Hey Every Liberal in Ottawa.

[Michael Bluth]

Because no matter what they say or do, anything the Government says or does leads to cries of outrage and demands for apologies. Link

Are they really the Apology-Lawsuit party?

Belinda Stronach, because some Liberal MPs claim Peter McKay compared her to a dog.

Ralph Goodale, because charges were eventually laid against a civil servant over the income trust scandal, but not against him – which in his mind proved the former finance minister blameless. On the various political chat shows, Goodale was visibly angered for several weeks, regardless of the topic at hand.

Navdeep Bains, because during Question Period Stephen Harper started to read a news story revealing that one of Bains’ relatives may be a witness in the Air India inquiry. The Liberal caucus promptly abandoned its prepared questions and spent all its time in Question Period demanding an apology – for words that were never entered into the record, because the same Liberals shouted the PM down before he could even get to the story’s juicy bits.

Gerard Kennedy, Navdeep Bains and Omar Alghabra are suing the National Post over Jonathan Kay’s column in which an unnamed source alleged that Kennedy obtained the support of delegate blocs controlled by Bains and Alghabra, in exchange for a promise to oppose national security measures.

Michael Ignatieff, because Peter Van Loan described Ignatieff as a member “who said that torture is justified when dealing with terrorists.” Ignatieff’s demand that Van Loan withdraw his comments was met by Van Loan reading several of Ignatieff’s quotes into the record, including, “defeating terror requires violence” and. “It may also require coercion, secrecy, deception, even violation of rights.”

Stephane Dion, for Stephen Harper’s quip during Question Period that “I can understand that the leader of the Opposition and members of his party feel for Taliban prisoners. I just wish occasionally they’d show the same passion for Canadian soldiers.”

Mark “Nancy Drew” Holland is (according to National Newswatch) considering suing Sun Media columnist Ezra Levant, over Levant’s April 3rd column about Holland’s possession of dozens of confidential Conservative staff records.

Anybody else have any more...

[stignasty]

I think you might have confused "the entire country" with Michael Bluth.

[Martin Chriton]

Well two for Dion:

"Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion insisted yesterday that he will not stoop to negative attacks against Prime Minister Stephen Harper" (G&M) and a week or two later and he is running attack ads.

Dion insisting that he can meet the Kyoto targets, after he admitted a few years ago he wouldn't. "In 2008, I will be part of Kyoto, but I will say to the world I don't think I will make it." (National Post, July 1, 2006)

[Michael Bluth]

Well two for Dion:

"Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion insisted yesterday that he will not stoop to negative attacks against Prime Minister Stephen Harper" (G&M) and a week or two later and he is running attack ads.

Dion insisting that he can meet the Kyoto targets, after he admitted a few years ago he wouldn't. "In 2008, I will be part of Kyoto, but I will say to the world I don't think I will make it." (National Post, July 1, 2006)

My post was why people are laughing at the Liberals for their whiny demands for apologies.

Your post seems to by why people are laughing at Dion for his flip flopping.

[Argus]

Dion insisting that he can meet the Kyoto targets, after he admitted a few years ago he wouldn't. )

I bet he hasn't given any specifics about HOW.

[scribblet]

That is something he will have to be firmly questioned on, when on the campaign trail. The voters need specifics, not just hysterics and hyperbole.

[Figleaf]

...no matter what they say or do, anything the Government says or does leads to cries of outrage and demands for apologies.

Considering the uapologetic outrageousness of most everything Steve's government does, that's not so surprising.

[Michael Bluth]

Considering the uapologetic outrageousness of most everything Steve's government does, that's not so surprising.

Thank you Figleaf. In one sentence you succinctly represented the unfounded arrogance and complete lack of class of the Liberal caucus. You have proved the point in a way only a Liberal supporter could.

Most Canadians don't think that about *most everything* the Government of Prime Minister Harper has done.

[Fat Freddie]

...no matter what they say or do, anything the Government says or does leads to cries of outrage and demands for apologies.

Considering the uapologetic outrageousness of most everything Steve's government does, that's not so surprising.

Absolutely. Imagine that, accountability and answering for mishandling of society's funds. Damn those Conservatives to hell! I suppose you enjoyed watching the Liberals stuff money into personal bank accounts belonging to long time liberal friendly companies? I don't know about you, but I work hard for my money and knowing the "New" government wants people to answer for illegal activities makes me more comfortable, and willing, to part with tax dollars. If you want to let the government continue to steal from your working dollars, please by all means vote for the Liberals, but don't get too upset when they become a very small part of the next election results. I feel a majority coming on for the Harper government.

