Layton Says US Elections a Wake Up Call for Tories

[gerryhatrick]

"Ordinary Americans have sent the Republicans the message ... that they do not support the war in Iraq." - Jack Layton in the House

Layton Says US Elections a Wake Up Call for Tories

Jack Layton says Americans have sent a strong signal to the Bush administration by giving Democrats power in the US House of Representatives and the Senate.

And the NDP leader is warning Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the Conservatives could face the same political fate as the Republicans.

Layton suggests the war in Iraq had a lot to do with the Republicans defeat.

http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=2&nid=44368

Look at this exchange in the house. Stephen Harper is up to his despicable trick of equating the mission with support for the soldiers.

Hon. Jack Layton (Toronto—Danforth, NDP): Mr. Speaker, on Tuesday, average Americans sent a very strong message to George Bush indicating that they thought his war in Iraq was wrong. Every day we see more and more Canadians speaking out with their concerns about the Liberal-Conservative mission in Kandahar.

The Liberals and the Prime Minister do not have the support of average Canadians when it comes to the mission in Afghanistan.

Will the Prime Minister finally rethink this unbalanced and ill-defined mission before he meets the same fate as his southern cousin?

Right Hon. Stephen Harper (Prime Minister, CPC): Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the concern the leader of the NDP has for my fate.

That said, regardless of what happens in the United States, our role here is to support our Canadian men and women in uniform. I understand that is what the leader of the NDP in Nova Scotia did yesterday in supporting an all party resolution. Darrell Dexter said, “Our job here in this province is to support our soldiers and our military personnel”. That is the job of Canadians in every province and in every party.

Hon. Jack Layton (Toronto—Danforth, NDP): Mr. Speaker, there are reasons why more and more Canadians are opposed to the war in Afghanistan. The mission is unbalanced, there is no exit strategy and there is no measure of success. It is a mission that just is not working. Ordinary Americans have sent the Republicans the message that they do not support the war in Iraq.

Will the Prime Minister finally change the direction of the Afghanistan mission and rethink it, as needs to be done?

Right Hon. Stephen Harper (Prime Minister, CPC): Mr. Speaker, once again, the Afghanistan mission is a United Nations mission, and is supported by almost all of the countries in the world. It is supported by the government and people of Afghanistan. It is important that we always support our soldiers.

Before Remembrance Day, when we remember our veterans, I have to say that it is important to support our troops when they are in the armed forces as they are at present.

http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/P...nsard&Ses=1

He even brings up Remembrance Day.

I've posted on this behaviour by our Prime Minister in the past. Not only is he still doing it, he's cranked it into high gear. Absolutely sickening.

[sharkman]

Typical Layton, trying to make something out of nothing. It was the US ELECTION Jackie, and someting you swhould be well aware of since you take every opportunity to distance Canada from them the rest of the time.

[geoffrey]

Was Jack wearing a white poppy?

He figures we should just bend over and take it from whoever threatens us. No respect for our mutual defense agreement through NATO either.

I love how the socialists helping hand ends at our country's boarder. What ignorant hypocrits. Raise foreign aid, but God forbid we ever help someone. A Canadian is worth 100x more in their eyes than anyone else.

[gerryhatrick]

Was Jack wearing a white poppy?

He figures we should just bend over and take it from whoever threatens us. No respect for our mutual defense agreement through NATO either.

I love how the socialists helping hand ends at our country's boarder. What ignorant hypocrits. Raise foreign aid, but God forbid we ever help someone. A Canadian is worth 100x more in their eyes than anyone else.

Geoffrey you're usually such a rational guy. You let your emotions get the better of you this time.

[bradco]

"Stephen Harper is up to his despicable trick of equating the mission with the house support for the soldiers" and Jack Layton is up to no good trying to equate Iraq with Afghanistan. While Harper is being a little trickster I think despicable is a little harsh a word, no? I think Laytons attempt to compare Iraq and Afghanistan is more dishonest just as Bush is being dishonest when he groups them into the same conflict as well. For a guy who loves to be different than Bush this is an interesting similarity.

