JerrySeinfeld Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 No doubt this report will be followed up by the usual multiculti muzzak, accompanied by official statements o "no jihad to see here".... A 30-year-old man was in police custody and under observation at Ulleval University Hospital Monday after he’s believed to have shot and killed all three of his sisters at the family’s home in Oslo Sunday night. The three sisters, aged 13, 24 and 27, lived in the flat in Oslo’s Kalbakken district with their three brothers, their wives and children. The 30-year-old brother was the oldest, and police said he functioned as head of the household when the retired patriarch of the family was on one of his trips to Pakistan, as he was this week. Police said they received a call Sunday night from one of the younger brothers in the home, and he reported “the shooting of a woman.” When police arrived they found all three sisters dead. The eldest brother had fled but was captured within a half-hour and and reportedly told police “it’s probably me you’re looking for,” before he passed out. He was rushed to the Oslo emergency clinic (Legevakt) and later to Ulleval hospital. Police said they still hadn’t been able to question him, because his condition was too unstable. Police said they therefore had no motive for the murders. Neighbours also described the shootings as baffling, describing the family as “very nice” and “completely normal,” noting that they often invited neighbours in for Pakistani food. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Posting individual cases are at best anecdotal evidence, and at worst dishonest. We could also post the isolated acts of Jewish extremists (including the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin) and what would it prove ? Nothing. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
myata Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 obsessive cyclical thinking ... yawn Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
sharkman Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 No doubt this report will be followed up by the usual multiculti muzzak, accompanied by official statements o "no jihad to see here"....A 30-year-old man was in police custody and under observation at Ulleval University Hospital Monday after he’s believed to have shot and killed all three of his sisters at the family’s home in Oslo Sunday night. The three sisters, aged 13, 24 and 27, lived in the flat in Oslo’s Kalbakken district with their three brothers, their wives and children. The 30-year-old brother was the oldest, and police said he functioned as head of the household when the retired patriarch of the family was on one of his trips to Pakistan, as he was this week. Police said they received a call Sunday night from one of the younger brothers in the home, and he reported “the shooting of a woman.” When police arrived they found all three sisters dead. The eldest brother had fled but was captured within a half-hour and and reportedly told police “it’s probably me you’re looking for,” before he passed out. He was rushed to the Oslo emergency clinic (Legevakt) and later to Ulleval hospital. Police said they still hadn’t been able to question him, because his condition was too unstable. Police said they therefore had no motive for the murders. Neighbours also described the shootings as baffling, describing the family as “very nice” and “completely normal,” noting that they often invited neighbours in for Pakistani food. Too early to tell what this is yet, but when you ignore islolated act after isolated act you are unable to conncet the dots. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Too early to tell what this is yet, but when you ignore islolated act after isolated act you are unable to conncet the dots. Connecting the dots is done by analysis - by looking at the data, coming up with a hypothesis, and testing it. It's not done by posting news articles of individual crimes and implicating millions of people with the same race, or religion. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Borg Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Posting individual cases are at best anecdotal evidence, and at worst dishonest. We could also post the isolated acts of Jewish extremists (including the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin) and what would it prove ? Nothing. Somewhat true - however it is simply an example of what is a rather common ocurrence. Happens reguarly - just not noticed often. Borg Quote
sharkman Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Too early to tell what this is yet, but when you ignore islolated act after isolated act you are unable to conncet the dots. Connecting the dots is done by analysis - by looking at the data, coming up with a hypothesis, and testing it. It's not done by posting news articles of individual crimes and implicating millions of people with the same race, or religion. What do you suppose our governments are doing? When muslim extremists keep killing 'infidels' time and time again, and then attack Catholics because of something the Pope said in passing, and violently protest any cartoon that they don't like, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on. At this point it's not connecting the dots anymore, it's a 'masterpiece' painted with the blood of innocent lives. Even if you don't want to look at it because the implications are too awful, it's still there, being shoved in our faces every time another 'infidel' gets murdered. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Posted October 2, 2006 Too early to tell what this is yet, but when you ignore islolated act after isolated act you are unable to conncet the dots. Connecting the dots is done by analysis - by looking at the data, coming up with a hypothesis, and testing it. It's not done by posting news articles of individual crimes and implicating millions of people with the same race, or religion. Ah yes - most muslims are moderates. "No jihad to see here". It's hypnotic. Keep saying it - soon maybe even you will believe it. Meantime I'll keep posting factual news stories from around the globe. Quote
