Free Advice to Peter MacKay

Ladyjen · October 20, 2006

I trust my dog to be faithful a hell of a lot more than most humans.

I'll second that! And even my CAT!

cybercoma · October 21, 2006

who cares? A lot worse has been said during Q&A.

Fuddle duddle.

DEFLECT!!!!!!!!!!! DEFLECT!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. What MacKay said was stupid, but the same type of scorn wouldn't have been shown to half a these posters' party of choice for worse things being said. If MacKay is not fit for office, then neither was Trudeau for telling an MP to fuck off. Which means he shouldn't be labelled as one of the greatest PMs of all time by the same people who are slamming MacKay.

MightyAC · October 21, 2006

who cares? A lot worse has been said during Q&A.

Fuddle duddle.

DEFLECT!!!!!!!!!!! DEFLECT!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. What MacKay said was stupid, but the same type of scorn wouldn't have been shown to half a these posters' party of choice for worse things being said. If MacKay is not fit for office, then neither was Trudeau for telling an MP to fuck off. Which means he shouldn't be labelled as one of the greatest PMs of all time by the same people who are slamming MacKay.

Nah, a fuss is raised anytime a politician acts inappropriately. As to your Trudeau comment all politicians seem big/better in time.

Trudeau, Mulrooney, Pearson, John A., Reagan, Clinton. These guys all had some big problems in their time at the top but seem somehow better now.... well, maybe Brian needs a few more years...but he'll be remembered fondly one day.

blueblood · October 21, 2006

Is this some kind of a joke? Peter Mackay doesn't owe her anything, he's allowed to say what he wants. That's like saying an MP from rural Canada is a backwoods redneck. What's even the point of him apologizing, it's not like he's going to mean it so it won't hold water. when any person goes into parliament getting a cheap shot levelled against you is common place, a person should expect that and being a woman shouldn't make you exempt from that, don't take it personally and level one back, it's not like Peter hasn't had a cheap shot levelled against him. I thought it was an amazing burn myself. Peter Mackay shouldn't deny what he said that's not cool, just admit to it and be done. I personally don't care about "looking or acting professional" in my eyes being a professional is actually getting the job done. Peter Mackay can be the biggest sexist bastard around, but if he does a good job I'd rather have that than a mr. nice guy whose utterly incompetant. If I were Belinda I'd be on Duffy going Woof Woof and make Mackay look even stupider instead of looking like a big suck.

Ricki Bobbi · October 21, 2006

Here's what was said on the news tonight.

Liberal MP to MacKay: "What about your dog?"

MacKay: "You already have her."

That was what is being interpreted as MacKay calling Stronach a dog. whatever :lol:

Shakeyhands · October 21, 2006

Here's what was said on the news tonight.
Liberal MP to MacKay: "What about your dog?"

MacKay: "You already have her."

That was what is being interpreted as MacKay calling Stronach a dog. whatever

you leave out him motioning to her empty seat while doing so. If you don't see an issue with that, well...

Figleaf · October 21, 2006

Being too much of a coward to face the heat, and then lying about it instead, looks worse than the original bad joke, if you ask me.

So this is strike two for Mackay in the area of public exposure of lack of integrity.

So I wonder how many wrongful convictions he may have orchestrated while he was a crown prosecutor.

jdobbin · October 21, 2006

you leave out him motioning to her empty seat while doing so. If you don't see an issue with that, well...

A few more lost women votes.

Wilber · October 21, 2006

Mackay and Stronach had a break up that wasn't amicable, personally or politically. It is not surprising if a few shots are exchanged, possibly the odd one below the belt. I daresay that if they didn't both have to cater to voters, it would be nastier.

MacKay is at a distinct disadvantage here, being a white Anglo male he can't pull out either the R card or the S card. Stronach has decided to play the S card.

Belinda is a person who has aspired to be the leader of a party and hopefully the leader of the country. If she can't exchange insults Mano a Mano she shouldn't be there. Resorting to the label of Racist or Sexist is often the last resort of someone who can't come up with anything better, politicians in particular.

Canuck E Stan · October 21, 2006

Would it be too much to apologise?

I agree, Peter please apologise to the canine of the world, they don't deserve this kind of comparison.

Argus · October 21, 2006

Hiding behind the fact that it wasn't written in the record of Hansard is a weak excuse..

It's not written down, the speaker didn't hear it, the clerks went over the audio record carefully and didn't hear it either.

What, we're supposed to take the word of LIBERALS?

Do you know that one of the major components of becoming a Liberal candidate is a test to see how good you can lie? Honest!

