jbg Posted September 11, 2006 Author Report Posted September 11, 2006 Give me a break. Unlike others I do not make a habit of this. If you had researched that before you posted it, you would know that. Some days GH's obsession with making something out of nothing and then on that basis proceed to call Harper things much worse than we have GH here, gets to a person. If GH doesn't like it, then maybe he ought to think twice before he does it. While in this country one is afforded free speech rights, one is not guaranteed not to have to deal with the consequences of what comes out when he exercises that right. Well I certainly didn't mean to single you out specifically, I was just pulling quotes from this thread. There are a lot of other posters on this forum who love to bash gerryhatrick. Why is it OK to bash him/her but not OK to bash Harper? Excuse me, sir. I did not bash GH. I gave him the highest praise, which was to refer to him as an "excellent poster". I consider GH to be quite an intellect, and I am privileged to post alongside him. That is why many (though not all) of the threads and posts I referenced were his. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Shakeyhands Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 I have no issue with Gerry, not any more than say Argus or August or BD, not sure why any of you would either. He certainly hasn't posted anything that wasn't true... The forum has an ignore feature. If you don't want to read a particular posters posts, use it. Otherwise stop your whining. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
gc1765 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 Give me a break. Unlike others I do not make a habit of this. If you had researched that before you posted it, you would know that. Some days GH's obsession with making something out of nothing and then on that basis proceed to call Harper things much worse than we have GH here, gets to a person. If GH doesn't like it, then maybe he ought to think twice before he does it. While in this country one is afforded free speech rights, one is not guaranteed not to have to deal with the consequences of what comes out when he exercises that right. Well I certainly didn't mean to single you out specifically, I was just pulling quotes from this thread. There are a lot of other posters on this forum who love to bash gerryhatrick. Why is it OK to bash him/her but not OK to bash Harper? Excuse me, sir. I did not bash GH. I gave him the highest praise, which was to refer to him as an "excellent poster". I consider GH to be quite an intellect, and I am privileged to post alongside him. That is why many (though not all) of the threads and posts I referenced were his. I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding, I was not trying to imply that you were bashing GH. I was quoting Hicksey and Ricki Bobbi's posts because they (and other posters) were bashing GH. I know you did not bash anyone. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
jbg Posted September 11, 2006 Author Report Posted September 11, 2006 Addendum to User's Guide, to keep it inclusive of late-posted anti-Harper content: Ottawa reneges on Liberal pledge to help poor countries cut greenhouse gasesat 16:58 on September 10, 2006, EST. OTTAWA (CP) - The federal Conservatives are cancelling a $1.5 million pledge by the previous Liberal government to help developing countries cut greenhouse emissions under the rules of the Kyoto Protocol. Abandoning the pledge made at a United Nations conference in Montreal last December is another blow to the teetering climate treaty which the Conservative government still claims to support. http://www.cjob.com/news/index.aspx?dir=na...=./n091027A.xml Well of course Harper doesn't consider greenhouse gases to be "pollution", so why would he waste money on that? Has anyone every actually asked him if he believes Global Warming is happening? I know nobody can ask him any questions anymore....but maybe before he was elected there's something on record?? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Ricki Bobbi Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 Fairness and justice would be report the post to the moderator, and let him decide what to do about it. Aside from that, ignore the post. There have been dozens of examples of Gerry's ignorance on this board. Why wouldn't you just admit that Gerry's behaviour is indefensible? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
gc1765 Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 Fairness and justice would be report the post to the moderator, and let him decide what to do about it. Aside from that, ignore the post. There have been dozens of examples of Gerry's ignorance on this board. Why wouldn't you just admit that Gerry's behaviour is indefensible? I'm not defending him (or her). Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Shakeyhands Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 Fairness and justice would be report the post to the moderator, and let him decide what to do about it. Aside from that, ignore the post. There have been dozens of examples of Gerry's ignorance on this board. Why wouldn't you just admit that Gerry's behaviour is indefensible? Frankly, your blithering complaints are more annoying than just about anything I've seen on this board, time to let it go RB. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Hicksey Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 Fairness and justice would be report the post to the moderator, and let him decide what to do about it. Aside from that, ignore the post. There have been dozens of examples of Gerry's ignorance on this board. Why wouldn't you just admit that Gerry's behaviour is indefensible? Frankly, your blithering complaints are more annoying than just about anything I've seen on this board, time to let it go RB. You must agree with him more often than not because I cannot imagine another reason to support him. I can acknowledge when a poster consistently makes good points and coherent arguments. I disagree with them but I can respect their opinion and see how they can believe what they do. I do not see anything but spam and hate from GH. IMO its good to flush out trolls like GH (I don't like the extreme right either) because he adds nothing but hate and innuendo to the debate. Even though I disagree with posters like Black Dog I have respect for him because though he can be arrogant at times, he is intelligent and can argue a point well. He may use sarcasm, but he never resorts to making something out of nothing and never spews the hateful vitriole GH does. If GH doesn't like being called a troll it would be prudent to stop acting like one. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