"Geoffrey you're usually such a rational guy. You let your emotions get the better of you this time."

Im definetly with Geoffrey on this one. Jack Layton will be the first to talk about needing to live up to international agreements: Kyoto, NAFTA etc so why when it comes to our defense agreement through NATO does he refuse to have us honour our commitment? Thats a little hypocritical.

Geofrrey's critique of socialists is also bang on. The NDP loves to talk about the need for social housing and other programs for Canadians but with billions of people starving to death and dieing from genocides and terrorism he doesnt seem to care all that much. Im not sure its because they equate a Canadian live to be worth more or just that they are stuck in some imaginary world where handing out candy will stop genocides.

[Ricki Bobbi]

"Stephen Harper is up to his despicable trick of equating the mission with the house support for the soldiers" and Jack Layton is up to no good trying to equate Iraq with Afghanistan. While Harper is being a little trickster I think despicable is a little harsh a word, no? I think Laytons attempt to compare Iraq and Afghanistan is more dishonest just as Bush is being dishonest when he groups them into the same conflict as well. For a guy who loves to be different than Bush this is an interesting similarity.

"Geoffrey you're usually such a rational guy. You let your emotions get the better of you this time."

You win today's emperor has no clothes award!

Good work at pointing out hypocrisy on the board!

[gerryhatrick]

Good work at pointing out hypocrisy on the board!

what hypocrisy?

[bradco]

Good work at pointing out hypocrisy on the board!

what hypocrisy?

ummm post #5 i guess

Why does Layton rip into Bush for all sorts of things and then follow his moronic path of equating Iraq and Afghanistan?

also,

"Im definetly with Geoffrey on this one. Jack Layton will be the first to talk about needing to live up to international agreements: Kyoto, NAFTA etc so why when it comes to our defense agreement through NATO does he refuse to have us honour our commitment?"

[margrace]

Here is what Tony Clements is asking his constituants. Remeber this guy only won by 23 votes. Something like landslide Ermie.

Do you support Canadian Troops in Afghanistan where they are fighting to secure freedom and rights for the Afghan People.

I found this very insulting, I have always supported our Canadian Troops who are peace keepers. To infere otherwise gives on a good look at Shrub and his worship of the Bush.

[Canuck E Stan]

I found this very insulting, I have always supported our Canadian Troops who are peace keepers.

On this day,put on your best white poppy and head off to your local Legion and show it to the "Peace keepers" there.

[scribblet]

To infere otherwise gives on a good look at Shrub and his worship of the Bush.

Huh ! Shrub and his worhip of the Bush....what on earth does that mean. Who is Shrub and who on earth worships Bush?

[gerryhatrick]

I think despicable is a little harsh a word, no?

I don't. I would like to use a few more choice ones, but I'd be followed around for a month being reminded about it!

It is truely despicable to use the troops in this fashion.

He has blatently done it in the past:

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....0&hl=harper

The troops have the support of the vast majority of Canadians. To suggest the troops lose support when the mission loses support IS despicable.

[Ricki Bobbi]

Do you support Canadian Troops in Afghanistan where they are fighting to secure freedom and rights for the Afghan People.

I found this very insulting, I have always supported our Canadian Troops who are peace keepers.

So you don't support our troops who fought in World War I, World War II or Korea? None of those were peace-keeping missions either. Very disrespectful...

[bradco]

Do you support Canadian Troops in Afghanistan where they are fighting to secure freedom and rights for the Afghan People.

I found this very insulting, I have always supported our Canadian Troops who are peace keepers.

So you don't support our troops who fought in World War I, World War II or Korea? None of those were peace-keeping missions either. Very disrespectful...

Infected by the myth that we are a nation of "peacekeeping". You need to make peace before you can keep it.

