IS David Suzuki evil?

[JerrySeinfeld]

How many ways can you dress up "curtail development, tax corporations, redistribute wealth to poorer nations" and pretend it's not copmmunism?

Ask David. And he seems to think this climate change hysteria is his golden moment - that his time has finally come to rule the world with rhetoric and scare mongering.

Every time I see this guy speak, it becomse so much more and more obvious that he's less interested in FACTS and alot more interested in ATTENTION and INFLUENCE.

This is evil - and a scientist in drag is the worst kind.

[Who's Doing What?]

OK so now that the actual arguments have run out, it is time to attack the person's character. Hmm...Republican Politics 101, chapter 2.

[stignasty]

Ask David. And he seems to think this climate change hysteria is his golden moment - that his time has finally come to rule the world with rhetoric and scare mongering.

This is evil - and a scientist in drag is the worst kind.

He's evil because he's promoting a scientific theory (that most of the scientists who are qualified to debate agree with him on). Okay. But, does your hysteria, rhetoric and scare-mongering in this public thread also qualify you as evil? Jus' wonderin'

[noahbody]

OK so now that the actual arguments have run out, it is time to attack the person's character. Hmm...Republican Politics 101, chapter 2.

Suzuki is who he is. He's an environmental lobbyist. Like Al Gore, he is not an expert on the matter and should not be positioned as one by a media that, since the advent of 24-hour news, has been more about creating news and controversy than reporting.

Is Suzuki evil? No. Blinded by emotion and egotistical? Most definitely.

[Who's Doing What?]

Suzuki is who he is. He's an environmental lobbyist. Like Al Gore, he is not an expert on the matter and should not be positioned as one by a media that, since the advent of 24-hour news, has been more about creating news and controversy than reporting.

Is Suzuki evil? No. Blinded by emotion and egotistical? Most definitely.

So that makes it OK to target him for character assassination?

[JerrySeinfeld]

Suzuki is who he is. He's an environmental lobbyist. Like Al Gore, he is not an expert on the matter and should not be positioned as one by a media that, since the advent of 24-hour news, has been more about creating news and controversy than reporting.

Is Suzuki evil? No. Blinded by emotion and egotistical? Most definitely.

So that makes it OK to target him for character assassination?

HAHA - that's rich.

Given the relentless character assassination he participates in on a daily basis, I think if anyone is ripe to be picked on for their motives, it's good ol' DS.

[Black Dog]

I guess, when one lives one's life in a constant state of outrage, one's threshold for evil drops considerably.

[daniel]

...Blinded by emotion and egotistical? Most definitely.

Yes, every time I read something from Mr. Push-Poll, it becomes so much more and more obvious that he's less interested in FACTS and alot more interested in ATTENTION. Just another Troller.

[noahbody]

...Blinded by emotion and egotistical? Most definitely.

Yes, every time I read something from Mr. Push-Poll, it becomes so much more and more obvious that he's less interested in FACTS and alot more interested in ATTENTION. Just another Troller.

Isn't it a bit ironic that you're attempting to assassinate my character because it's wrong to assassinate Suzuki's character?

[JerrySeinfeld]

...Blinded by emotion and egotistical? Most definitely.

Yes, every time I read something from Mr. Push-Poll, it becomes so much more and more obvious that he's less interested in FACTS and alot more interested in ATTENTION. Just another Troller.

Isn't it a bit ironic that you're attempting to assassinate my character because it's wrong to assassinate Suzuki's character?

Exactly.

It's quite common in the left: attack attack attack. The left is sinister and evil. Sound familiar?

How many times have you heard the phrase "extreme right winger" or "hard core neocon" to discredit someone. I just though for amusement, why not play their game for a change and now their getting their tights all in a knot about it.

Predictable.

[JerrySeinfeld]

...Blinded by emotion and egotistical? Most definitely.

Yes, every time I read something from Mr. Push-Poll, it becomes so much more and more obvious that he's less interested in FACTS and alot more interested in ATTENTION. Just another Troller.

