Iran is the biggest nuclear threat of our time

[JerrySeinfeld]

Is it just me or are we absolutely insine to let this guy get his hands on a nuke?

[Black Dog]

Iran is the biggest nuclear threat of our time

Well, I wasn't convinced the first 5,000 times I heard about Alhalamjwearsarmyboots' outburst about Israel, but this article from two years ago totally changed my mind about Iran being a bigger nuclear threat than the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the PRC, North Korea and Pakistan (a country with lots of nukes, an extremely shaky regime, high levels of popular support for Islamist groups such as Al Qaeda and a history of supporting terrorism). Not only that, but the compelling argument that we should just not let Iran get nukes (would perhaps a firm "no", or a timeout suffice?) has totally convinced me of the power of wishes. The scales have fallen from my eyes, lord a-mighty I'm free at last.

[M.Dancer]

Iran is the biggest nuclear threat of our time

Well, I wasn't convinced the first 5,000 times I heard about Alhalamjwearsarmyboots' outburst about Israel, but this article from two years ago totally changed my mind about Iran being a bigger nuclear threat than the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the PRC, North Korea and Pakistan ..............

To be perectly honest, I worry far more about a regional ice storm that leaves us powerless in the middle of winter. To be left without heat for a week could be even more devasting than Katrina in LA. At least they had an opportunity to leave.....think of the massive amounts of damage as water pipes freeze and burst on a city wide scale....the fires caused by ignorance as families huddle together over parafin candles and hurrican lamps for heat...

On the brightside, the freezer is safe.....

That being said, I take the governement's 72 hours advice to heart... and keep enough food and water and propane for an emergency.....

[JerrySeinfeld]

Iran is the biggest nuclear threat of our time

Well, I wasn't convinced the first 5,000 times I heard about Alhalamjwearsarmyboots' outburst about Israel, but this article from two years ago totally changed my mind about Iran being a bigger nuclear threat than the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the PRC, North Korea and Pakistan (a country with lots of nukes, an extremely shaky regime, high levels of popular support for Islamist groups such as Al Qaeda and a history of supporting terrorism). Not only that, but the compelling argument that we should just not let Iran get nukes (would perhaps a firm "no", or a timeout suffice?) has totally convinced me of the power of wishes. The scales have fallen from my eyes, lord a-mighty I'm free at last.

Good to hear your coming around.

just to educate your really quickly:

1. MAD was a good deterrent for the ruskies - whereas Armageddon is a desirable part of the deal for the Imams in Iran.

2. North Korea already has 'em (didn't you know?)

3. Pakistan's leadership hasn't expressed the desire for Armegeddon.

4. Airstrikes can set back the research in Iran.

Game, Set, Match.

Now go back and study for your next post - I am wiping the floor with you in my down time while you scurry around the internet looking for creative lefty new ways to rationalize letting an Armageddonist kook get nukes.

[GostHacked]

Iran is the biggest nuclear threat of our time

Well, I wasn't convinced the first 5,000 times I heard about Alhalamjwearsarmyboots' outburst about Israel, but this article from two years ago totally changed my mind about Iran being a bigger nuclear threat than the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the PRC, North Korea and Pakistan (a country with lots of nukes, an extremely shaky regime, high levels of popular support for Islamist groups such as Al Qaeda and a history of supporting terrorism). Not only that, but the compelling argument that we should just not let Iran get nukes (would perhaps a firm "no", or a timeout suffice?) has totally convinced me of the power of wishes. The scales have fallen from my eyes, lord a-mighty I'm free at last.

Good to hear your coming around.

just to educate your really quickly:

1. MAD was a good deterrent for the ruskies - whereas Armageddon is a desirable part of the deal for the Imams in Iran.

2. North Korea already has 'em (didn't you know?)

3. Pakistan's leadership hasn't expressed the desire for Armegeddon.

4. Airstrikes can set back the research in Iran.

Game, Set, Match.

Now go back and study for your next post - I am wiping the floor with you in my down time while you scurry around the internet looking for creative lefty new ways to rationalize letting an Armageddonist kook get nukes.

North Korea has nukes yes, therefore rhetoric of peace talks and disarmament.

Lybia denouced terrorism (or so they say)

Pakistan supports terrorism, this country should be invaded after Saudi Arabia.

Airstikes will just accelerate the death of Isreal. And possibly the whole middle east.

Axis of EVIL indeed.

Black Dog is always studying, he is trying to devise away to teach the blind in this world. Also I know for a fact that Black Dog has offered much more substance to this forum than you have Jerry, like come the hell on, look at this post for example. A one liner jab about shit that was debunked last year. Oh sure you owned the Black Dog...

