M.Dancer Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 Well, Let me start that I stand 100% behind the freedom of finger. I remeber giving the finger once as the Mulroney motorcade stopped traffic to take him and Mila shoe shopping....and I once gave the finger to Bob Rae as his limo cut me off at Spadina and Harbord......... ......On the otherhand, there's a time and place for everything, and flipping the bird, as the yankees say, should not be done in front of children. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ernational/home Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
America1 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 Well, Let me start that I stand 100% behind the freedom of finger. I remeber giving the finger once as the Mulroney motorcade stopped traffic to take him and Mila shoe shopping....and I once gave the finger to Bob Rae as his limo cut me off at Spadina and Harbord...............On the otherhand, there's a time and place for everything, and flipping the bird, as the yankees say, should not be done in front of children. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ernational/home Giving the finger to the President infront of a bus full of kids is wrong no matter what party the President is from. I would have expected the same if it happened with Clinton. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 Giving the finger to the President infront of a bus full of kids is wrong no matter what party the President is from. I would have expected the same if it happened with Clinton. Why is it wrong? Because it's the president? Or because it was in front of the kids? Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 3, 2006 Author Report Posted November 3, 2006 Giving the finger to the President infront of a bus full of kids is wrong no matter what party the President is from. I would have expected the same if it happened with Clinton. Why is it wrong? Because it's the president? Or because it was in front of the kids? My opinion is becasue of the kids. I can't abide people who swear in font of children. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Black Dog Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 My opinion is becasue of the kids. I can't abide people who swear in font of children. They were junior high kids. They've seen and done worse. Quote
M.Dancer Posted November 3, 2006 Author Report Posted November 3, 2006 My opinion is becasue of the kids. I can't abide people who swear in font of children. They were junior high kids. They've seen and done worse. Where do you see that? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
America1 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 Giving the finger to the President infront of a bus full of kids is wrong no matter what party the President is from. I would have expected the same if it happened with Clinton. Why is it wrong? Because it's the president? Or because it was in front of the kids? Both. It's wrong to use that gesture infront ogf kids and it's wrong to use that gesture towards the President in fron of kids. You should repect the office of President even if you don't respect the man. You have an issue with that? Quote
America1 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 My opinion is becasue of the kids. I can't abide people who swear in font of children. They were junior high kids. They've seen and done worse. how the hell do you know what they have or haven't done. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 Where do you see that? It's not in the article, but come on: it's 2006. Chances are, a great many children will have seen a man having sex with a goat on the internet before they are 10. I don't think the "bird" is a big shocker. To wit. Both.It's wrong to use that gesture infront ogf kids and it's wrong to use that gesture towards the President in fron of kids. You should repect the office of President even if you don't respect the man. You have an issue with that? Yes. First: he's a democratically-elected (well...bear with me here) representative of th epeople, not a king. And while it may be inappropriate to flip him off, I don't see it as a crime worthy of dismissal. Second: I don't recall much of that "respect the office" stuff going around when Clinton was being called a rapist and a murderer and when the papers and airwaves were filled with lurid speculation about the apperance of the Presidential Schlong. And, if I remember right, the same people engaging in such behaviour were from the same side of the fence as those who are overcome wih the vapours whenever someone wears an anti-Bush shirt or makes a imprudent gesture in his direction. Finally, well, some things speak for themselves. Quote
myata Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 Well, Let me start that I stand 100% behind the freedom of finger. I remeber giving the finger once as the Mulroney motorcade stopped traffic to take him and Mila shoe shopping....and I once gave the finger to Bob Rae as his limo cut me off at Spadina and Harbord...............On the otherhand, there's a time and place for everything, and flipping the bird, as the yankees say, should not be done in front of children. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ernational/home Well, I guess they're withing their right, they don't have the "freedom of jesture" enshrined in the Constitution yet, at least, as far as I know. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Figleaf Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 (edited) ] Edited July 19, 2007 by Figleaf Quote
betsy Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 As an adult in charge of those youths in her bus (just like a teacher in charge of her students in her class), she has a responsibility to set a good example. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 Generaly from what I encounter, kids are more potty mouthed than ever. And kids know more about obsenities, sex and other shit from the Internet indeed. I'd give Bush the finger for sure. How can one respect the office of the president when he is a complete idiot? I don't think Bush respects much. So screw him . Fired for that? That seems way to extreme for the 'crime'. Quote
KrustyKidd Posted November 4, 2006 Report Posted November 4, 2006 As an adult in charge of those youths in her bus (just like a teacher in charge of her students in her class), she has a responsibility to set a good example. Well said. Kids all waving at the President's motorcade, half of them probably don't even know who he is and the driver has to play snitty bitch. I'd say she has some stability issues to begin with. Wondering though, who will replace her? Around here, drivers are hard to find - looney left or hard right. Quote We're Paratroopers Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded - CPT Richard Winters
PocketRocket Posted November 6, 2006 Report Posted November 6, 2006 From the article.... The bus driver was not terminated for making an obscene gesture at the president. The bus driver was terminated for making an obscene gesture in view of the students,” Ms. Niegowski said. “That's not the role modelling we need for our students. Now they're holding up school-bus drivers as role models??? Laughable. It would be one occupation that most would avoid more vehemently than they would a position as toilet-cleaner. Quote I need another coffee
M.Dancer Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Posted November 6, 2006 Giving the finger to the President infront of a bus full of kids is wrong no matter what party the President is from. I would have expected the same if it happened with Clinton. Why is it wrong? Because it's the president? Or because it was in front of the kids? Both. It's wrong to use that gesture infront ogf kids and it's wrong to use that gesture towards the President in fron of kids. You should repect the office of President even if you don't respect the man. You have an issue with that? the freedom to be disrespectful to politicians in office is what separates us from slaves. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
M.Dancer Posted November 6, 2006 Author Report Posted November 6, 2006 Where do you see that? It's not in the article, but come on: it's 2006. Chances are, a great many children will have seen a man having sex with a goat on the internet before they are 10. I don't think the "bird" is a big shocker. So as far as you know they could be in grades 1 or 2.....I don't thing rude gestures is on the syllabus at that age.....teaching them to despise those who would lord over them shouldn't be taught until they are ready to pay taxes.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
BHS Posted November 16, 2006 Report Posted November 16, 2006 Well, I guess they're withing their right, they don't have the "freedom of jesture" enshrined in the Constitution yet, at least, as far as I know. First Amendment ring any bells? But you're right in that free speech rights don't protect you from being fired for something you said in the workplace that goes against company policy. Generaly from what I encounter, kids are more potty mouthed than ever. And kids know more about obsenities, sex and other shit from the Internet indeed. I'd give Bush the finger for sure. How can one respect the office of the president when he is a complete idiot? I don't think Bush respects much. So screw him . That's funny. Quote "And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong." * * * "Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog
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