Figleaf Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) If you want to have a good forum, does it make sense to ban good posters for minor imagined infractions? Edited July 22, 2007 by Figleaf Quote
Hicksey Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 I have never met Stephen Harper, but I have met many of his Alliance/Conservative supporters in online discussions.Accordingly, I am torn between hoping that Harper is the greatest among them or hoping that he is the least among them. Make no mistake, Harper is solidly conservative. But he is also smart enough to know that applying his brand of conservatism in a country that stands center-left would get his ass booted from Sussex Dr in a heartbeat. The trick for Harper is to balance what he thinks is right with what he can achieve in parliament without alienating the centrists of the country. Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
M.Dancer Posted September 11, 2006 Report Posted September 11, 2006 He can also fire up a room better than a cash bar at a NDP convention.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
jbg Posted September 12, 2006 Author Report Posted September 12, 2006 I have never met Stephen Harper, but I have met many of his Alliance/Conservative supporters in online discussions. Accordingly, I am torn between hoping that Harper is the greatest among them or hoping that he is the least among them. Make no mistake, Harper is solidly conservative. But he is also smart enough to know that applying his brand of conservatism in a country that stands center-left would get his ass booted from Sussex Dr in a heartbeat. The trick for Harper is to balance what he thinks is right with what he can achieve in parliament without alienating the centrists of the country. Reagan, to his everlasting credit, managed this trick quite well. I see a lot of Reagan in the Harper playbook. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted October 24, 2006 Author Report Posted October 24, 2006 For more anti-Harper fodder, go here. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jefferiah Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 I think Harper is doing a pretty good job personally. I dont think the media represents the people either. What percentage of the population controls the media? Canadian media is pretty Liberal I would say. Pfffft....Also I dont think Canada has to worry about not being left enough, even with a Tory in power. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
jefferiah Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 if Harper were able to dissolve the CRTC i'd support him even more. anyways, i dont agree with conservatives on everything, but i really dont like liberal policy. i especially dont like ken dryden's daycare program. we have enough social programs already. lets focus on improving medicare. is art mandatory in high school now? whats that about? that government which governs least is best you know. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
Canadian Blue Posted October 24, 2006 Report Posted October 24, 2006 I have never met Stephen Harper, but I have met many of his Alliance/Conservative supporters in online discussions. I have met Alliance supporters alot since I was on the board of directors for the Canadian Alliance, and a member of the Alberta Alliance. I can say that they usually come from all walks of life, and are really no different then anybody else. Don't believe that all Conservatives are of the same clothe as people on online discussions. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
jbg Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Posted May 10, 2007 I have updated this User's Guide on another obsessive anti-Harper thread (link). Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Posted October 23, 2007 I guess the anti-Harperites are afraid to vote him down (link). A lot like the mice that are correctly afraid to bell the cat. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Visionseeker Posted October 23, 2007 Report Posted October 23, 2007 What an absolutely nonsensical thread. In the interests of balance, shall we create one to document the juvenile anti-Dion or anti-Layton commentary? Quote
Michael Bluth Posted October 23, 2007 Report Posted October 23, 2007 What an absolutely nonsensical thread. In the interests of balance, shall we create one to document the juvenile anti-Dion or anti-Layton commentary? Please do. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
Shakeyhands Posted October 23, 2007 Report Posted October 23, 2007 Bluth.. revisiting the scene of the crime? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
jbg Posted October 23, 2007 Author Report Posted October 23, 2007 What an absolutely nonsensical thread. In the interests of balance, shall we create one to document the juvenile anti-Dion or anti-Layton commentary?There are actually very few threads, certainly of any length, meeting that description. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
sharkman Posted October 23, 2007 Report Posted October 23, 2007 I guess the anti-Harperites are afraid to vote him down. A lot like the mice that are correctly afraid to bell the cat. Yes, they hate him enough to attack his appearance/weight, but when it matters they have to face up to the reality that he has the support of most Canadians, so they can't vote him down. But Harper is patient and sooner or later the Liberals will do something they'll regret in the morning. Quote
guyser Posted October 23, 2007 Report Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) I guess the anti-Harperites are afraid to vote him down . A lot like the mice that are correctly afraid to bell the cat. What do you expect? Never go into a fight unless you have a chance of winning. Why bother otherwise. Libs know they would be roundly defeated, perhaps even a death knell. One defends ones honour (<-spelling jbg) against a known bigger opponent, but not political fights.Too much to lose and make no mistake.............. Like no one made fun of Chretiens facial tic.... Edited October 23, 2007 by guyser Quote
sharkman Posted October 24, 2007 Report Posted October 24, 2007 I believe honor is spelled this way in the U.S. We're not going to spell check each other now, are we? Quote
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