FACTS?

Let me ask you a very simple question. Do you consider it scientific or even remotely reasonable to only tout the DRAWBACKS of a warmer world without even giving MENTION to the benefits?

Suzuki would have us believe there are only cons and no pros to climate change.

Is this a balanced and honest approach? And if it's not honest, then what is his motivation for being DIShonest?

Think about it. No. Seriously. Take off your blinders and THINK for a moment about that question. Objectively.

[Topaz]

The answer NO! Like it or not, the environment of this world is in trouble, and I believe its man-made and nature doing it. We may not be able to stop nature but we CAN do something about what MAN does to the environment IF Man wants too! Here comes the problem, some people do and some don't. The don'ts fear the loss of the $$$$, while the do's fear the loss of life! When its comes to the environment, I trust Suzuki and other people like him, than the Minister of the Environment Baird, who contributes more bad air every time he opens his mouth and does nothing to help this country. He rather made jokes and ask riddles than answer question most Canadians would like to hear!

[mikedavid00]

Every time I see this guy speak, it becomse so much more and more obvious that he's less interested in FACTS and alot more interested in ATTENTION and INFLUENCE.

A quote of mine from a prevoius post of mine:

Listen.. people want 2 things in life. Money and power. Money give you power. Power gives you money. Both give you happiness and fulfillment.

The activists involved are after power. They want money from not working. They won't disclose how much Al-Gore got paid to be at the summit.

The researchers are finally getting their work recognized and are recieving the funding they desire which allows them to play God and reign supreme over their collegues.

In the end, people are all the same. And if Global Warming will get them their money and power then so be it.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Every time I see this guy speak, it becomse so much more and more obvious that he's less interested in FACTS and alot more interested in ATTENTION and INFLUENCE.

A quote of mine from a prevoius post of mine:

Listen.. people want 2 things in life. Money and power. Money give you power. Power gives you money. Both give you happiness and fulfillment.

The activists involved are after power. They want money from not working. They won't disclose how much Al-Gore got paid to be at the summit.

The researchers are finally getting their work recognized and are recieving the funding they desire which allows them to play God and reign supreme over their collegues.

In the end, people are all the same. And if Global Warming will get them their money and power then so be it.

Exactly. The dangerous thing about eco-nazis is that they dress up their basist desires with grandiose images of "saving the planet" - the ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing.

And as I have quote PJ many times: people whose missino it is to save the world want the world to seem much worse off than it actually is so that their mission will seem much more important.

Not only that - but speaking of money and power - I dare ANY scientist to try disputing climate change dogma and see how long his funding/career/credibility survives. It's a witch hunt of the worste magnitude - not a very condusive environment for candid scientific discussion.

Right now, any scientist who find legitimate reason to be skeptical of the wild and world-ending hysteria being thrown about risks his livelyhood. Again, doesn't sound very scientific to me.

I say it again: Suzuki is evil.

[Catchme]

No David Suzuki is not evil, he is interested in facts, and is qualified to speak, as he has been for years.

Nor is he interested in power.

Now some people, who would fit the evil bill on every level, including greedy grasping, power hungry liars, and who are not qualified in anything, let alone the environment, yet they spout off continually about it, and everything else are:

Jan and Paul Crouch, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, James Dobson and all the other prominent Dominionist leaders, and pastor middle men.

[mikedavid00]

No David Suzuki is not evil, he is interested in facts, and is qualified to speak, as he has been for years.

Nor is he interested in power.

His actions prove otherwise.

Like how his bus is left idling for 90 min outside his speaking engagements.

[Keepitsimple]

Suzuki is who he is. He's an environmental lobbyist. Like Al Gore, he is not an expert on the matter and should not be positioned as one by a media that, since the advent of 24-hour news, has been more about creating news and controversy than reporting.

Is Suzuki evil? No. Blinded by emotion and egotistical? Most definitely.

