Cops Planted Drugs

[buffycat]

I don't know if anyone will remember this. I know Kuzadd will, we discussed this on another board some time ago. Well it seems that not only did these cops raid the wrong house, killing the woman who lived there - but also it seems they planted evidence!

Documents Reveal: Cops Planted Pot on 92-Year Old Woman They Killed in Botched Drug Raid

Atlanta resident Kathryn Johnston's death has finally been exposed to be a case of police coverup in clear example of the insanity of the war on drugs.

According to federal documents released this week, these are the events that led to Kathryn Johnston's death and the steps the officers took to cover their tracks.

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By 6 p.m., they had the legal document they needed to break into Kathryn Johnston's house, and within 40 minutes they were prying off the burglar bars and using a ram to burst through the elderly woman's front door. It took about two minutes to get inside, which gave Johnston time to retrieve her rusty .38 revolver.

Tesler was at the back door when Junnier, Smith and the other narcotics officers crashed through the front.

Johnston got off one shot, the bullet missing her target and hitting a porch roof. The three narcotics officers answered with 39 bullets.

Five or six bullets hit the terrified woman. Authorities never figured out who fired the fatal bullet, the one that hit Johnston in the chest. Some pieces of the other bullets -- friendly fire -- hit Junnier and two other cops.

The officers handcuffed the mortally wounded woman and searched the house.

There was no Sam.

There were no drugs.

There were no cameras that the officers had claimed was the reason for the no-knock warrant.

Just Johnston, handcuffed and bleeding on her living room floor.

That is when the officers took it to another level. Three baggies of marijuana were retrieved from the trunk of the car and planted in Johnston's basement. The rest of the pot from the trunk was dropped down a sewage drain and disappeared.

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Ahhh yes, the War on Some Drugs - just as the War on Some Terror! All smoke and mirrors, based on lies, and complete with distortions!

This is what Harper would like to bring here.

[M.Dancer]

This is what Harper would like to bring here.

Ahhh,..yeah....you should have that looked after........

[buffycat]

This is what Harper would like to bring here.

Ahhh,..yeah....you should have that looked after........

Dancer: Quit trolling. It's not adding anything to the boards.

Do you have anything to say about the posted article?

No?

Then why respond to this thread?

The Harper 'Conservatives' have advocated longer and 'minimum' sentencing for petty drug offences, as well they have given the nod to the idea of private prisons.

The above situation is not an isolated event. There are many botched raids, of which the innocent parties have suffered injuries and like in this one, death.

Now, talk about the subject or kindly refrain from comment.

[Wilber]

Are you suggesting that every time the police screw something up, whatever they were investigating should be legalized?

[M.Dancer]

Now, talk about the subject or kindly refrain from comment.

Okay, you suggest that an anomaly is the gameplan from Harper.

That is absurd and paranoid.

[M.Dancer]

Are you suggesting that every time the police screw something up, whatever they were investigating should be legalized?

No she is suggesting that the police are bad and steven wants bad police.........

[buffycat]

Are you suggesting that every time the police screw something up, whatever they were investigating should be legalized?

Wilber,

I think the problem revolves around a situation (drug abuse) being dealt with in a way which is counterproductive for all involved - the police and those using or selling so-called 'illegal' drugs.

It is a compromising position to put our police into the business of dictating a moral or personall behaviour, in effect upholding a prohibition against a normal human behaviour. It sets up an area rife for the corruption of both police and local officials.

You ask if I want all of what the cops screw up legalized? Your question is blurry - if you are asking whether I think that all so called illegal drugs be legalised then YES - if you are asking whether all laws, say against murder, theft, child abuse should be revoked - no. But - last time I checked the SWAT team hasn't beaten down the door of a child molester and shot him to death only to find out they had the wrong address - then proceeding to COVER IT UP.

If you can clarify your question I can address it more clearly.

Do you agree that what happened in this case ( the op) is certainly tragic and a gross miscarriage of the law?

