Figleaf Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Stephen Harper is paid with public money. The Conservatives receive taxpayers' money for research staff. Are you suggesting that we should dictate how that money is spent? Nope. But some of way it is spent smells. Gotcha politics. And why should Dion worry about being taped? Is there something he wouldn't want us to know? Don't worry. If there isn't, I'm sure there's a tory team working on making something up. Quote
NowDefeatPoverty Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Harper is trying to figure out if Dion swings his way. That's all. Quote
jbg Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Don't worry. If there isn't, I'm sure there's a tory team working on making something up. If there isn't the Tory team is wasting a lot of time, and research budget. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Michael Bluth Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Harper is trying to figure out if Dion swings his way. That's all. Are you questioning Harper's sexual orientation? I thought the Conservatives were supposed to be the homophobes. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Canadian Blue Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 The same member that made that remark said all Conservative voters should be used for animal feed. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
scribblet Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 They allready have, probably used the money in their research budget too, guess you don't think thats 'evil' or whatever.... such over the top rhetoric doesn't give you credibility http://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics...7c49937&k=29733 While the Liberals have been caught themselves in the past hiring people to observe and record activities by Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe during the 2004 election, Del Torchio justified it, saying it was done during an election campaign. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
scribblet Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 ... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
jdobbin Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 They allready have, probably used the money in their research budget too, guess you don't think thats 'evil' or whatever.... such over the top rhetoric doesn't give you credibilityhttp://www.canada.com/topics/news/politics...7c49937&k=29733 While the Liberals have been caught themselves in the past hiring people to observe and record activities by Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe during the 2004 election, Del Torchio justified it, saying it was done during an election campaign. I believe that was done under Liberal party money rather than as a paid House of Commons staffer. Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I just liked the Pink Panther theme music. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Argus Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Yes, as a matter of fact. The Liberals did it. Not only did Chretien and Martin and assorted cabinet ministers use their government paid aides for political work but, as you will no-doubt recall, they had various people, such as advertising people and lawyers do free work for them during election campaigns and then rewarded them afterwards with government money and judgeships. And now the Tories are doing it too? That is your justification? I don't require any justification. What is your justification for whining about it now when you never did before, and when you never will again once your party is back in power? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I think you're the one letting pesky facts get in the way, like the fact that his email address on his card clearly shows it is <[email protected]>. Not conservative.ca. So your unsubstantiated claim that he doesn't work for parliament doesn't hold up, no matter what size of bold font you use. Didn't see that. Power to you. That fact changes everything. Not really. It just means he gets email on parliament hill. I would imagine all the government's aides and party workers who work out of there have similar email addresses. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 And why should Dion worry about being taped? Is there something he wouldn't want us to know? And should a Tory House of Commons staffer worry about being taped in return? Does he have something to hide? Staffers are not normally used to having cameras turned on them, not used to answering questions or being in the public eye. There are hordes of them working for all MPs on the Hill and you'll never see them on TV. Anyone who doesn't think the Liberals and NDP staffers are filming everything Harper does is childishly naive. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Figleaf Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I don't require any justification. Well, that's a relief, considering... Quote
Argus Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Harper is trying to figure out if Dion swings his way. That's all. And another towering Leftist intellectual joins the site. Great. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Posit Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 "I don't require any justification. What is your justification for whining about it now when you never did before, and when you never will again once your party is back in power?" That's lame and of course it was expected that the Harper apologists would come up with the "tit for tat" argument. Their savior can do no wrong. Yet it is criminal and no amount of justification of using tax dollars to spy on the opposition can be justified. That makes Harper worse than the rest - worse than liberals (if you can prove they did first) since he is well aware of the corrupt dealings within the previous Liberal party and still he continues on in their tradition. I find it ironic that you would apologize for Harper since he promised to get rid of such corruption and underhanded governance. If you were really interested in his values, his promises and his integrity as a leader, then you should be hopping mad for an explanation from the boss himself. Chretien and Martin could always point to others and say they couldn't be in charge of everyone. But we all know that Harper has his thumb on every decision and every action his New Government takes. That makes him directly accountable for this crime and makes his "new" government just a resurrection of all the other "old" governments. Quote
Charles Anthony Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Yet it is criminal and no amount of justification of using tax dollars to spy on the opposition can be justified.What exactly are you saying is criminal? Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
BubberMiley Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I don't require any justification. What is your justification for whining about it now when you never did before, and when you never will again once your party is back in power? There's a certain irony in that statement, considering the whining you did about corruption while the Libs were in power, and the fact that you're silent about it now. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
scribblet Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Let me see, this guy was doing what his job is - to work for the Conservative Research Group which is paid for technically by the commons. Which is - oh gee - to do research on the opposition. The Liberals also have the Liberal Research Bureau which is also paid for by the the commons who does the exact same thing - you know do research on the government and other opposition parties. The fact is that they are trying to paint this as something other than what it is in order create bad publicity before the budget. This video was made by the Liberal Research Bureau - you may disagree but it is is normal all parties do it. This whole thing is blown out of proportion and nothing but a smear campaign. Guess the Liberals have a lot to hide when they get their knickers in such a big knot over this. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Michael Bluth Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 I just liked the Pink Panther theme music. I'm glad the reporter from the Citizen told us the music is "catchy". Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
BC_chick Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Are you questioning Harper's sexual orientation?I thought the Conservatives were supposed to be the homophobes. I believe he was joking. Nonetheless, most latent homosexuals are in fact homophobes. Ted Haggart is a perfect example. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
madmax Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Harper is trying to figure out if Dion swings his way. That's all. Are you questioning Harper's sexual orientation? I thought the Conservatives were supposed to be the homophobes. You will notice in the sidebar beside the poster name that he/she has been banned. NowDefeatPoverty aka Baylee, Jenny and many more alias is banned once again. It is troll bait, don't bite. Quote
madmax Posted March 19, 2007 Report Posted March 19, 2007 Harper is trying to figure out if Dion swings his way. That's all. And another towering Leftist intellectual joins the site. Great. Just Baylee. Quote
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