jdobbin Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/070411/..._probe_liberals he federal Conservatives have hired a prominent Quebec separatist to determine whether there should be yet another judicial inquiry into practices by the former Liberal government.The Tories offered no evidence of corruption or examples of waste in government public-opinion research - but they appointed Daniel Paille on Wednesday just to help make sure. The former Parti Quebecois cabinet minister will examine opinion research conducted in the 1990s, and then recommend whether there should be another inquiry like the one on the sponsorship scandal. Yikes, this person doesn't even know who the Auditor is. What makes them qualified on federal politics? Quote
Topaz Posted April 11, 2007 Report Posted April 11, 2007 http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/070411/..._probe_liberalshe federal Conservatives have hired a prominent Quebec separatist to determine whether there should be yet another judicial inquiry into practices by the former Liberal government.The Tories offered no evidence of corruption or examples of waste in government public-opinion research - but they appointed Daniel Paille on Wednesday just to help make sure. The former Parti Quebecois cabinet minister will examine opinion research conducted in the 1990s, and then recommend whether there should be another inquiry like the one on the sponsorship scandal. Yikes, this person doesn't even know who the Auditor is. What makes them qualified on federal politics? I'm beginning to wonder if the medication Harper is taking is going to his head as much as Bush's medication went to his!! This just shows that Harper will do and say anything to get a majority government so he can really put the******* to Canadians!!! Quote
stignasty Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Why do we need this investigation if the Auditor General has already studied it? The Liberals described the investigation as a slap in the face against Fraser, who released reports on public-opinion research in 2003 and again earlier this year. Meet the new boss, he's the same as the old boss. . . New Democrat MP Paul Dewar also complained that if MPs want to ask Fortier questions about the appointment, they can't. Fortier was appointed to cabinet without getting elected, and he sits in the Senate."The person being appointed here has questionable credentials," Dewar said. "We have the back-room, back-door process still alive and well. That's exactly the problem with the previous government. Quote "It may not be true, but it's legendary that if you're like all Americans, you know almost nothing except for your own country. Which makes you probably knowledgeable about one more country than most Canadians." - Stephen Harper
Catchme Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Why do we need this investigation if the Auditor General has already studied it?The Liberals described the investigation as a slap in the face against Fraser, who released reports on public-opinion research in 2003 and again earlier this year. Meet the new boss, he's the same as the old boss. . . New Democrat MP Paul Dewar also complained that if MPs want to ask Fortier questions about the appointment, they can't. Fortier was appointed to cabinet without getting elected, and he sits in the Senate."The person being appointed here has questionable credentials," Dewar said. "We have the back-room, back-door process still alive and well. That's exactly the problem with the previous government. We have had not only an investigation by the Auditor General, has everyone forgotten the Gomery Inquiry? What a waste of taxpayers dollars. Ands the CPC are using our money to try and get their own political gain. This will be blowing back upon them big time. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
geoffrey Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 The Gomery inquiry was a waste of taxpayer dollars? Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
stignasty Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 The Gomery inquiry was a waste of taxpayer dollars? I think Catchme was suggesting that this latest probe is simply fishing. It is a waste of money since we've already had an investigation by the AG and the Gomery inquiry to look into the issue of the Liberal corruption. Unless there is a good reason that we haven't been told, this would seem to be the case. It also looks like a redundant investigation to disgrace the most serious threat to the Conservatives in an election. Quote "It may not be true, but it's legendary that if you're like all Americans, you know almost nothing except for your own country. Which makes you probably knowledgeable about one more country than most Canadians." - Stephen Harper
ScottSA Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 Unless there is a good reason that we haven't been told, this would seem to be the case. It also looks like a redundant investigation to disgrace the most serious threat to the Conservatives in an election. I suspect there's fire where there's smoke. Harper has an uncanny knack for not using hamhanded tactics, and especially if they have the potential to backfire. My understanding is that the previous investigation only went back to 2003, and this one is going back 15 years. Lots of Liberal skeletons in the closet in the 90s. Quote
Figleaf Posted April 12, 2007 Report Posted April 12, 2007 So, now the Harper government has dragged us down to the level of Malaysia where the rulers use the courts to attack their political opponents. Disgusting. It looks like by the time Harper is finished, he'll make Duplessis look good. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 12, 2007 Author Report Posted April 12, 2007 I suspect there's fire where there's smoke. Harper has an uncanny knack for not using hamhanded tactics, and especially if they have the potential to backfire. My understanding is that the previous investigation only went back to 2003, and this one is going back 15 years. Lots of Liberal skeletons in the closet in the 90s. What hamhanded tactics are you talking about? The one where Harper said he would never tax income trusts? Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 So, now the Harper government has dragged us down to the level of Malaysia where the rulers use the courts to attack their political opponents.Disgusting. It looks like by the time Harper is finished, he'll make Duplessis look good. Hmmm, even the truest of Liberal hacks aren't approaching this with the histrionics on this board. From Warren Kinsella's blog. Let me – a formerly active federal Liberal who knows a little about polling and Public Works – give you a slightly different point of view. In or about 2002, the Auditor General was urged by Jean Chrétien, and his relevant minister, to look at contracting practices at Public Works – both advertising and polling. The celebrated part of her report is here. After he read it, Chrétien referred it to the RCMP (who, acting on a previous call from Chrétien, had already been conducting other investigations). The sponsorship part of the AG’s report became the basis for Paul Martin’s celebrated “Mad As Hell” tour, and was the excuse for calling the Gomery Pyle Commission, which was designed to shred Chrétien’s reputation, among other things. In crafting the terms of reference for Gomery, Martin and his brain trust carefully ensured that there would be no examination of polling practices – despite the fact that the same Chuck Guité controlled polling as much as he controlled advertising. Odd, that. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canuck E Stan Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Yikes, this person doesn't even know who the Auditor is. What makes them qualified on federal politics? Bet he knows who the Liberals are. Qualified on Federal politics? How many prominent Quebec separatist became Federal Liberals? Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