Ricki Bobbi · October 21, 2006

you leave out him motioning to her empty seat while doing so. If you don't see an issue with that, well...

He motioned to her seat. Wow - that is now definitive proof that he called her a dog?! :lol:

It is sooooo sad how much of a stretch this story has become.

Liberals really are desperate.

Figleaf · October 21, 2006

Hiding behind the fact that it wasn't written in the record of Hansard is a weak excuse..

It's not written down, the speaker didn't hear it, the clerks went over the audio record carefully and didn't hear it either.

It is unmistakeably audible on the CPAC vidoetape.

betsy · October 21, 2006

It was a foolish thing to do for McKay....for letting personal feelings to get the better of him.

But I notice that Belinda really turned this around and used it not only to get back at McKay (which should have been understandable)....but also to smear the whole Conservative Party (which is totally unfair).

Suddenly, it is the whole party's fault! She's saying that they have shown their true color!

Why would one man's personal opinion (considering the history between McKay and Stronach) be somehow the reflection on everyone in that party?

Just because some Liberal MPs have dabbled in corruption....should we then conclude that the whole Liberal party is showing its true colors? That all Liberal MPs are crooks...or corrupt?

Ricki Bobbi · October 21, 2006

It is unmistakeably audible on the CPAC vidoetape.

"You already have her." is the only thing that is audible on the tape.

Wilber · October 21, 2006

Personally I think it is a pretty good line. It won't sound strange to anyone familiar with the shots Churchill and Lady Astor used to exchange across the floor and in the press. Too bad Belinda doesn't have the same kind of bottom as Astor. She might be taken seriously as a potential leader if she did.

Can you imagine Margaret Thatcher whining about being put down as a woman? Whether you agreed with her politics or not she was the most successful women politician and effective leaders in memory. Why, because she knew she was a better man than any of them. Belinda? I don't think so.

Figleaf · October 21, 2006

... Belinda really turned this around and used it not only to get back at McKay (which should have been understandable)....but also to smear the whole Conservative Party (which is totally unfair).

:lol:

Gee, that would be like smearing

a whole party based on something one prominent member said. Where have you heard that before?

Figleaf · October 21, 2006

It is unmistakeably audible on the CPAC vidoetape.

"You already have her." is the only thing that is audible on the tape.

McGuinty's comment is quite audible too.

betsy · October 21, 2006

... Belinda really turned this around and used it not only to get back at McKay (which should have been understandable)....but also to smear the whole Conservative Party (which is totally unfair).

Gee, that would be like smearing

a whole party based on something one prominent member said. Where have you heard that before?

Refresh my memory please. Who?

Figleaf · October 21, 2006

Gee, that would be like smearing

a whole party based on something one prominent member said. Where have you heard that before?

Refresh my memory please. Who?

You can't guess?

gerryhatrick · October 21, 2006

A man who cannot handle the end of a relationship without this kind of nastiness is not fit for office.
That is a silly thing to say. It is no better than saying a man who does not hounour his marriage vows (i.e. cheats) is not fit for office.

I think slandering a woman in public months after splitting with her is far worse than cheating. Doing it at all is despicable.

At least in the case of cheating there was understandable motivation. Doing what he did was just being a nasty, spiteful pos.

Ricki Bobbi · October 21, 2006

At least in the case of cheating there was understandable motivation. Doing what he did was just being a nasty, spiteful pos.

"You already have her." Is being nasty and spiteful?

Wow. Very, very interesting double-standard there.

betsy · October 21, 2006

Gee, that would be like smearing

a whole party based on something one prominent member said. Where have you heard that before?

Refresh my memory please. Who?

You can't guess?

No. I can't think of anyone...either from the NDP or Conservatives.

So whom are you refrring to? And what incident?

Or is this just another cheap blind swipe? :lol:

margrace · October 21, 2006

Personally I think it is a pretty good line. It won't sound strange to anyone familiar with the shots Churchill and Lady Astor used to exchange across the floor and in the press. Too bad Belinda doesn't have the same kind of bottom as Astor. She might be taken seriously as a potential leader if she did.
Can you imagine Margaret Thatcher whining about being put down as a woman? Whether you agreed with her politics or not she was the most successful women politician and effective leaders in memory. Why, because she knew she was a better man than any of them. Belinda? I don't think so.

There are a lot of people in Great Britian who might not agree with you. She too was a war monger.

Jerry J. Fortin · October 21, 2006

Hard to believe that the voting public could give a damn about this particular incident. I think that people can see through this little ploy, or at least I hope they can. Much ado about nothing I'm afraid. We have bigger fish to fry.