[Michael Bluth]

I don't know about you, but I work hard for my money and knowing the "New" government wants people to answer for illegal activities makes me more comfortable, and willing, to part with tax dollars. If you want to let the government continue to steal from your working dollars, please by all means vote for the Liberals, but don't get too upset when they become a very small part of the next election results. I feel a majority coming on for the Harper government.

Well said sir. A much better campaign message than the Liberals and their Paul Martin re-treads.

Still trying *scary* *scary* *scary*...

[Topaz]

Considering the uapologetic outrageousness of most everything Steve's government does, that's not so surprising.

Thank you Figleaf. In one sentence you succinctly represented the unfounded arrogance and complete lack of class of the Liberal caucus. You have proved the point in a way only a Liberal supporter could.

Most Canadians don't think that about *most everything* the Government of Prime Minister Harper has done.

You are correct, 37% that voted for HArper like you, think like you, that's not MOST Canadians.

[Michael Bluth]

You are correct, 37% that voted for HArper like you, think like you, that's not MOST Canadians.

Are you saying that every person who voted for a party other than the Conservatives think *most everything* Canada's New Government does is outrageous???

That's what Figleaf said. Ad you appear to be supporting.

[betsy]

Well two for Dion:

"Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion insisted yesterday that he will not stoop to negative attacks against Prime Minister Stephen Harper" (G&M) and a week or two later and he is running attack ads.

Dion insisting that he can meet the Kyoto targets, after he admitted a few years ago he wouldn't. "In 2008, I will be part of Kyoto, but I will say to the world I don't think I will make it." (National Post, July 1, 2006)

And in another scrum with the press regarding the environment, somebody asked about energy used in big houses and mansions, and Dion is quick to quip that his wife had the inspectors in to see how they can reduce energy consumption in their house. He's just doing that now? Well, what took him so long?

He should've at least done that at the very same time he named his dog Kyoto.

[Michael Bluth]

And in another scrum with the press regarding the environment, somebody asked about energy used in big houses and mansions, and Dion is quick to quip that his wife had the inspectors in to see how they can reduce energy consumption in their house. He's just doing that now? Well, what took him so long?

What took him so long?

He would actually have to be committed to the environment to have acted before it was politically advantageous to do so.

Do you really think Dion has ever acted out of conviction?

[gc1765]

And in another scrum with the press regarding the environment, somebody asked about energy used in big houses and mansions, and Dion is quick to quip that his wife had the inspectors in to see how they can reduce energy consumption in their house. He's just doing that now? Well, what took him so long?

What took him so long?

He would actually have to be committed to the environment to have acted before it was politically advantageous to do so.

Do you really think Dion has ever acted out of conviction?

How long ago did Harper ensure that his energy consumption is minimized?

[ScottSA]

How long ago did Harper ensure that his energy consumption is minimized?

Harper didn't run his entire campaign with the "environment" as it's centerpiece like Dion did. One would think that a leader who is so concerned with the environment might have chosen to invite the inspectors in sometime before the Liberal Leadership convention was called, but then I suppose the Liberal ethos is a bit more pragmatic than other people's.

[gc1765]

Harper didn't run his entire campaign with the "environment" as it's centerpiece like Dion did.

You don't think the environment has become a big priority for the Conservatives all of a sudden? It wasn't as big of a political issue during the last campaign, but now that it has become a huge issue, it has become a priority for the Conservatives all of a sudden. How's that for conviction?

[Martin Chriton]

Harper didn't run his entire campaign with the "environment" as it's centerpiece like Dion did.

You don't think the environment has become a big priority for the Conservatives all of a sudden? It wasn't as big of a political issue during the last campaign, but now that it has become a huge issue, it has become a priority for the Conservatives all of a sudden. How's that for conviction?

gc1765, a problem a lot of people have with the Liberals is they say one thing and do another. Anything Dion says at this point is worthless, he might as well not speak. He has lied and flip flopped on everything he has stood for. His words are meaningless.

I'd much rather support someone that does what he says he'll do. It's extremely surprising to me how some voters want politicians to promise stuff that will never get done.

