etc., and they were just defending themselves by shooting her full of holes in her own home.

Except she didn't, and the idiots fired off so many bullets, they shot each other.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-0...-shooting_N.htm

oh but these cops lied and lied, and the public was outraged.

Fulton County prosecutor Peter Johnson disclosed Thursday that the officers involved in Johnston's death fired 39 shots, striking her five or six times, including a fatal blow to the chest.

He said Johnston only fired once through her door and didn't hit any of the officers. That means the officers who were wounded likely were hit by their own colleagues, he said.

IMO, the cop did this because she was black-skinned and that is it.

Had it been a white skinned girl, IMO, she would have simply been brought home.

BUT, since she was black skinned and out past curfew, she was automatically treated as more suspicious, then she should have otherwise been.( We have reams of history and documentation to back up this contention)

Since she is a minor, she should have been taken to her parents/guardians (would she have run away, I don't know)

I am saying that this entire scenario, should have been handled differently, with the intent to ensure the safety of the MINOR child first and foremost. That would have been done by, attempting to bring her home rather then arrest her.

Oh and BTW, what exactly was she being arrested for?

If it was a curfew issue, why was she not charged?

Because the "resisting' only became an issue, when the officer tried to arrest her.

Oh and the pepper spray, after she was already hand-cuffed, overkill.

[jefferiah]

As for Moxie - so in your eyes beating on a junkie is just okay? What they aren't people with serious problems?

.

Do junkies bite people generally? If and when a junkie bites me I might try to subdue him. But the word "beating" is a a bit much here isn't it Buffy?

And if a fifteen year old doesn't know that you shouldn't bite a police officer (which is something I highly doubt), she just bloody well learned it now.

"You have got to be kidding me? Mr. Nice Police Officer would have not used any kind of force - even if she had been polite?"--Buffycat

This quote of yours shows me you have preconceived notions.

"Had it been a white skinned girl, IMO, she would have simply been brought home."--Kuzadd

Oh really? Never fails to astound me how psychic the left is. This reminds me of when Oprah was in Paris and wanted to buy a gift for a friend. She went to a certain store, and it was closed. There were employees inside, but it was after hours and they were having a meeting. Oprah banged on the window to get in, expecting that since people were there, they should open up shop just for her. A guard asked her to leave and come back the following day during store hours. And it was not long before Oprah announced to the world that the store was racist, and had it been Britney Spears they would have opened up shop for her. Same type of claim. Same type of nonsense.

[Guest American Woman]

she was charged with what?

As reported the only charge I read her receiving was resisting arrest.

So I am going to assume that was all she was charged with.

She was, as I said, charged with a felony battery charge, along with resisting arrest.

Riley was in court Thursday and had her case scheduled to go to trial Nov. 28. She faces a felony charge of battery on a law-enforcement officer... Link

Apparently she was out beyond curfew, since she is a minor, she should of and could have been taken home. Then, it is entirely possible, none of the ensuing melee, would have taken place.

She most definitely was out past curfew, being that she should have been in by midnight and it was 1:50 am. Furthermore, the cops were responding to a 911 call regarding a suspicious couple on that street carrying bags. You think the cop shouldn't have responded to that call; or seeing a young girl, should have assumed her innocence?

Interestingly and I do note, she was not charged for being out past curfew, either.

As I said, she was most definitely out past curfew. That was a given. It's a fact that she violated curfew, so perhaps one doesn't have to be "charged" with it since guilt or innocence isn't an issue. Furthermore, that suggests that had she just responded appropriately, she wouldn't have been "charged" with anything.

The bag she had in her hand is visible in the video.

Since it was tightly closed,( tied) I am wondering how the cop would have observed the 'clothes having tags on them' and in all actuality, I do not believe he did.

He may not have until after. But the bags WERE an issue because of the 911 call he was responding to. Cops can't risk assuming a 15 year old is innocent when responding to a call. As I've already pointed out, many a violent crime has been committed by a 15 year old. She reacted inappropriately, and that you can't see it and/or make excuses for her is difficult to understand.

When incidents arise such as this I have noted that the police, will overinflate to justify their actions, like the woman, that those 3 cops killed in her own home , after they broke in to it.

Where the 3 cops in question made a big story of how she shot at them etc., and they were just defending themselves by shooting her full of holes in her own home.

Except she didn't, and the idiots fired off so many bullets, they shot each other.

Again with only one example to explain how this cop couldn't possibly be telling the truth. Why do you think HE would turn the camera on himself? Do you think he'd be stupid enough to implicate himself if he were lying/making things up?

IMO, the cop did this because she was black-skinned and that is it.

To your way of thinking, and apparently way too many others', the fact that this girl is black-skinned absolves her of any wrong doing. You say the cop was wrong because she was black-skinned and that is it.

BUT, since she was black skinned and out past curfew, she was automatically treated as more suspicious, then she should have otherwise been.( We have reams of history and documentation to back up this contention)

If she was treated with "suspicion," it's because the officer was resonding to a 911 call regarding a "suspicious" couple.

Since she is a minor, she should have been taken to her parents/guardians (would she have run away, I don't know)

I am saying that this entire scenario, should have been handled differently, with the intent to ensure the safety of the MINOR child first and foremost. That would have been done by, attempting to bring her home rather then arrest her.

