OMG! Arar Compaigning for riches!

[mikedavid00]

Oh Wow i'm so mad and fired up!!

I just can't believe this is happeing in Canada! LOOK AT THIS:

http://www.maherarar.ca/legal%20team.php

He has his own LIBERAL RED WEBSITE WHERE HE IS SOLICITING SUPPORT SO HE CAN MAKE MILLIONS OF CANADIAN TAX PAYERS.

I'm so upset over this. I should launch a website to combat this. This should NOT BE HAPPENING in Canada.

[Black Dog]

There already is a thread on Maher Arar. Is this new one necessary?

[Figleaf]

Oh Wow i'm so mad and fired up!!

I just can't believe this is happeing in Canada! LOOK AT THIS:

http://www.maherarar.ca/legal%20team.php

He has his own LIBERAL RED WEBSITE WHERE HE IS SOLICITING SUPPORT SO HE CAN MAKE MILLIONS OF CANADIAN TAX PAYERS.

I'm so upset over this. I should launch a website to combat this. This should NOT BE HAPPENING in Canada.

Liberal Red, is it?

Nice drive-by there.

Look, is this ...

Tory blue?

[Canadian Blue]

Apparently it is, people enjoying making multiple threads on the same topic for no good reason whatsoever.

[sharkman]

That guy has some gall, suing the Cdn gov. and then asking for money from the people who will be paying any $$ he gets in a law suit. Pathetic.

[Black Dog]

Thanks for the link, but I can't see where I'm supposed to go to donate. Can you direct me there so I can contribute to this worthy cause?

Oh and I'll make sure to send this around so that it receives maximum attention.

[M.Dancer]

Thanks for the link, but I can't see where I'm supposed to go to donate. Can you direct me there so I can contribute to this worthy cause?

Oh and I'll make sure to send this around so that it receives maximum attention.

Quite right. He isn't asking for money at all.

He's asking that the truth be told.

http://www.maherarar.ca/get%20involved.php

[guyser]

Oh Wow i'm so mad and fired up!!

I just can't believe this is happeing in Canada! LOOK AT THIS:

http://www.maherarar.ca/legal%20team.php

He has his own LIBERAL RED WEBSITE WHERE HE IS SOLICITING SUPPORT SO HE CAN MAKE MILLIONS OF CANADIAN TAX PAYERS.

I'm so upset over this. I should launch a website to combat this. This should NOT BE HAPPENING in Canada.

Good! I hope he wins and it keeps you up at night !

(and frankly, if they did this to you, I would support you)

[mikedavid00]

Quite right. He isn't asking for money at all.

I guess the law suit is just a rumor and the lawyers are working for free.

[M.Dancer]

Quite right. He isn't asking for money at all.

I guess the law suit is just a rumor and the lawyers are working for free.

He has his own LIBERAL RED WEBSITE WHERE HE IS SOLICITING SUPPORT SO HE CAN MAKE MILLIONS OF CANADIAN TAX PAYERS.

Does it hurt?

To be in a country....

.....where being a scoundrel....

Is a protected right?

[Black Dog]

I guess the law suit is just a rumor and the lawyers are working for free.

Er...no. But you starte dthis thread bubbling with outrage because "(Arar is) SOLICITING SUPPORT SO HE CAN MAKE MILLIONS OF CANADIAN TAX PAYERS."

Yet there's nothing on his site asking for money, which means the only request is by implication. That's not "soliciting support", at least financially speaking.

[mikedavid00]

That's not "soliciting support", at least financially speaking.

Exactly my point. He is soliciting support.

[Black Dog]

Exactly my point. He is soliciting support.

But not money. If he's just looking for moral support, that's his perogative. In fact, even if he was soliciting financial support, SFW? That's his perogative too. You or any one else is under no obligation to donate money.

[watching&waiting]

That's not "soliciting support", at least financially speaking.

Exactly my point. He is soliciting support.

If that is your point, then you missed the target by a mile. You opening a new thread the way you did was wrong and against the rules. The hyperbola that you asage to is nothing but misinformation, and now you try to save face. You made a mistake you should just admit it. You will not get very much support here for your cause, as we all have been more politically aware of the whole Arar thing, that then makes it difficult for you to come and generate ill feelings over someone who has the right and moral obligation to sue our government. I can only assume that you are very young and have not lived most of life's experiences yet. Maybe sit back and read all you can and then see if all your points are still there.

[madmax]

Oh Wow i'm so mad and fired up!!

I just can't believe this is happeing in Canada! LOOK AT THIS:

http://www.maherarar.ca/legal%20team.php

He has his own LIBERAL RED WEBSITE WHERE HE IS SOLICITING SUPPORT SO HE CAN MAKE MILLIONS OF CANADIAN TAX PAYERS.

