Canadian Political Polls

[BC_chick]

Now with the Ontario media on side with Harper's stand in the Atlantic Accord dispute, and the fact this issue involves money coming out of Ontario's pocket, I can't see Ontario siding with the Maritimes anytime in the future.

People just don't get it, it's the flip-flop not the end result - just like taxing income-trusts. If his deal is so fair and just, he should have put it out there from the start. That's the part that's making him look like an opportunist. Making false promises to gain support is always going to cost you in the long-run.

Maybe a party gets rusty about political saviness after 13 years, who knows.

[Fortunata]

Leave the Conservatives and allow them a shot at a majority government?

Now that's an option I like!!!

Making false promises to gain support is always going to cost you in the long-run.

Or overdoing promises that are obviously geared to vote buying. If a government breaks the bank for one region to gain votes, other regions, that perhaps would have voted for them, will now vote for someone else. So you gain one but lose another that got you where you were to start with.

[jdobbin]

Rural Saskatchewan isn't exactly the dominion of people like Dion. If they had picked a competent leader, you'd have a good shot at a majority come this fall.

With Iggy for example, I can guarntee gains in Alberta and the rest of the West.

Unfortunately, the Liberals do need to defer to the occasional Francophone to fend off the Quebecois.

I think Ignatieff would have come with his own set of negatives. He is a better performer in Parliament though.

We'll see what happens. I don't know that it would be the Liberals making gains in Saskatchewan as it might be the NDP but then I don't know what the break down is riding by riding.

[jdobbin]

It is indeed a statistical tie but indicates that the trend established in the past few months continues, i.e., the decline in Conservative support.

The three week rolling poll has the big parties at 31% each, basically a tie.

The Tories are still very strong in the west but in critical Ontario and Quebec they are down quite a lot. There seems to be a base of support in the Maritimes where support will not fall below which seems to be about 30-35%. Still, it is a long way down from the election results.

[jdobbin]

Most people in the poll probably didn't know enough about the Atlantic Accord when polled and as usual sided with the "small guy".

Now with the Ontario media on side with Harper's stand in the Atlantic Accord dispute, and the fact this issue involves money coming out of Ontario's pocket, I can't see Ontario siding with the Maritimes anytime in the future.

Who's going to support a party that wants to take more than their fair share from one province in order to make another province richer than them.

Even Flaherty had to back down yesterday and say that a province like Nova Scotia can't know what thing will be better for them: the Atlantic Accord or Harper's equalization deal. Pick the wrong one and lose out for your province.

[normanchateau]

Does anybody doubt that Martin would have bent over and given the Maritimes even more money in this situation?

Does anybody doubt that Harper would have bent over and given Quebec even more money in this situation?

Here's how one British Columbia columnist views Harper's billions to Quebec at the expense of other provinces:

http://billtieleman.blogspot.com/2007/03/b...ote-buying.html

Now that Harper is considering apologizing to every immigrant ethnic group with some perceived greivance, and now that he has declared the Quebecois a nation, when will he apologize and grovel to the Quebecois for their historical grievances?

[Michael Bluth]

Or overdoing promises that are obviously geared to vote buying. If a government breaks the bank for one region to gain votes, other regions, that perhaps would have voted for them, will now vote for someone else. So you gain one but lose another that got you where you were to start with.

Neither a false promise nor overdoing a promise.

Martin broke the bank to pander to the Maritimes.

Harper corrected it.

Such is life.

With Central Canada onside this has become a non-issue very quickly.

[normanchateau]

Martin broke the bank to pander to the Maritimes.

And Stephen Harper would never break the bank to pander to Quebec...

[Fortunata]

Neither a false promise nor overdoing a promise.

Martin broke the bank to pander to the Maritimes.

Harper corrected it.

Such is life.

With Central Canada onside this has become a non-issue very quickly.

One is no better than the other.

[daniel]

...Maybe a party gets rusty about political saviness after 13 years, who knows.