A very accurate response. Right on, Noah.

[geoffrey]

No David Suzuki is not evil, he is interested in facts, and is qualified to speak, as he has been for years.

I've likely taken as much climate related classes as Suzuki ever did. I'm an accountant. Interesting. I wonder if you'd say I'm highly qualified to speak on global warming if I started up an organization with a green coloured homepage and a pledge to save the whales.

Realistically, Suzuki is just a mere pawn that supports others messages that are likely, to some extent, above his level of expertise to really give an informed opinion.

What of the much more educated in related matters founder of Greenpeace Patrick Moore?? Do you hold him in the same light when he critizes the fear mongering and the political science of the global warming/climate change/whatever is happening now movement? He's actually lead an academic study on the topic and is a doctor of ecology... and he disagrees with the disinformation and political lies of the Suzuki types.

Suzuki is interesting in pushing the agenda of the green industry... people very interested in making lots of money at our expense. I used to respect him, but his intelligence and integrity come into question when he bows down to being a mere political pawn for other's use.

Who funds the Suzuki foundation? We don't know, they aren't telling.

[BubberMiley]

I've likely taken as much climate related classes as Suzuki ever did. I'm an accountant. Interesting. I wonder if you'd say I'm highly qualified to speak on global warming if I started up an organization with a green coloured homepage and a pledge to save the whales.

Because every undergraduate knows it's only possible to become an expert in something by majoring in it.

[White Doors]

No David Suzuki is not evil, he is interested in facts, and is qualified to speak, as he has been for years.

Nor is he interested in power.

Now some people, who would fit the evil bill on every level, including greedy grasping, power hungry liars, and who are not qualified in anything, let alone the environment, yet they spout off continually about it, and everything else are:

Jan and Paul Crouch, Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, James Dobson and all the other prominent Dominionist leaders, and pastor middle men.

Polynewbie? Is that you? Are Dominionists members of a bank in the Dominican Republic?

Do you think people realise it when they go insane?

As Al Gore said - I think we have reached our 'tipping point'

[speaker]

Who funds the Suzuki foundation? We don't know, they aren't telling.

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/

There you go geoffrey, perhaps as an accountant you can find what you say they aren't telling. but be very careful.... your mind might be broadened.

[runningdog]

No David Suzuki is not evil, he is interested in facts, and is qualified to speak, as he has been for years.

Nor is he interested in power.

His actions prove otherwise.

Like how his bus is left idling for 90 min outside his speaking engagements.

so you're saying that Dr. Suzuki ordered the bus company to leave the engine running?

[Michael Bluth]

His actions prove otherwise.

Like how his bus is left idling for 90 min outside his speaking engagements.

so you're saying that Dr. Suzuki ordered the bus company to leave the engine running?

He didn't order them to turn the engine off.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Who funds the Suzuki foundation? We don't know, they aren't telling.

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/

There you go geoffrey, perhaps as an accountant you can find what you say they aren't telling. but be very careful.... your mind might be broadened.

Who provides funding is overshadowing the real issue: it's funding itself that is a motivator.

Lets suspend reality for a moment and concede that some scientistss motivations must be tainted by monetary motovation. If that is possible, it's certainly possible on both sides, no?

Think about this. If your website/foundation's implied goal is to save the world from humans, you'll certainly get a lot more attention and MONEY if the end of the world is nigh will you not?

So doesn't Suzuki and others of his ilk have an implicit motivation to exaggerate the crisis?

It's the same argument used to discredit the deniers, so why wouldn't it apply to Suzuki as well?

[speaker]

So then the real issue is money, If I were to set up an organization dedicated to prooving scientifically that money is the root of all evil and asked everyone with a social conscience to donate, preferrably all their money, hoooolaaa

You know JerrySeinfeld I'd have to go along with you on all of that except for the fact that the science is being examined every which way from sunday and the only stuff that isn't getting into peer reviewed journals is the stuff that is being paid for by the essos of the world.