I'm so upset over this. I should launch a website to combat this. This should NOT BE HAPPENING in Canada.

I checked out the website. Your mad and fired up. I was very disappointed between your headline and the actual website.

[Black Dog]

Keep in mind that, a few days ago, mikedavid00 had no idea who Maher Arar was:

Was this the guy who got injured on the battlefield in Afgahnistan and came to Canada to get medical care from his injuries?

What's this Arar thing about and why is $37,000,000 of our taxes going to him and his family?

Most people would at least do a little homework before forming an opinion on something they, by their own admission, have no knowledge of. But....

[mikedavid00]

Keep in mind that, a few days ago, mikedavid00 had no idea who Maher Arar was:

Was this the guy who got injured on the battlefield in Afgahnistan and came to Canada to get medical care from his injuries?

What's this Arar thing about and why is $37,000,000 of our taxes going to him and his family?

Most people would at least do a little homework before forming an opinion on something they, by their own admission, have no knowledge of. But....

I know the story now and it's almost a farse.. it's a political game of wealth and politics in one.

We need to get our country back on track and get him and his family OUT!

[Canuck E Stan]

I know the story now and it's almost a farse.. it's a political game of wealth and politics in one.

Sounds like a movie trailer intro.

Coming to a theatre near you.

[bk59]

I know the story now and it's almost a farse.. it's a political game of wealth and politics in one.

We need to get our country back on track and get him and his family OUT!

By all means, please give us a quick summary of what happened to Mr. Arar.

And please tell us why you feel that when a Canadian citizen is detained and then wrongly sent to and detained in a foreign country in part because of mistakes made by the Canadian government there shouldn't be some form of compensation and request for an inquiry?

[mikedavid00]

I know the story now and it's almost a farse.. it's a political game of wealth and politics in one.

We need to get our country back on track and get him and his family OUT!

By all means, please give us a quick summary of what happened to Mr. Arar.

And please tell us why you feel that when a Canadian citizen is detained and then wrongly sent to and detained in a foreign country in part because of mistakes made by the Canadian government there shouldn't be some form of compensation and request for an inquiry?

NEW EVIDENCE REGARDING ARAR. WAS GOING TO POST IN NEW THREAD

CAIR-Canada has repeated the "Big-Lie" for so long now that the story is being accepted as the truth when dealing with the Mehar Arar deportation

from N.Y. to the middle east.

Here's the FACTS that CAIR is hiding:

Arar came to Canada when he was 17 and claimed "Refugee" status as a victim of oppression and a threat to his life in the Middle East where he was born. He did this to aviod the military which is not sufficient grounds for refugee status in the USA.

Arar has gone back to the Middle East before since Refugee's only need to wait up to 6 months

after the claim to return to the Country of oppression.

Arar quickly married to assure his stay in Canada which is the normal practice by refugee's

along with the scam of producing a baby in Canada

for the calim of it being Canadian. (an American wrote all this btw)

Arar visited Tunisia with his wife and two kids

but upon return his trail was different from his wifes return,he showed up in N.Y. to connect to a flight to Canada and was questioned about this odd vacation where he abandoned his kids and traveled along.

Arar stated in a TV special that he was well treated by the FBI and got a comfortable private jets and excellent food on his deportation flight

out od the USA.

Arar was sent to "JORDAN" and not the "SYRIA" claim made by CAIR-Canada,blind-folded,he said he was taken in a SUV and put in a Syrian jail where he now "ALLEGES" he was tortured.

Arar has not produced one shread of evidence that he suffered from the torture and his Public Press-Releases with his Lawyer appeared "Scripted" and very vivid and detailed for someone having PTSD.

Arar's Lawyer launched a $400 Million dollar suit against Canadians for his ordeal even though the USA sent him to Jordan and they sent him to his Native Country which he still held a Citizenship while now proclaiming to be a loyal Canadian wanting his kids to be proud Canadians too.

[bk59]

NEW EVIDENCE REGARDING ARAR. WAS GOING TO POST IN NEW THREAD

Source?

The first few points are pure conjecture. Why did he claim refugee status? Why did he marry? Your post assumes the worst without any proof. "The scam of producing a baby"? I probably should have stopped reading there since the author seems to be on the fringe. In fact, I'll stop my criticism there & wait for any info about the source of this post.

I appreciate the bigger font, but feel free to use normal size from now on; I think we can all read it just fine.

[mikedavid00]

NEW EVIDENCE REGARDING ARAR. WAS GOING TO POST IN NEW THREAD

Source?

The first few points are pure conjecture. Why did he claim refugee status? Why did he marry? Your post assumes the worst without any proof. "The scam of producing a baby"? I probably should have stopped reading there since the author seems to be on the fringe. In fact, I'll stop my criticism there & wait for any info about the source of this post.

