Historic presidency perspectives?

[KrustyKidd]

What utter crapola! Why on Earth might anyone have launched a nuclear weapon by now? Against who???

Crap? You made the garbage poll, not me. Trueman used it soon as it was available and Kennedy nearly got us all killed by having it on red alert. So, you are going to tell us that if any other president lived those few hours on 911 and nobody had a clue of how large the attack was, they never would have considered using nukes? Or, in the aftermath with public outcrys for action not have used one or two to take out either Saudi Al Queda nests or Afganistan?

Not Regan, not Trueman, not Kennedy? And of course, you have all of these guys rated equally even though only one had to sit through a direct attack on his country too right? What would they have done to Japan after Pearl had they had a nuke? Keep it in a box?

[America1]

My favourite story of Bush Jr in university is when he wrote a paper on when his sister died and said "there was a lacerate in my eye."

He had looked up "tear" in the thesaurus.

Where did you get this "story" from?

[America1]

Just wondering, what university did you go to? Dubya went somewhere pretty high up there in the stratosphere and did fairly well. All this nonsense about him being a simpleton is propaganda by bitter lefties and nothing else

C is not "fairly well". It's pretty much the definition of average.

I guess the MBA from Harvard means he's “average” as well?

BTW, what is your educational pedigree? I wonder if it can even come close to comparing with Pres Bushes.

[Black Dog]

I guess the MBA from Harvard means he's “average” as well?

I don't know what his grades were. But hey, maybe Bush was a fine student, which make sme wonder what happened to him since. Maybe the booze pickled his brain?

BTW, what is your educational pedigree? I wonder if it can even come close to comparing with Pres Bushes.

Probably not, but then I'm not the scion of a prominent and wealthy family of East Coast elites. if I was, I'd probably have the best education money could buy as well.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Bush and Reagan were similar in two respects:

1. The problems they faced in their Presidencies were largely caused by lack of action by their predececors.

2. History is certainly kinder to them than the present - a la Mulroney.

[America1]

I guess the MBA from Harvard means he's “average” as well?

I don't know what his grades were. But hey, maybe Bush was a fine student, which make sme wonder what happened to him since. Maybe the booze pickled his brain?

BTW, what is your educational pedigree? I wonder if it can even come close to comparing with Pres Bush's.

Probably not, but then I'm not the scion of a prominent and wealthy family of East Coast elites. if I was, I'd probably have the best education money could buy as well.

So you admit, you're trying to pass judgement on a person who clearly has a stronger "resume" then you do.

BTW, Yale and Harvard have many schoolorships and finacial aid is given to the finacially less fortunate (but qualified) to attend. So, it’s not only the super-wealthy that attend these universities as you are trying to make it out to be.

[Big Blue Machine]

Whats wrong with Gerald Ford?

[Black Dog]

So you admit, you're trying to pass judgement on a person who clearly has a stronger "resume" then you do.

Stronger? More colourful for sure. I can't think of many others who can put "draft dodger", "Failed businessman" and "appointed President" on the same page.

BTW, Yale and Harvard have many schoolorships and finacial aid is given to the finacially less fortunate (but qualified) to attend. So, it’s not only the super-wealthy that attend these universities as you are trying to make it out to be.

I never said one had to be super wealthy to go to the Ivy League. I'm saying Bush got in because he was wealthy: white affirmative action.

[America1]

So you admit, you're trying to pass judgement on a person who clearly has a stronger "resume" then you do.

Stronger? More colourful for sure. I can't think of many others who can put "draft dodger", "Failed businessman" and "appointed President" on the same page.

BTW, Yale and Harvard have many schoolorships and finacial aid is given to the finacially less fortunate (but qualified) to attend. So, it’s not only the super-wealthy that attend these universities as you are trying to make it out to be.

I never said one had to be super wealthy to go to the Ivy League. I'm saying Bush got in because he was wealthy: white affirmative action.

-"draft dodger" – he was proven to have fulfill his national guard duty. Do you not consider that service? I think it was a touch better than say,,, Clinton.

-"appointed President"- hahahahaha only you and the Looney left still believe this crap. The election was "rigged". If the Dems could have argued even the slightest point they would still be in court today but,,,, they couldn't that's why Gore and Kerry both conceded the election victory to GWB.

How do you know "Bush got in Yale and Harvard b/c he was wealthy"? Do you have any idea what his SAT’s or GPA was in High school? If so please provide a link. If not, admit you are full of Sh*t.

[Black Dog]

-"draft dodger" – he was proven to have fulfill his national guard duty. Do you not consider that service? I think it was a touch better than say,,, Clinton.

Assuming he did fulfill all his ANG service, how is joining the NG to avoid going to Vietnam any different from getting a college deferment?

-"appointed President"- hahahahaha only you and the Looney left still believe this crap. The election was "rigged". If the Dems could have argued even the slightest point they would still be in court today but,,,, they couldn't that's why Gore and Kerry both conceded the election victory to GWB.

Another person who knows bugger all about Bush v. Gore.

How do you know "Bush got in Yale and Harvard b/c he was wealthy"?

Because that's how these things work. Ever heard of "legacy admissions"?

