Leafless Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 I wonder how the U.S. will respond if France ever comes knocking on their door for any type of military assistance? http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...bdf&k=26409 Quote
M.Dancer Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Well lets see.....France has 1900 troops in Afghansitan .....36,000 deployed overseas.....7,600 aiding US DEA in the war on drugs in the caribbean.......Task Force 150.....significant emergency relief for Hurricane Katrina including planes, medical assistance and demolitions experts.......not to mention 25,000 French Soldiers for the 1st gulf war....... My guess is the US leadership would offer both hands....mind you, the mouth breathing classes would first need learn where France is...... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Leafless Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Posted September 15, 2006 I'am basically talking about that all important mission when France snubbed the U.S. when asked to participate in the Iraq conflict. Got to give you credit for your diverting tactics. France is a lot closer to source terrorist countries than the U.S. who nevertheless got hit hard. Maybe I can give you mouth breathing classes concerning the capabilities of nukes. Quote
M.Dancer Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 My mistake, I thought you might be refering to terrorism, and not some waste of time, effort and lives like Iraq. In hindsight, all those countries who said "Hold on....where the proof?" .....pretty smart of them, each and everyone. Maybe I can give you mouth breathing classes concerning the capabilities of nukes I'm sure you could teach mouth breathing .......teach the capabilities of nukes though? Doubt it Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Leafless Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Posted September 15, 2006 My mistake, I thought you might be refering to terrorism, and not some waste of time, effort and lives like Iraq.In hindsight, all those countries who said "Hold on....where the proof?" .....pretty smart of them, each and everyone. Maybe I can give you mouth breathing classes concerning the capabilities of nukes I'm sure you could teach mouth breathing .......teach the capabilities of nukes though? Doubt it You are an ungrateful individual living off the protection of the U.S. with Canadians being like sheltered little children in day care while the U.S. and it's allies continue to do the dirty work in Iraq. Saddam was told to leave the country prior to the invasion in Iraq and even given the opportunity to surrender which he refused. He would have saved many lives if he had surrendered. "I'm sure you could teach mouth breathing .......teach the capabilities of nukes though? Doubt it" Your reference to asshole condescending comments like the one above indicates you can't even read. The capabilities of nukes are in reference to 'mass destruction' not manufacturing techniques which you tend to imply. http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/FactShee...undBriefing.htm Quote
Wilber Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Saddam was told to leave the country prior to the invasion in Iraq and even given the opportunity to surrender which he refused. He would have saved many lives if he had surrendered. Britain was given the same option in 1940. What's your point? He's a creep but he was head of state of a sovereign nation. If we give the same option to any regime we don't like does that automatically make it OK to invade their country if they don't comply? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Leafless Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Posted September 15, 2006 Wilber Did you not read the previous link. I really have a problem on this site acknowledging by certain members the outright hate towards the U.S. and the lack of support for initiatives important to maintain all aspects concerning Canadian well being. Are you in some kind of morbid denial that Arab countries are preparing or trying to overtake the world in their own primitve way? Has the Charter really replaced: ethics, values, morals, common sense, the right to independently evaluate the political state of Canada? I'll go down any day in the name of the U.S. over any other country in the world even Canada that has totally lost it's political bearings. Quote
jdobbin Posted September 15, 2006 Report Posted September 15, 2006 Maybe I can give you mouth breathing classes concerning the capabilities of nukes. Are you suggesting that there are hidden nuclear weapons in Iraq? Quote
Wilber Posted September 16, 2006 Report Posted September 16, 2006 Are you in some kind of morbid denial that Arab countries are preparing or trying to overtake the world in their own primitve way? I definitely think some are but it has become pretty obvious that Saddam wasn't one of them. His objectives were far more limited. The war was begun on a false premise. I supported it until it became obvious that the reason for starting it was a fairy tale (WMD's), then I felt like I had been had. I don't like being had. I also do not like those who cannot get past their anti Americanism in order to form an objective opinion on anything but that has nothing to do with the fact I now believe the invasion of Iraq was a really bad idea and that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etc, flat out lied. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Black Dog Posted September 16, 2006 Report Posted September 16, 2006 Are you in some kind of morbid denial that Arab countries are preparing or trying to overtake the world in their own primitve way? If that primitive way is scaring the holy bejeezus out of right wingers so that they trash liberal society on their own, well, I can see that being some cause for alarm. But in the sense of actually overunning western nations militarily? Pshaw. That's not denial: that's realism. Name on Arab or Muslim nation that could pose a threat to the west. Quote