[scribblet]

Really, how could anyone in their right mind even suggest that - mein gott -thats just delusional

[buffycat]

Really, how could anyone in their right mind even suggest that - mein gott -thats just delusional

suggest what Scriblett?

Legalise drugs?

Anything to say about Ms. Johnson? Or the OP?

Or do you think it's fine that this 92 year old woman is dead?

[scribblet]

Really, how could anyone in their right mind even suggest that - mein gott -thats just delusional

suggest what Scriblett?

Legalise drugs?

Anything to say about Ms. Johnson? Or the OP?

Or do you think it's fine that this 92 year old woman is dead?

I don't think its fine at all, and I'm not up on American police procedures as I'm Canadian, what I was referring to was your statement: "This is what Harper would like to bring here." obviously quite delusional

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't think its fine at all, and I'm not up on American police procedures as I'm Canadian, what I was referring to was your statement: "This is what Harper would like to bring here." obviously quite delusional

Agreed, as this is a splendid example of the same "booga-booga" technique decried by same. It is not Canada, it is not what PM Harper would like to bring to Canada, but it is more of the same anti-American rhetoric and foil used as a substitute for knowing or defining domestic policies in domestic terms. Hell, why not look at police tactics in Mexico or China as more great examples of what PM Harper "would like to bring"?

Would it make any difference if is was a 42-year old woman, or man, or perhaps a 4 year old child of either sex? What's magic about the possibility of 92 year old criminals or victims? (Answer = hype)

Back in the 80's, police in Minneapolis used flash-bang grenade entry tactics on an alleged crack-house which resulted in a fire and deaths of two people (their age is irrelevant). Lawsuits followed (wrong house), damages were awarded, insurance rates rose, and police tactics were changed...but not eliminated. If police misconduct had been involved, trials would have followed. So much for the scary "Police State".

[kuzadd]

I don't know if anyone will remember this. I know Kuzadd will, we discussed this on another board some time ago. Well it seems that not only did these cops raid the wrong house, killing the woman who lived there - but also it seems they planted evidence!

Documents Reveal: Cops Planted Pot on 92-Year Old Woman They Killed in Botched Drug Raid

Atlanta resident Kathryn Johnston's death has finally been exposed to be a case of police coverup in clear example of the insanity of the war on drugs.

According to federal documents released this week, these are the events that led to Kathryn Johnston's death and the steps the officers took to cover their tracks.

snip

By 6 p.m., they had the legal document they needed to break into Kathryn Johnston's house, and within 40 minutes they were prying off the burglar bars and using a ram to burst through the elderly woman's front door. It took about two minutes to get inside, which gave Johnston time to retrieve her rusty .38 revolver.

Tesler was at the back door when Junnier, Smith and the other narcotics officers crashed through the front.

Johnston got off one shot, the bullet missing her target and hitting a porch roof. The three narcotics officers answered with 39 bullets.

Five or six bullets hit the terrified woman. Authorities never figured out who fired the fatal bullet, the one that hit Johnston in the chest. Some pieces of the other bullets -- friendly fire -- hit Junnier and two other cops.

The officers handcuffed the mortally wounded woman and searched the house.

There was no Sam.

There were no drugs.

There were no cameras that the officers had claimed was the reason for the no-knock warrant.

Just Johnston, handcuffed and bleeding on her living room floor.

That is when the officers took it to another level. Three baggies of marijuana were retrieved from the trunk of the car and planted in Johnston's basement. The rest of the pot from the trunk was dropped down a sewage drain and disappeared.

*****************

Ahhh yes, the War on Some Drugs - just as the War on Some Terror! All smoke and mirrors, based on lies, and complete with distortions!

This is what Harper would like to bring here.

I remember the story well, and remember upon reading it, thought it stunk to high heaven.

All full of oddities.

I had actually heard this follow up somewhere, also.

Also recall BC, on the forum was like , oh well , shoot at the police, too bad.

Those dirty cops, are really just criminals. Handcuffing a 92 yr old woman they have just shot!