[ScottSA]

Harper didn't run his entire campaign with the "environment" as it's centerpiece like Dion did.

You don't think the environment has become a big priority for the Conservatives all of a sudden? It wasn't as big of a political issue during the last campaign, but now that it has become a huge issue, it has become a priority for the Conservatives all of a sudden. How's that for conviction?

Well, I haven't seen any signs of it becoming the centerpiece of the Conservative campaign, and that's not really the point anyway. Harper didn't become PM by promising zero emmissions from every pot, to borrow a paraphrase from Huey Long, but Dion became the Liberal nominee by doing just that, so one would think that the inspections are a tad belated, don't you think? I mean Mother Theresa didn't grandly announce that she was going to live in poverty and save the children, and then commission studies on how to become poor and change diapers, did she?

[gc1765]

gc1765, a problem a lot of people have with the Liberals is they say one thing and do another. Anything Dion says at this point is worthless, he might as well not speak. He has lied and flip flopped on everything he has stood for. His words are meaningless.

I'd much rather support someone that does what he says he'll do. It's extremely surprising to me how some voters want politicians to promise stuff that will never get done.

You didn't answer my original question...

But I'll address your post nonetheless: I think all politicians say whatever it takes to get them elected. I don't think the environment would be a priority for either the Liberals or Conservatives if it wasn't a political issue (which it has become recently). If you think Harper is any different than Dion or any other politican, you are fooling yourself.

[ScottSA]

But I'll address your post nonetheless: I think all politicians say whatever it takes to get them elected. I don't think the environment would be a priority for either the Liberals or Conservatives if it wasn't a political issue (which it has become recently). If you think Harper is any different than Dion or any other politican, you are fooling yourself.

That's the best pro-Liberal apologia you can come up with? It's moved from "troops in the streets" to "they're just as bad as us"? That's certainly novel. Actually, it seems to me that on top of keeping more campaign promises in a year than the Liberals did in 13, Harper also broke through the decade long logjam over softwood and the decades long Japanese reparations. We've seen the Liberal supporters on here trying to come up with suitable outrages by the Evil Conservatives, but there just isn't much fodder and it ends up looking pretty silly.

[gc1765]

That's the best pro-Liberal apologia you can come up with? It's moved from "troops in the streets" to "they're just as bad as us"? That's certainly novel. Actually, it seems to me that on top of keeping more campaign promises in a year than the Liberals did in 13, Harper also broke through the decade long logjam over softwood and the decades long Japanese reparations. We've seen the Liberal supporters on here trying to come up with suitable outrages by the Evil Conservatives, but there just isn't much fodder and it ends up looking pretty silly.

How is it pro-Liberal to suggest that Dion (as well as Harper) says what it takes to get elected?

Can you honestly say with a straight face that Harper has conviction and will not say what it takes to get elected?

[gc1765]

Well, I haven't seen any signs of it becoming the centerpiece of the Conservative campaign

So, you don't think cutting emissions is important to the Conservatives?

[Shakeyhands]

Harper didn't run his entire campaign with the "environment" as it's centerpiece like Dion did.

You don't think the environment has become a big priority for the Conservatives all of a sudden? It wasn't as big of a political issue during the last campaign, but now that it has become a huge issue, it has become a priority for the Conservatives all of a sudden. How's that for conviction?

gc1765, a problem a lot of people have with the Liberals is they say one thing and do another. Anything Dion says at this point is worthless, he might as well not speak. He has lied and flip flopped on everything he has stood for. His words are meaningless.

I'd much rather support someone that does what he says he'll do. It's extremely surprising to me how some voters want politicians to promise stuff that will never get done.

this stuff looks and sounds like its right out of the 2004 RNC handbook.... sad.

[Who's Doing What?]

Harper didn't run his entire campaign with the "environment" as it's centerpiece like Dion did. One would think that a leader who is so concerned with the environment might have chosen to invite the inspectors in sometime before the Liberal Leadership convention was called, but then I suppose the Liberal ethos is a bit more pragmatic than other people's.

No Harper ran his campaign on integrity, ethics, accountability, and transparancy of Govt.

What a frigging JOKE that turned out to be.

BTW Nice thread Ricki, kind of shows...

Thank you Figleaf. In one sentence you succinctly represented the unfounded arrogance and (a) complete lack of class of the Liberal caucus. You have proved the point in a way only... Liberal supporter could.

... you could. Way to go!