Leafless Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Posted September 17, 2006 Are you in some kind of morbid denial that Arab countries are preparing or trying to overtake the world in their own primitve way? If that primitive way is scaring the holy bejeezus out of right wingers so that they trash liberal society on their own, well, I can see that being some cause for alarm. But in the sense of actually overunning western nations militarily? Pshaw. That's not denial: that's realism. Name on Arab or Muslim nation that could pose a threat to the west. Are you ready for the AMERICAN HIROSIMA? http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/ Are you ready for the planned destruction of 20 airliners? http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/kaplan091406.htm I'am totally sick and tired of all of it!!! Quote
jdobbin Posted September 17, 2006 Report Posted September 17, 2006 Are you ready for the AMERICAN HIROSIMA? http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/ Are you ready for the planned destruction of 20 airliners? http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/kaplan091406.htm I'am totally sick and tired of all of it!!! Yout think we are going to face a nuclear attack this year? Quote
GostHacked Posted September 17, 2006 Report Posted September 17, 2006 Are you in some kind of morbid denial that Arab countries are preparing or trying to overtake the world in their own primitve way? If that primitive way is scaring the holy bejeezus out of right wingers so that they trash liberal society on their own, well, I can see that being some cause for alarm. But in the sense of actually overunning western nations militarily? Pshaw. That's not denial: that's realism. Name on Arab or Muslim nation that could pose a threat to the west. Are you ready for the AMERICAN HIROSIMA? http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/ Are you ready for the planned destruction of 20 airliners? http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/kaplan091406.htm I'am totally sick and tired of all of it!!! More fearmongering by the Powers That Be. Plain and simple. I do not feel threatened by "radical islam". I feel threatened by those who invade countries based on total and complete lies. How can you trust anything they say in regards to the War on Terror when they - have not captured/killed Bin Laden. - told us the reasons for invading Iraq were irrelevant since a brutal dictator was removed. - Afghanistan is still in turmoil, and the Taliban are still a considerable threat (5 years later) - Patriot Act, NSA wiretapping, circumventing the constitution and your basic rights If an attack is done in the US, it will be by the powers that be to keep feer instilled in the population to keep the veil of security in place. No fear? No threat? No need to pump millions ,, er BILLIONS into the Military Industrial Complex, and instead spend that money on education and healthcare for EVERY SINGLE PERSON LIVING IN THE U.S. !!! I bet that would cover the illegal immigrants as well. But the money is wiser spent on tanks, bombs and guns to kill people. EDIT : Also nice way if linking the latest E-Coli incident to BIOLOGICAL TERRORISM!! Most likely it was just a bad batch of spinach. That can happen to produce since it is organic, grows in the ground and if not properly handled. OMG be afraid of the food you eat. Makes me sick. Quote
Leafless Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Posted September 17, 2006 Are you in some kind of morbid denial that Arab countries are preparing or trying to overtake the world in their own primitve way? If that primitive way is scaring the holy bejeezus out of right wingers so that they trash liberal society on their own, well, I can see that being some cause for alarm. But in the sense of actually overunning western nations militarily? Pshaw. That's not denial: that's realism. Name on Arab or Muslim nation that could pose a threat to the west. Are you ready for the AMERICAN HIROSIMA? http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/ Are you ready for the planned destruction of 20 airliners? http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/kaplan091406.htm I'am totally sick and tired of all of it!!! More fearmongering by the Powers That Be. Plain and simple. I do not feel threatened by "radical islam". I feel threatened by those who invade countries based on total and complete lies. How can you trust anything they say in regards to the War on Terror when they - have not captured/killed Bin Laden. - told us the reasons for invading Iraq were irrelevant since a brutal dictator was removed. - Afghanistan is still in turmoil, and the Taliban are still a considerable threat (5 years later) - Patriot Act, NSA wiretapping, circumventing the constitution and your basic rights If an attack is done in the US, it will be by the powers that be to keep feer instilled in the population to keep the veil of security in place. EDIT : Also nice way if linking the latest E-Coli incident to BIOLOGICAL TERRORISM!! Most likely it was just a bad batch of spinach. That can happen to produce since it is organic, grows in the ground and if not properly handled. OMG be afraid of the food you eat. Makes me sick. 1.-What does the fact Bin Laden has not been captured/killed relevant? I think Laden not being captured supports a more serious threat. 2.- When you look at the broad perspective there were many reason invading Iraq was relevant based on opinion. You would have to be a foolish person not to come to a positive conclusion why this invasion was necessary albeit none that can be discussed in with absence of absolute proof. 3.- The Taliban are a serious threat as the article predicts and states: " The Taliban will launch a major strike (known as the "Badar offensive") against coalition forces in Afghanistan during the holy month of Ramadan. There are a lot of Muslims in Afghanistan. 4.- The Patriot Act, NSA wiretapping is absolutely necessary in a multicultural free country concerning potential attack with nut cases running around all over. To say " If an attack in the U.S. it will be by the powers to keep the fear instilled in the population to keep the veil of security in place" is sort of protecting the enemy. I suppose you think 9/11 was a fabrication by the CIA? The E-Coli spinach incident affected 20 states, 100 people affected including one death. The reason for the E-Coli spinach link was from an al-Qaeda forum analyst Randy Taylor was pursuing: " The E-Coli spinach incident was linked because Interestingly enough, some time ago I was perusing a well known al Qaeda forum and that exact subject of contaminating foods, specifically mentioning spinach, other foods and water supplies were the subjects of the posted information. I felt it my responsibility to share this with you." Quote