Jerry Sienfeld is a poster about nothing.

[PolyNewbie]

Ahmadinejad: Wipe Israel off map

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has openly called for Israel to be wiped off the map. Ahmadinejad addressed students at a conference

"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran on Wednesday, entitled The World without Zionism.

This is a lie. He was quoting someone else and did not say the Israel should be wiped off the map.

See Global Research for details and literal translation of what he did say.

STOP WATCHING TV AND READING CONTROLLED MEDIAS !!!!

[M.Dancer]

This is a lie. He was quoting someone else and did not say the Israel should be wiped off the map.

See Global Research for details and literal translation of what he did say.

STOP WATCHING TV AND READING CONTROLLED MEDIAS !!!!

So the exact quote is....

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

Which is tantamount to the exact same thing. Mind you, english speakers don't have the same romantic flair for hate speach as does the Iman....

[M.Dancer]

even as we speak, agents of iran are building a time ship top go back and wipe israel of the map of time......

[PolyNewbie]

As we speak USA is getting ready to attack Iran. What did Iran ever do to the USA ? Or Israel for that matter ?

The truth is that they do not have our private banking system and thats what the bankers are after and thats why we will go to war. Same as all the other wars. The IMF will finance a reconstruction after Iran is destroyed through corrupt US officials.

Iran will be hopelessly in debt to the IMF and will only get funding if they agree to USA / IMF terms. Corrupt governments will be put into place to allow the western banks to take over their money supply.

[Guthrie]

Ahmadinejad said that? Gee, I thought it was Schwarzennegger

[PolyNewbie]

The book Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man by John Perkins explains it all.

[PolyNewbie]

So the exact quote is....

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

Which is not at all similar to saying Israel should be wiped off the map. The USA I think is the greatest country in the world, however, I would like it if the Bush adminsitration wsn't around. Does this mean I want to destroy the USA ?

[M.Dancer]

So the exact quote is....

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

Which is not at all similar to saying Israel should be wiped off the map. The USA I think is the greatest country in the world, however, I would like it if the Bush adminsitration wsn't around. Does this mean I want to destroy the USA ?

What colour is the sky in your world?

[Black Dog]

Good to hear your coming around.

A, apparently you're as good at recognizing sarcasm as you are at making arguments. That is to say: not very.

1. MAD was a good deterrent for the ruskies - whereas Armageddon is a desirable part of the deal for the Imams in Iran.

Well, I certainly can't dispute your ability to make shit up. But perhaps you can tell me what actions the Iranians have taken over the past 25 years which would indicate this to be true. Not statements, not rhetoric: actions.

2. North Korea already has 'em (didn't you know?)

Which is why I listed them with the other bona fide nuclear powers above. Maybe I'm nuts, but I'd rank countries that have nukes as greater nuclear threats than potential nuclear states.

3. Pakistan's leadership hasn't expressed the desire for Armegeddon.

Ah, well, I guess we can dismiss the dangerous possibility of the regime falling to Islamist forces, or (given how buddy-buddy they've been with terrorists) passing on a nuke from their own arsenal, since they don't, you know, talk about it. And, as everyone knows, in the real world, what you do doesn't matter: it's what you say that counts.

4. Airstrikes can set back the research in Iran.

Maybe. Temporarily. Then what?

Now go back and study for your next post - I am wiping the floor with you in my down time while you scurry around the internet looking for creative lefty new ways to rationalize letting an Armageddonist kook get nukes.

Well, far be it from me to tear you away from the World of Warcraft...

Jerry Sienfeld is a poster about nothing.

I can't believe it took this long for someone to make that joke.

[JerrySeinfeld]

perhaps you can tell me what actions the Iranians have taken over the past 25 years which would indicate this to be true. Not statements, not rhetoric: actions.

Yes - I'm sure you're correct. When the leader of a country openly develops nuclear weapons, flouts the UN and openly desires armageddon, the prudent thing to do is...um...NOTHING

Which is why I listed them with the other bona fide nuclear powers above. Maybe I'm nuts, but I'd rank countries that have nukes as greater nuclear threats than potential nuclear states.

DOGGY you're contradicting yourself. I thought you were of the camp that says it's alreadya done deal:

Not only that, but the compelling argument that we should just not let Iran get nukes (would perhaps a firm "no", or a timeout suffice?) has totally convinced me of the power of wishes.

4. Airstrikes can set back the research in Iran.

Maybe. Temporarily. Then what?

More airstrikes

I can't believe it took this long for someone to make that joke.

Given the amount of time and effort you put into this thing, neither can I

Yet you still can't seem to muster a good point.