Liam Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Don't get your knickers in a twist. There's nothing in the article which says it was an honour killing. We don't know. Honour killings are despicable, but who knows if this was one (three?) of them or if it was a domestic dispute or if the guy wasn't just off his rocker. I'll withhold judgment insofar as the motive is concerned but condemn the acts as shameful regardless. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 No doubt this report will be followed up by the usual multiculti muzzak, accompanied by official statements o "no jihad to see here"....A 30-year-old man was in police custody and under observation at Ulleval University Hospital Monday after he’s believed to have shot and killed all three of his sisters at the family’s home in Oslo Sunday night. The three sisters, aged 13, 24 and 27, lived in the flat in Oslo’s Kalbakken district with their three brothers, their wives and children. The 30-year-old brother was the oldest, and police said he functioned as head of the household when the retired patriarch of the family was on one of his trips to Pakistan, as he was this week. Police said they received a call Sunday night from one of the younger brothers in the home, and he reported “the shooting of a woman.” When police arrived they found all three sisters dead. The eldest brother had fled but was captured within a half-hour and and reportedly told police “it’s probably me you’re looking for,” before he passed out. He was rushed to the Oslo emergency clinic (Legevakt) and later to Ulleval hospital. Police said they still hadn’t been able to question him, because his condition was too unstable. Police said they therefore had no motive for the murders. Neighbours also described the shootings as baffling, describing the family as “very nice” and “completely normal,” noting that they often invited neighbours in for Pakistani food. Thank God no one has ever killed there family in Canada....ever...not even...recently Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
JerrySeinfeld Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Posted October 2, 2006 No doubt this report will be followed up by the usual multiculti muzzak, accompanied by official statements o "no jihad to see here".... A 30-year-old man was in police custody and under observation at Ulleval University Hospital Monday after he’s believed to have shot and killed all three of his sisters at the family’s home in Oslo Sunday night. The three sisters, aged 13, 24 and 27, lived in the flat in Oslo’s Kalbakken district with their three brothers, their wives and children. The 30-year-old brother was the oldest, and police said he functioned as head of the household when the retired patriarch of the family was on one of his trips to Pakistan, as he was this week. Police said they received a call Sunday night from one of the younger brothers in the home, and he reported “the shooting of a woman.” When police arrived they found all three sisters dead. The eldest brother had fled but was captured within a half-hour and and reportedly told police “it’s probably me you’re looking for,” before he passed out. He was rushed to the Oslo emergency clinic (Legevakt) and later to Ulleval hospital. Police said they still hadn’t been able to question him, because his condition was too unstable. Police said they therefore had no motive for the murders. Neighbours also described the shootings as baffling, describing the family as “very nice” and “completely normal,” noting that they often invited neighbours in for Pakistani food. Thank God no one has ever killed there family in Canada....ever...not even...recently More FACTUAL accounts of muslim men killing their women family members in Europe to follow....I look forward to your spin. Quote
M.Dancer Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Why limit your mock outrage to muslims? Surely you don't have to travel all the way to Sweden to find patricidal, matricidal, fratricidal murderers.....or do you place one demographics murder as more abhorent than anothers? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
JerrySeinfeld Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Posted October 2, 2006 Why limit your mock outrage to muslims? Surely you don't have to travel all the way to Sweden to find patricidal, matricidal, fratricidal murderers.....or do you place one demographics murder as more abhorent than anothers? Yes I'm sure you're right. The world isn't being overrun with stories about angry Muslim men committing violence against others. I suppose you're gonna throw a "Marc Lepine" article at me? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Borg, Shark, Jerry, I honestly think that these things are an overreaction and I think that Muslims will assimilate over time. If someone has something other than anecdotal evidence to the contrary, then I'd be glad to look at it. As it was, we had somebody posting that 90% (or somesuch) of third generation Turkish immigrants returned home to get a wife - this from a reputable source - only to find that the study they sourced was misquoted. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 The world isn't being overrun with stories about angry Muslim men committing violence against others. Jerry - I don't doubt that the world is overrun with 'stories'. In fact, you've posted too many stories here yourself. But it's not 'stories' that are the problem... Or maybe they are... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Riverwind Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Thank God no one has ever killed there family in Canada....ever...not even...recentlyHappens all of the time - I can think of _at least_ three cases in BC in the last 10 years. Only one of the them involved a visible miniority/immigrant and in that case it was East Indian/Hindu - not Mulsim. Don't have links at the momment - will post if I can recall enough detail... Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