You don't have the right to dictate how an officer should handle someone violating the law. Furthermore, it's clear the officer WAS trying to ensure her safety. He repeatedly told her to stop, that she was going to get hurt if she kept resisting. Furthermore, you think that cop couldn't have restrained her if he had used more force? To me it's clear that he was trying NOT to use too much force; that he was trying not to hurt her. She had marks on her wrists from resisting the cuffs, but there is no mention of marks on her arms from the officer's actions.

Oh and the pepper spray, after she was already hand-cuffed, overkill.

She wasn't pepper sprayed after she was cuffed; clearly she was cuffed only AFTER she was pepper sprayed. Should the officer have used MORE force rather than pepper spraying her? Or should he have just stuggled with her all night, putting up with being bitten?

Again, that you cannot see that this girl behaved inappropriately is difficult to understand. But I keep forgetting. She's black, so of course she's innocent of any wrong-doing.

[bush_cheney2004]

IMO, the cop did this because she was black-skinned and that is it.

Had it been a white skinned girl, IMO, she would have simply been brought home.

Well, that didn't take long to come out. Having failed to garner sympathy with a "child-teenage GIRL" angle, time to play the race card with BLACK TEENAGE GIRL! A perp is a perp no matter what his/her "skin" color, particularly when it includes assaulting a police officer. This cop was smart to make sure he had video of the arrest.

[kuzadd]

Well, that didn't take long to come out. Having failed to garner sympathy with a "child-teenage GIRL" angle, time to play the race card with BLACK TEENAGE GIRL! A perp is a perp no matter what his/her "skin" color, particularly when it includes assaulting a police officer. This cop was smart to make sure he had video of the arrest.

are you seriously going to tell me skin colour is a non-issue??

wrt police/law enforcement?

Seriously?

and I said

BUT, since she was black skinned and out past curfew, she was automatically treated as more suspicious, then she should have otherwise been.( We have reams of history and documentation to back up this contention)

Doubtful it was a non-issue.

[bush_cheney2004]

are you seriously going to tell me skin colour is a non-issue??

wrt police/law enforcement?

Seriously?

and I said

Doubtful it was a non-issue.

This is your opinion.....you have proven nothing. I just wonder why you didn't go with this strategy first, instead of that lame TEENAGE GIRL VICTIM, COP IS A MOLESTER approach. Police officers cuff, mace, and taze perps of all skin colors. Such activity is very popular on TV shows like "Cops" and numerous crime TV spin-offs.

Doubtful it was an issue when "white" teeth started biting....LOL!

[kuzadd]

She was, as I said, charged with a felony battery charge, along with resisting arrest.

of course she was, but , not charged with breaking curfew, or possession of stolen goods, etc.,

The very reasons it was alleged she was stopped.

Again, that you cannot see that this girl behaved inappropriately is difficult to understand. But I keep forgetting. She's black, so of course she's innocent of any wrong-doing.

Please don't assume what I am thinking.

My only concern with her skin colour is that it likely caused the officer to be more suspicious of her then, if it was a white skinned child. You know, like driving while black, walking while black, or attending school while black.

Or , are you going to claim, the stats that bear that bias out, wrong.?

You don't have the right to dictate how an officer should handle someone violating the law.

I am not dictating anything, why would you use that type of language, I am expressing an opinion as you are?

What law has she violated? Allegedly a curfew law? So take the kid home, with a warning.

I simply do not see the need to put the minor under arrest.

From the article I posted?

as the reason she was stopped:

She was allegedly carrying a garbage bag full of new clothes with tags still attach

Yet in the video the bag appears tied closed, so how did the cop suspect that the clothes bag was full of new clothes with tags on.

Did he open it and tie it back up? That doesn't make sense.

Did he not open it at all? if he didn't how did he know, the clothes had tags on them to make him suspicious?

The bag still being tied in the video, bothers me, as it makes me wonder why, the minor was being arrested, other then a curfew isssue, in which case she should have simply been brought home.

Shouldn't he have opened the bag if there was a call of a suspicious bag? prior to arrest? or what exactly would she be being arrested for?

it certainly doesn't appear to be curfew breach , as she wasn't charged for that.

yet it would be the simplest charge to lay and have stick.

AW: I do not believe police are automatically correct or righteous. These are simply people doing jobs they get payed for, as such , they are capable of corruption and abuse of the powerful position they hold. This is nothing new or earthshattering.

Edited October 6, 2007 by kuzadd

[bush_cheney2004]

What law has she violated? Allegedly a curfew law? So take the kid home, with a warning.

I simply do not see the need to put the minor under arrest.

So now the police are babysitters for parents and their perp children? This criminal assaulted a police officer trying to do his job. It doesn't matter what "color" her skin was.

[kuzadd]

So now the police are babysitters for parents and their perp children? This criminal assaulted a police officer trying to do his job. It doesn't matter what "color" her skin was.

I get it, your the real "law and order type", but myself, I think the police, and parents, in a community, should operate in a more cooperative manner.

It benefits everyone. The police, parents, and the community at large.

BTW: I would rather see police "babysit" for parents, then for politicians, but hey that's just me.

Edited October 6, 2007 by kuzadd