[Black Dog]

Yes - I'm sure you're correct. When the leader of a country openly develops nuclear weapons, flouts the UN and openly desires armageddon, the prudent thing to do is...um...NOTHING

Of course, nobody said we should do nothing. You're pulling that out of your ass, as per usual.

DOGGY you're contradicting yourself. I thought you were of the camp that says it's alreadya done deal:

That quote you cite? It does not say what you think it says. What I was doing was mocking your infantile assertion that we can stop Iran if from getting nukes...somehow (the details are none too clear). I think our ability to stop Iran from getting nukes if it wants is limited and that some courses of action are more likely than others to succeed (a military strike would be near the bottom, somewhere above prayer and well below diplomacy and bribery). That doesn't mean we can't do it, nor does it mean we're too late. Iran, by most estimates, is anywhere from two to 10 years from building a nuke.

More airstrikes

Because, as the old saying goes: "If at first you don't succeed and start a regional war that could wipe out your army in Iraq...." uh...how's the rets of that go?

Yet you still can't seem to muster a good point.

Oh Jerry, you little scamp you. Always with the projection.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Isn't it 4:30 in your parts? Shunt you be in the corner of the last "smoking allowed" coffee shop snivelling with the rest of the lefties?

[Figleaf]

Is it just me or are we absolutely insine to let this guy get his hands on a nuke?

Your question is misphrased. You mean, what should we be willing to do to prevent this guy from getting his hands on a nuke? I mean, no-one is really 'letting' it happen since Iran is doing it on its own.

Also, isn't is a bit premature to call it the biggest nuclear threat of our time ... they don't actually have an nukes after all.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Is it just me or are we absolutely insine to let this guy get his hands on a nuke?

Your question is misphrased. You mean, what should we be willing to do to prevent this guy from getting his hands on a nuke? I mean, no-one is really 'letting' it happen since Iran is doing it on its own.

True - but the UN and it's club of thugs and thug apologists is a complete joke.

[Figleaf]

This is a lie. He was quoting someone else and did not say the Israel should be wiped off the map.

See Global Research for details and literal translation of what he did say.

STOP WATCHING TV AND READING CONTROLLED MEDIAS !!!!

So the exact quote is....

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".

Which is tantamount to the exact same thing.

No, it's not. It's different in two important ways:

First, the false version implies a specific agency carrying out the action of 'wiping'. Wheras the true version merely expresses the idea of vanishing coming to pass, perhaps through evolution or divine provenance or some other passive process.

Second, the false version 'wiped off the map' implies a sort of violence, whereas the other lacks such an aggressive connotation.

[Figleaf]

Is it just me or are we absolutely insine to let this guy get his hands on a nuke?

Your question is misphrased. You mean, what should we be willing to do to prevent this guy from getting his hands on a nuke? I mean, no-one is really 'letting' it happen since Iran is doing it on its own.

True - but the UN and it's club of thugs and thug apologists is a complete joke.

True, the UN record is not one of unrelieved successes, but when you guys criticize it, I wonder what it is you expect it to be.

[sharkman]

I think Iran IS the biggest nuclear threat today, with a close second being NK. Iran's ranting against Israel is not defendable no matter how hard the apologists try. When Israel stated that Iran could be wiped off the map as well, the hypocrisy coming from Iran fans was hilarious.

[PolyNewbie]

I think the USA/international bankers is the biggest nuclear threat of today since they have stated that they will use nuclear weapons and they have used nuclear weapons in the past. They have no reason to invade Iran and Iran has a very reasonable desire to own nuclear weapons in a world populated with international banker puppet states like Israel and the USA.

[Guthrie]

In all of our written history, only one country has ever used nuclear weapons on another. It only happened twice but it was enough. That is, it was enough for all time - nuclear weapons, nuclear batteries and all nuclear industries should be shut down - once and for all, the threat can be eliminated merely by the application of common sense at the international level.

[GostHacked]

I think Iran IS the biggest nuclear threat today, with a close second being NK. Iran's ranting against Israel is not defendable no matter how hard the apologists try. When Israel stated that Iran could be wiped off the map as well, the hypocrisy coming from Iran fans was hilarious.

So someone like Kim Jong Ill of North Korea is not a threat eventhought it has nukes?

NEGOTIATIONS - DIPLOMACY ..... this seemed to have worked, but I doubt NKs actions are sincere. And they will backstab again like they have done in the past.

Iran does not have the nukes, but you are treating them like they do.

American Imperialism is what I fear the most.

Jerry is a poster about nothing.

Isn't it 4:30 in your parts? Shunt you be in the corner of the last "smoking allowed" coffee shop snivelling with the rest of the lefties?