[Cameron]

Do you support Canadian Troops in Afghanistan where they are fighting to secure freedom and rights for the Afghan People.

I found this very insulting, I have always supported our Canadian Troops who are peace keepers.

So you don't support our troops who fought in World War I, World War II or Korea? None of those were peace-keeping missions either. Very disrespectful...

Here! Here! Very well put.

Let me put this to all the "peacekeeper lovin' people" out there. What would you have Canadians do in Afghanistan. AND what would you do about the Tabilan in the south?

[Wilber]

Despicable, despicable, despicable. Gerry, please find another word. How about reprehensible or contemptible? I'm having visions of Daffy Duck.

[B. Max]

Layton Says US Elections a Wake Up Call for Tories

Yes it is, they had better start being conservatives or they will be gone. Looking up the UN's butt to see if they can see John Chretien's feet is not being conservative.

[Topaz]

I have a saying, Supports the troops always but NOT the government! The Liberals sent them there BUT it was Harper than expanded the mission and whatever happens falls at Harper feet! Harper should have had a debate about expanding the timeline but he didn't and that was the mistake he made.

[B. Max]

I have a saying, Supports the troops always but NOT the government! The Liberals sent them there BUT it was Harper than expanded the mission and whatever happens falls at Harper feet! Harper should have had a debate about expanding the timeline but he didn't and that was the mistake he made.

Who would you debate with, the Taliban or Al Qaeda.

[gerryhatrick]

Despicable, despicable, despicable. Gerry, please find another word. How about reprehensible or contemptible? I'm having visions of Daffy Duck.

Whatever.

Contemptible, reprehensible, pitiful, disgusting, ignoble, abhorrent, abominable, detestable, loathsome, odious, repugnant, repulsive; disgraceful, dishonorable, shameful; base, ignoble, low, mean; shabby, sordid, squalid, vile; cowardly, craven, dastardly.

take your pick.

[ft.niagara]

Despicable, despicable, despicable. Gerry, please find another word. How about reprehensible or contemptible? I'm having visions of Daffy Duck.

How about a thesaurus for Christmas. Daffy has no lips so alot of juices followed his 'despicable'.

[Cameron]

Despicable, despicable, despicable. Gerry, please find another word. How about reprehensible or contemptible? I'm having visions of Daffy Duck.

Whatever.

Contemptible, reprehensible, pitiful, disgusting, ignoble, abhorrent, abominable, detestable, loathsome, odious, repugnant, repulsive; disgraceful, dishonorable, shameful; base, ignoble, low, mean; shabby, sordid, squalid, vile; cowardly, craven, dastardly.

take your pick.

Calm down Gerry

[gerryhatrick]

Calm down Gerry

Uh, yeah. Sure.

[Canadian Blue]

Do you support Canadian Troops in Afghanistan where they are fighting to secure freedom and rights for the Afghan People.

I found this very insulting, I have always supported our Canadian Troops who are peace keepers. To infere otherwise gives on a good look at Shrub and his worship of the Bush.

Canada has never been a peacekeeping nation, we will engage in peacekeeping from time to time but that is not our main overall objective. We have been involved in combat mission's in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Korea, Europe, etc. In some cases peacekeeping has proven to be a failure [Rwanda]. The CF is in place to defend Canadian interests, at home and abroad.

If you hear any politician refer to our proud peacekeeping heritage, be reminded he is full of BS. While we have preformed admirably with the UN, we have done just as many roles with NATO, and have constantly shown that we have a well disciplined fighting force.

Who is Shrub?

Why is Shrub worshipping Bush?

[cybercoma]

The distance from Kabul, Afghanistan to Baghdad, Iraq is 2297kms (as the crow flies).

Jack Layton is talking to hear himself talk. The American people's voice against Iraq has absolutely nothing to do with the Canadian people's opinion on Afghanistan.

Very stupid to draw comparisons here.