M.Dancer Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Why limit your mock outrage to muslims? Surely you don't have to travel all the way to Sweden to find patricidal, matricidal, fratricidal murderers.....or do you place one demographics murder as more abhorent than anothers? Yes I'm sure you're right. The world isn't being overrun with stories about angry Muslim men committing violence against others. I suppose you're gonna throw a "Marc Lepine" article at me? Why would I go back so far? I'm sure in the last week, a few men have killed their wives in the US..... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
sharkman Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Borg, Shark, Jerry,I honestly think that these things are an overreaction and I think that Muslims will assimilate over time. If someone has something other than anecdotal evidence to the contrary, then I'd be glad to look at it. As it was, we had somebody posting that 90% (or somesuch) of third generation Turkish immigrants returned home to get a wife - this from a reputable source - only to find that the study they sourced was misquoted. Well don't look now, but Muslims have been unassimilating over the last decade. If you want to call the cartoon riots and the Pope riots anecdotal evidence,(As I referenced above) then I'll leave you to your rose coloured view. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Well don't look now, but Muslims have been unassimilating over the last decade. If you want to call the cartoon riots and the Pope riots anecdotal evidence,(As I referenced above) then I'll leave you to your rose coloured view. Yes, and the young woman (daughter of two devout Muslims) who flirted with me over drinks at a bar last week. I'll leave her to your mud coloured view, though it's much more fun to visualize my scenario... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Riverwind Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Well don't look now, but Muslims have been unassimilating over the last decade. If you want to call the cartoon riots and the Pope riots anecdotal evidence,(As I referenced above) then I'll leave you to your rose coloured view.How many Cartoon riots occurred in Canada and the US? Assimilation is a two way street - people can only assimilate if the dominate culture allows them to assimilate. Most European societies do not accept even 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants as equal to 'pure lain'. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
sharkman Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 Well don't look now, but Muslims have been unassimilating over the last decade. If you want to call the cartoon riots and the Pope riots anecdotal evidence,(As I referenced above) then I'll leave you to your rose coloured view.How many Cartoon riots occurred in Canada and the US? Assimilation is a two way street - people can only assimilate if the dominate culture allows them to assimilate. Most European societies do not accept even 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants as equal to 'pure lain'. To fly a plane, you need a pilot. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Posted October 2, 2006 Well don't look now, but Muslims have been unassimilating over the last decade. If you want to call the cartoon riots and the Pope riots anecdotal evidence,(As I referenced above) then I'll leave you to your rose coloured view.How many Cartoon riots occurred in Canada and the US? Assimilation is a two way street - people can only assimilate if the dominate culture allows them to assimilate. Most European societies do not accept even 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants as equal to 'pure lain'. There were cartoon protests in Toronto. And to quote one young lady in the protests in T.O.: "We will not stop until the world obeys Islamic Law" Pretty much sums up the whole situation in a nutshell I'd say. Quote
Remiel Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 That's the whole point, Jerry. Your tunnel-vision and gazillion repetative threads prevent anyone from givings a rats ass what you say. Quote
Riverwind Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 There were cartoon protests in Toronto. And to quote one young lady in the protests in T.O.:Last time I checked the anyone is free to non-violently protest anything they want in this country. "We will not stop until the world obeys Islamic Law"No worse than the anti-muslim rants i have seen on this board. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Argus Posted October 3, 2006 Report Posted October 3, 2006 Thank God no one has ever killed there family in Canada....ever...not even...recentlyHappens all of the time - I can think of _at least_ three cases in BC in the last 10 years. Only one of the them involved a visible miniority/immigrant and in that case it was East Indian/Hindu - not Mulsim. Don't have links at the momment - will post if I can recall enough detail... There was an honour killing in Ottawa last week. An Afghani man murdered his sister and her fiance because the sister had moved in with the boyfriend and his family. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
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