I love when I am right, and I am so often *big smirk*

war on drugs & war on terror = BS

[bush_cheney2004]

I remember the story well, and remember upon reading it, thought it stunk to high heaven.

All full of oddities.

I had actually heard this follow up somewhere, also.

Also recall BC, on the forum was like , oh well , shoot at the police, too bad.

Those dirty cops, are really just criminals. Handcuffing a 92 yr old woman they have just shot!

I love when I am right, and I am so often *big smirk*

war on drugs & war on terror = BS

More "Booga Booga"? LOL!

Shooting at cops is a request for police assisted suicide. What's this obsession with age (92 year old).

You seemingly have no problem with ripping the limbs from an 8 month old fetus! (Handcuffs would be too small.)

[Figleaf]

It is a compromising position to put our police into the business of dictating a moral or personall behaviour, in effect upholding a prohibition against a normal human behaviour. It sets up an area rife for the corruption of both police and local officials.

Well put. And 100% bang-on correct.

[GostHacked]

Shooting at cops is a request for police assisted suicide. What's this obsession with age (92 year old).

Except you know the truth of the story now that the cops planted the drugs on the woman for they screwed up and got the wrong apartment hence the wrong person. They tried to cover their mistakes by making more mistakes. I would have been more receptive to the cops confession if they came out with it at the start. It is called being responsible for your actions. Even as a police officer you want to make sure you do not kill any innocent civilians, which this case shows that an innocent had died. Turned out the woman had a gun for self deffence.

I do not know of any Grannies myself dealing the drugs.

So the cops screwed up, which end resulted in an innocent civilian being murdered. Those cops should face the same fate.

[kuzadd]

I remember the story well, and remember upon reading it, thought it stunk to high heaven.

All full of oddities.

I had actually heard this follow up somewhere, also.

Also recall BC, on the forum was like , oh well , shoot at the police, too bad.

Those dirty cops, are really just criminals. Handcuffing a 92 yr old woman they have just shot!

I love when I am right, and I am so often *big smirk*

war on drugs & war on terror = BS

More "Booga Booga"? LOL!

Shooting at cops is a request for police assisted suicide. What's this obsession with age (92 year old).

You seemingly have no problem with ripping the limbs from an 8 month old fetus! (Handcuffs would be too small.)

you assume she knew they were cops, not necessarily, she may have thought her house was being broken into, which is the more likely scenario.

amazingly you seemingly still side with these crooks. Crooks/murderer's is what they are.

[bush_cheney2004]

you assume she knew they were cops, not necessarily, she may have thought her house was being broken into, which is the more likely scenario.

amazingly you seemingly still side with these crooks. Crooks/murderer's is what they are.

Doesn't matter what she thought...police have the right to return home safely each night. Their's is a hazardous occupation. I'm sure they were placed on administrative leave, followed by a review or hearing, and disposition. Even if indicted for misconduct, better to be judged by twelve than carried by six to keep you happy.

[GostHacked]

you assume she knew they were cops, not necessarily, she may have thought her house was being broken into, which is the more likely scenario.

amazingly you seemingly still side with these crooks. Crooks/murderer's is what they are.

Doesn't matter what she thought...police have the right to return home safely each night. Their's is a hazardous occupation. I'm sure they were placed on administrative leave, followed by a review or hearing, and disposition. Even if indicted for misconduct, better to be judged by twelve than carried by six to keep you happy.

It is the line of work they are in. I have a right to come home in alive as well, but not at the expence of an innocent civilian in her own home. If I screw up on my job, peoples lives are not at risk, well actually they are. I drive heavy equipment at work, and if I am not on my best game, people can get hurt or killed. And if I happened to injure or kill someone at work, you can bet charges would be laid against me and possibly jail time for my screw ups, no pay, no more job, and there would be no second thoughts from any of you for throwing my ass in jail for it.

So, in this case, the police officers failed to 'Serve and Protect'. These cops even admitted they screwed up, but you would still wait for a jury to decide??

It does matter what the woman thought.