That's what Harper has accomplished in 13 months

(that's months not 13 years)

[gc1765]

A very un-scientific poll from the globe and mail: Link

[Michael Bluth]

A very un-scientific poll from the globe and mail: Link

Fair enough.

But with words like "potential" you have to wonder why the Yes wasn't higher.

[normanchateau]

...Maybe a party gets rusty about political saviness after 13 years, who knows.

That's what Harper has accomplished in 13 months

(that's months not 13 years)

There were other accomplishments which preceded that. On July 1, 2006, Harper raised our personal income tax rate. That was after barely 13 weeks in office.

[ScottSA]

It's hilarious watching all the pro-Liberal grasping at straws going on here. The Liberals will drop ten points the first time Dion shows his face during an election campaign.

[normanchateau]

It's hilarious watching all the pro-Liberal grasping at straws going on here. The Liberals will drop ten points the first time Dion shows his face during an election campaign.

If the separatist Bloc had failed to prop up the Harper Conservatives on the budget vote, we'd be able to test your hypothesis.

[scribblet]

It's hilarious watching all the pro-Liberal grasping at straws going on here. The Liberals will drop ten points the first time Dion shows his face during an election campaign.

I think your right,

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/TopStorie...pularity_070613

Majority of Canadians do not want Dion as PM: poll

13/06/2007 5:05:35 PM

A majority of Canadians do not want to see Liberal Leader Stephane Dion become prime minister, finds a new national public opinion poll.

Majority of Canadians do not want Dion as PM: poll

The poll, conducted by The Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail, finds that Dion is not connecting with Canadians, especially in his home province of Quebec.

Overall, only 20 per cent of those polled wanted Dion, who was elected to lead the Liberals just six months ago, to become prime minister.

Fifty-two per cent polled said they didn't want him in the country's top job. Twenty-eight per cent had no opinion.

[normanchateau]

It's hilarious watching all the pro-Liberal grasping at straws going on here. The Liberals will drop ten points the first time Dion shows his face during an election campaign.

If so, Harper should call an election now.

[jbg]

There were other accomplishments which preceded that. On July 1, 2006, Harper raised our personal income tax rate. That was after barely 13 weeks in office.

If it was such a bad move why didn't the Liberals have the guts to take the government down over it? Or over any issue to date?

[jbg]

It's hilarious watching all the pro-Liberal grasping at straws going on here. The Liberals will drop ten points the first time Dion shows his face during an election campaign.

If so, Harper should call an election now.

He definitely cannot under the new "fixed election date" law. It was doubtful that he could before, under the King/Byng affair precedent. The Liberals + the Bloc can create an election any time they want. Why don't they?

[Michael Bluth]

He definitely cannot under the new "fixed election date" law. It was doubtful that he could before, under the King/Byng affair precedent. The Liberals + the Bloc can create an election any time they want. Why don't they?

King/Byng doesn't real come into play.

The Liberals and the Bloc probably won't force an election.

[hiti]

He definitely cannot under the new "fixed election date" law. It was doubtful that he could before, under the King/Byng affair precedent. The Liberals + the Bloc can create an election any time they want. Why don't they?

King/Byng doesn't real come into play.

The Liberals and the Bloc probably won't force an election.

Why force an election when the opposition can sit back and watch Steve implode.

[jdobbin]

It's hilarious watching all the pro-Liberal grasping at straws going on here. The Liberals will drop ten points the first time Dion shows his face during an election campaign.

I see women voters dropping Harper like a bad date as soon as the election starts.

[jdobbin]

Fifty-two per cent polled said they didn't want him in the country's top job. Twenty-eight per cent had no opinion.

Pretty much the results Harper had when people asked if he would make a good prime minister prior to the election.

[jdobbin]

If it was such a bad move why didn't the Liberals have the guts to take the government down over it? Or over any issue to date?

The Liberals and the NDP voted against the budget. The mutual support system the BQ and the Tories have set up for themselves voted for the budget.

[jdobbin]

Why force an election when the opposition can sit back and watch Steve implode.

Like they are over the detainee issue.... again.