I appreciate the bigger font, but feel free to use normal size from now on; I think we can all read it just fine.

Shortly after Maher Arar was returned to Canada but before he spoke to the press, Canadian officials told CTV News that:

while in custody in Syria for almost a year, Canadian Maher Arar provided information to the Syrians about al Qaeda cells operating in Canada.

They say Arar also provided information about the Muslim Brotherhood, a radical Islamic group linked to Osama bin Laden, and information about four other Canadians: Arwad al-Bushi, a Syrian-born Canadian being held in a Syrian jail; Abdullah al Malki, another Syrian-born Canadian being held in Syria; Ahmad Abou-el-Maati, an Eyptian Canadian in custody in Egypt; and Mohamed Harkat, born in Algeria, who is being held under an anti-terrorism security certificate at the Ottawa Detention Centre....

Sources told CTV News the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) has received the transcripts of the Syrian interrogation of Arar. (Source: CTV transcript, 10/24/03.

[bk59]

Shortly after Maher Arar was returned to Canada but before he spoke to the press, Canadian officials told CTV News that:

while in custody in Syria for almost a year, Canadian Maher Arar provided information to the Syrians about al Qaeda cells operating in Canada.

They say Arar also provided information about the Muslim Brotherhood, a radical Islamic group linked to Osama bin Laden, and information about four other Canadians: Arwad al-Bushi, a Syrian-born Canadian being held in a Syrian jail; Abdullah al Malki, another Syrian-born Canadian being held in Syria; Ahmad Abou-el-Maati, an Eyptian Canadian in custody in Egypt; and Mohamed Harkat, born in Algeria, who is being held under an anti-terrorism security certificate at the Ottawa Detention Centre....

Sources told CTV News the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) has received the transcripts of the Syrian interrogation of Arar. (Source: CTV transcript, 10/24/03.

Well as confident as I am in the unnamed "sources" and unnamed "Canadian officials", and their quotes that were given years ago, perhaps you should take a look at the results of the Arar Commission. Here is a link to the press releases page of the Commission. Download the PDF for September 18, 2006 - the press release for the release of the factual inquiry. You may want to draw your attention to this quote:

On Maher Arar, the Commissioner comes to one important conclusion: “I am able to say categorically that there is no evidence to indicate that Mr. Arar has committed any offence or that his activities constitute a threat to the security of Canada.

The public can be confident that Canadian investigators have thoroughly and exhaustively followed all information leads available to them in connection with Mr. Arar’s activities and associations. This was not a case where investigators were unable to effectively pursue their investigative goals because of a lack of resources or time constraints. On the contrary, Canadian investigators made extensive efforts to find any information that could implicate Mr. Arar in terrorist activities. They did so over a lengthy period of time, even after Mr. Arar’s case became a cause célèbre. The results speak for themselves: they found none.”

Were there any other reasons why you want to kick a Canadian citizen out of the country after it has been found that mistakes by the Canadian government and its agencies (the RCMP) caused him to be detained in Syria for months?

[August1991]

MikeDavid. Please, please stop the BIG LOUD FONTS.

You destroy your otherwise good case in this kind of forum with such tactics. I was tempted to support your argument but now I'm going to walk away.

Your spelling is atrocious, your grammar bad. You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. T'es pas sortable.

[mikedavid00]

MikeDavid. Please, please stop the BIG LOUD FONTS.

You destroy your otherwise good case in this kind of forum with such tactics. I was tempted to support your argument but now I'm going to walk away.

Your spelling is atrocious, your grammar bad. You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. T'es pas sortable.

Well I type fast. I should slow down and watch my spelling true. My grammar is something that will triple my posting time if I have to constantly correct it. (improper grammar on that last sentace see?)

Also, I'm finding out more about him.

It turns out that he was only a computer 'technician' with computers. He lived in an aparment building, and his wife spent most of her time in school.

He improperly claimed refugee status.

I want to chat with my Syrian friend and record the conversation and you'll see what people in his community think about him.

More stuff I'm learnign about Arar:

"In August of 2001, truck driver Ahmad Abou El-Maati is stopped at the U.S.-Canada border. Guards find in his 18 wheeler "a schematic map of Ottawa marking government buildings and nuclear research facilities." He is interrogated for eight hours, and denies owning the map--but he later showed it to a friend:

“He showed me the map. And the map had literally all kinds of government installations,”

((Globe and Mail, 1/16/04)

"Connection to Maher Arar:

a. Arar has said through a spokeswoman that he "once bumped into Mr. El-Maati in a mechanic's garage in Ottawa. (Source: Globe and Mail, 12/31/03)."