A - 'OH shi... they found my stash.' (reach for gun) She thinks the cops are at the door.

or

B - 'Oh shi .. someone is breaking into my house.' (reach for gun) She thinks a robber is at the door.

Actually it doesn't matter what the cops thought either. Was it a crack house granny or do they even have the right house?? Who cares right?

[bush_cheney2004]

Actually it doesn't matter what the cops thought either. Was it a crack house granny or do they even have the right house?? Who cares right?

I'm not sure what case you are referring to. The Nov 2006 case involved a legal no-knock warrant by three Atlanta narcotics officers, issued after officers purchased drugs from the same house.

She did manage to shoot three of the officers. Way to go Granny...just chose the wrong people to shoot.

[GostHacked]

Actually it doesn't matter what the cops thought either. Was it a crack house granny or do they even have the right house?? Who cares right?

I'm not sure what case you are referring to. The Nov 2006 case involved a legal no-knock warrant by three Atlanta narcotics officers, issued after officers purchased drugs from the same house.

She did manage to shoot three of the officers. Way to go Granny...just chose the wrong people to shoot.

If you go by this article that was origionaly posted

Still, Smith, Junnier and the other officer, Arthur Tesler, according to the state's case, ran with the information. They fabricated all the right answers to persuade a magistrate to give them a no-knock search warrant.

Your move now.

[bush_cheney2004]

If you go by this article that was origionaly posted

Still, Smith, Junnier and the other officer, Arthur Tesler, according to the state's case, ran with the information. They fabricated all the right answers to persuade a magistrate to give them a no-knock search warrant.

Your move now.

What part of "magistrate" and "warrant" do you not understand? Granny shot at cops....granny is dead "right"?.

Your move now.

[kuzadd]

Actually it doesn't matter what the cops thought either. Was it a crack house granny or do they even have the right house?? Who cares right?

I'm not sure what case you are referring to. The Nov 2006 case involved a legal no-knock warrant by three Atlanta narcotics officers, issued after officers purchased drugs from the same house.

She did manage to shoot three of the officers. Way to go Granny...just chose the wrong people to shoot.

no she didn't , she got off one shot, and she missed!

"Johnston got off one shot, the bullet missing her target and hitting a porch roof. The three narcotics officers answered with 39 bullets."

"Some pieces of the other bullets -- friendly fire -- hit Junnier and two other cops."

in other words the cops in there zeal shot one another.

the cops fired a hail of 39 bulletsat the woman.

and they purchased NO drugs there either.

[bush_cheney2004]

in other words the cops in there zeal shot one another.

the cops fired a hail of 39 bulletsat the woman.

and they purchased NO drugs there either.

Still doesn't matter...granny started the chain of deadly force events...granny paid the price. I'm surprised it was only 39 shots.

One bullet is a "hail" if it hits YOU.

[GostHacked]

in other words the cops in there zeal shot one another.

the cops fired a hail of 39 bulletsat the woman.

and they purchased NO drugs there either.

Still doesn't matter...granny started the chain of deadly force events...granny paid the price. I'm surprised it was only 39 shots.

One bullet is a "hail" if it hits YOU.

What part of 'fabricated' don't you understand?

Nah, you are not winning and not convincing anyone here in this thread on it. The cops started the deadly events buy entering the wrong apartment. That little bit seems to escape you, the cops fudged things up from the start. Wrong on a wrong on a wrong and the cops tried to cover up their mistakes... but still some old woman is to blame for it all.

I am calling checkmate.

[bush_cheney2004]

Nah, you are not winning and not convincing anyone here in this thread on it. The cops started the deadly events buy entering the wrong apartment. That little bit seems to escape you, the cops fudged things up from the start. Wrong on a wrong on a wrong and the cops tried to cover up their mistakes... but still some old woman is to blame for it all.

I am calling checkmate.

Nonsense....there is nothing to win even in your self proclamation, not to mention your ignorance of the law, municipal liability, and police training. "Mistakes" are part of the occupation...doesn't mean you're supposed to eat granny's bullets without a life preserving response.

Granny shot at police officers...granny is dead.