Leafless Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Posted September 17, 2006 Are you ready for the AMERICAN HIROSIMA? http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/ Are you ready for the planned destruction of 20 airliners? http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/kaplan091406.htm I'am totally sick and tired of all of it!!! Yout think we are going to face a nuclear attack this year? There could be an attack EQIVALENT to a nuclear attack. Quote
jdobbin Posted September 17, 2006 Report Posted September 17, 2006 There could be an attack EQIVALENT to a nuclear attack. What do you think should be done to prevent that? Quote
Leafless Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Posted September 17, 2006 There could be an attack EQIVALENT to a nuclear attack. What do you think should be done to prevent that? We could do the what Muslim Islamic countries do and simply keep it in the family. This means we only allow White Christians to reside in the country. Picking out Muslim intruders would be relatively simple. Seriously, Western countries, the U.S. especially are doing as much as practically possible and doing a good job. What would you like them to do up and above what they are already doing in the way of security? Quote
jdobbin Posted September 17, 2006 Report Posted September 17, 2006 We could do the what Muslim Islamic countries do and simply keep it in the family. This means we only allow White Christians to reside in the country. Picking out Muslim intruders would be relatively simple. Seriously, Western countries, the U.S. especially are doing as much as practically possible and doing a good job. What would you like them to do up and above what they are already doing in the way of security? The problem with this thinking is that there are now many Christian and other faith converts to the Muslim faith who are already citizens of Canada. Some of the people who were arrested in Britain and Canada were converts. How do you stop Muslim intruders if they are converts? Should freedom of religion be eliminated from the Constitution? I think security should be adapatable to any threat. If this basic tenet is kept and if government adjusts accordingly to it, we are doing much better than we were prior to September 11. Quote
Leafless Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Posted September 17, 2006 How do you stop Muslim intruders if they are converts? Should freedom of religion be eliminated from the Constitution? If these murdering assaults continue within the confines of a free and democratic country or countries in which freedom and rights are taken advantage of to this extent, then there may be no other option then to reduce or eliminate certain rights and freedoms. And if something like this is implemented it will no doubt bleed down to banning certain immigrants concerning cultures. You could say in effect radical Muslims are presently threatening and destroying freedom not only for all Muslims but for everyone. Could this be the turning point to completely totalitarian governments? Quote
jdobbin Posted September 17, 2006 Report Posted September 17, 2006 Could this be the turning point to completely totalitarian governments? Sounds like a V for Vendetta scenario. Quote
Leafless Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Posted September 17, 2006 Could this be the turning point to completely totalitarian governments? Sounds like a V for Vendetta scenario. Call it what you want. But the fact remains that the Islamic faith is the same for radical Muslims as it is for moderate Muslims. Quote
jbg Posted September 19, 2006 Report Posted September 19, 2006 I wonder how the U.S. will respond if France ever comes knocking on their door for any type of military assistance? http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...bdf&k=26409 Our history is we'd be there, with bells on, unfortunately. The English-speaking world's fate is to straighten out the messes of everyone else. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
M.Dancer Posted September 19, 2006 Report Posted September 19, 2006 My mistake, I thought you might be referring to terrorism, and not some waste of time, effort and lives like Iraq. In hindsight, all those countries who said "Hold on....where the proof?" .....pretty smart of them, each and everyone. Maybe I can give you mouth breathing classes concerning the capabilities of nukes I'm sure you could teach mouth breathing .......teach the capabilities of nukes though? Doubt it You are an ungrateful individual living off the protection of the U.S. with Canadians being like sheltered little children in day care while the U.S. and it's allies continue to do the dirty work in Iraq. I would take you seriously but you are not even trying to come across as intelligent. Iraq as it has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt wasn't a danger to anyone. As far as dirty work is concerned, the US and the UK created this shite, let them clean it up. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Charles Anthony Posted September 19, 2006 Report Posted September 19, 2006 But the fact remains that the Islamic faith is the same for radical Muslims as it is for moderate Muslims.What makes the difference between "radical" and "moderate" Muslims? Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
jbg Posted September 20, 2006 Report Posted September 20, 2006 I would take you seriously but you are not even trying to come across as intelligent. Iraq as it has been shown beyond the shadow of a doubt wasn't a danger to anyone. As far as dirty work is concerned, the US and the UK created this shite, let them clean it up. Why should the West even have to tolerate Hussein-style rhetoric? A replay of the "Mouse That Roared"? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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