jdobbin Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Posted April 13, 2007 Bet he knows who the Liberals are.Qualified on Federal politics? How many prominent Quebec separatist became Federal Liberals? I don't know. But I know a bunch became PCs. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Bet he knows who the Liberals are.Qualified on Federal politics? How many prominent Quebec separatist became Federal Liberals? Jean Lapierre anyone? It's truly the biggest of Liberal hacks fighting this appointment. Something tells me that the Liberals are really afraid of what may come from this. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canuck E Stan Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 I don't know. But I know a bunch became PCs. I know a bunch of Liberals who became big time separatists. So happy being Liberals they actually started the separatist movement. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
hiti Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 From the Le Devoir, the Quebec newspaper with sovereignist sympathies, http://www.ledevoir.com/2007/04/12/139117.html “Daniel Paille is a person who got a lot of attention during his short political career in Quebec. Notably, he let the mayor of Montreal, Pierre Bourque, know that he (Paille) was opposed to the opening of a daycare across the street from his residence and he did this in a letter written on official stationary from the ministry of Industry, Commerce and Technology which was his department at the time. Later, he was forced to apologize to the national assembly. […] He was also the father of the controversial Paille plan to assist the start of new businesses. Due to the bankruptcy of more than a quarter of the businesses that benefited from the plan, the Quebec treasury lost 116.5 million dollars.” -end quote I think that Steve outdid hisself this time. LOLOL Rex Murphy had a good take on this ridiculous "accountability" by this "new" government on tonites National. From Paul Wells blog: http://forums.macleans.ca/advansis/?mod=fo...&so=1&ps=0&sb=1 And this guy is going to investigate Chretien's polling? Hahahaha.... I thought that Steve was such as political strategist. Seems like his brain got lost at his last photo-op. Quote "You cannot bring your Western standards to Afghanistan and expect them to work. This is a different society and a different culture." -Hamid Karzai, President of Afghanistan June 23/07
jdobbin Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Posted April 13, 2007 I know a bunch of Liberals who became big time separatists.So happy being Liberals they actually started the separatist movement. And some Tories helped form the BQ. So what? Quote
Figleaf Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Did anyone notice today that even the normally fellatial Globe and Mail editorial criticised this latest tory outrage as simply an effort smear the Liberals. With Steve in charge, I suppose we can soon expect Layton and Dion to be subject to house arrest and their supporters 'disappeared'. Quote
Guest chilipeppers Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 Did anyone notice today that even the normally fellatial Globe and Mail editorial criticised this latest tory outrage as simply an effort smear the Liberals. With Steve in charge, I suppose we can soon expect Layton and Dion to be subject to house arrest and their supporters 'disappeared'. Are you for real? I don't agree with this actually a bad move hiring a separatist particularly since the auditor allready cleared everything. Quote
ScottSA Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 With Steve in charge, I suppose we can soon expect Layton and Dion to be subject to house arrest and their supporters 'disappeared'. RuN!11!1!!!Away QicuK!!!1!!!rUN tORIeS!!!GUnSers!11!!!1!DahET SqaUDs!1!!!!!1!!! Quote
Figleaf Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 RuN!11!1!!!Away QicuK!!!1!!!rUN tORIeS!!!GUnSers!11!!!1!DahET SqaUDs!1!!!!!1!!! FYI Forum Rules: "POSTING CONTENT All posts must contain some aspect of an argument or attempt to stimulate discussion. " http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/index.p...&CODE=01&HID=17 Quote
M.Dancer Posted April 13, 2007 Report Posted April 13, 2007 With Steve in charge, I suppose we can soon expect Layton and Dion to be subject to house arrest and their supporters 'disappeared'. FYI Forum Rules: "POSTING CONTENT All posts must contain some aspect of an argument or attempt to stimulate discussion. " http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/index.p...&CODE=01&HID=17 Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Figleaf Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 Wow. Dancer, would have thought you could tell the difference between a grammatical sentence and an incoherent string of digits and characters. Guess I was wrong. Quote
Michael Bluth Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 Wow. Dancer, would have thought you could tell the difference between a grammatical sentence and an incoherent string of digits and characters. Guess I was wrong. FYI Forum Rules: "POSTING CONTENT All posts must contain some aspect of an argument or attempt to stimulate discussion. " http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/index.p...&CODE=01&HID=17 Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
August1991 Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 Weird thread discussion. Harper made an extremely adroit move in naming (or accepting advice to name) Paillé. In this nomination, Harper can't lose. That's not apparent by the discussion here but then no one here is seeking votes in Quebec. Then again - it would be truly remarkable if anyone here understood what Harper has done. Then again, again - Harper is a protestant Anglophone making an adroit move in Canada. Impressive. Harper's even ahead of Paul Wells in the analytical, bilingual chess game. Truly impressive. Quote
scribblet Posted April 14, 2007 Report Posted April 14, 2007 Did anyone notice today that even the normally fellatial Globe and Mail editorial criticised this latest tory outrage as simply an effort smear the Liberals. With Steve in charge, I suppose we can soon expect Layton and Dion to be subject to house arrest and their supporters 'disappeared'. Okay I'll bite (no pun intended) what do you mean the G & M is 'fellatial' Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
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