[America1]

-"draft dodger" – he was proven to have fulfill his national guard duty. Do you not consider that service? I think it was a touch better than say,,, Clinton.

Assuming he did fulfill all his ANG service, how is joining the NG to avoid going to Vietnam any different from getting a college deferment?

-"appointed President"- hahahahaha only you and the Looney left still believe this crap. The election was "rigged". If the Dems could have argued even the slightest point they would still be in court today but,,,, they couldn't that's why Gore and Kerry both conceded the election victory to GWB.

Another person who knows bugger all about Bush v. Gore.

How do you know "Bush got in Yale and Harvard b/c he was wealthy"?

Because that's how these things work. Ever heard of "legacy admissions"?

-The NG and/or a college deferment are not considered a "draft dodger", if you think they are, you have proven yourself to be ignorant on the way our system works.

-"Another person who knows bugger all about Bush v. Gore." - I have NO idea what this means (bugger???).

-Again, just b/c "legacies" exist does not in any way make GWB a legacy. You have absolutely no proof that he was unqualified but, b/c of your arrogance and blind hatred of GWB you still say he wasn't qualified. Basically, you just proved you are talking out your *ss.

[Black Dog]

-The NG and/or a college deferment are not considered a "draft dodger", if you think they are, you have proven yourself to be ignorant on the way our system works.

Technically, both are draft-dodging. in thet they are actions taken to avoid compulsary service.

As for college deferments not being draft dodging, that hasn't stopped conservatives from hanging the label on Clinton. So: either neither Bush not Clinton are draft dodgers, or both are.

-"Another person who knows bugger all about Bush v. Gore." - I have NO idea what this means (bugger???).

It means you don't know nuthin' about the court case Bush v. Gore.

-Again, just b/c "legacies" exist does not in any way make GWB a legacy. You have absolutely no proof that he was unqualified but, b/c of your arrogance and blind hatred of GWB you still say he wasn't qualified. Basically, you just proved you are talking out your *ss.

Ah but I never said he wasn't qualified. I said he got in because of his family connections and socio economic status. If you think his family conections and wealth didn't matter, son, I've got a nice piece of land in Florida to sell....

[newbie]

Dubya went somewhere pretty high up there in the stratosphere and did fairly well. All this nonsense about him being a simpleton is propaganda by bitter lefties and nothing else.

How long have you actually listened to this man - seriously.

link

[sharkman]

Dubya went somewhere pretty high up there in the stratosphere and did fairly well. All this nonsense about him being a simpleton is propaganda by bitter lefties and nothing else.

How long have you actually listened to this man - seriously.

link

I have and don't bother linking to hand picked selections that have been poured over by people that hate him and would love to see him impeached or assassinated or both.

[sharkman]

Ah but I never said he wasn't qualified. I said he got in because of his family connections and socio economic status. If you think his family conections and wealth didn't matter, son, I've got a nice piece of land in Florida to sell....

Geez, man, you'd think Bush was the first president that got somewhere because of connections! They ALL benefit from connectoins and economic status. That's why they're policitians, that's what it's all about.

[newbie]

Dubya went somewhere pretty high up there in the stratosphere and did fairly well. All this nonsense about him being a simpleton is propaganda by bitter lefties and nothing else.

How long have you actually listened to this man - seriously.

link

I have and don't bother linking to hand picked selections that have been poured over by people that hate him and would love to see him impeached or assassinated or both.

Another one bites the dust.

[M.Dancer]

Can't believe I'm the only one who picked Johnson....

[America1]

-The NG and/or a college deferment are not considered a "draft dodger", if you think they are, you have proven yourself to be ignorant on the way our system works.

Technically, both are draft-dodging. in thet they are actions taken to avoid compulsary service.

As for college deferments not being draft dodging, that hasn't stopped conservatives from hanging the label on Clinton. So: either neither Bush not Clinton are draft dodgers, or both are.

-"Another person who knows bugger all about Bush v. Gore." - I have NO idea what this means (bugger???).

It means you don't know nuthin' about the court case Bush v. Gore.

-Again, just b/c "legacies" exist does not in any way make GWB a legacy. You have absolutely no proof that he was unqualified but, b/c of your arrogance and blind hatred of GWB you still say he wasn't qualified. Basically, you just proved you are talking out your *ss.

Ah but I never said he wasn't qualified. I said he got in because of his family connections and socio economic status. If you think his family conections and wealth didn't matter, son, I've got a nice piece of land in Florida to sell....

Lets get something straight, I'm not your Fucking "son"; don't talk down to me.

[KrustyKidd]

How long have you actually listened to this man - seriously.

link

Lots. I see nothing there to warrent a label of a moron . If somebody followed anybody around all day with a microphone lots of gaffs would be heard I'm sure. Ever listen to Cretien? How about his buddy 'Pootine,' the

french fry covered in cheese and gravy President of Russia?

Stronger? More colourful for sure. I can't think of many others who can put "draft dodger", "Failed businessman" and "appointed President" on the same page.

Your military service? Your record in private industry? And, unarguably being chosen by close to half of the voting public in the US twice is hardly "an appointed president".

[Higgly]

Can't believe I'm the only one who picked Johnson....

I picked him too. But the villains in Vietnam were really McNamara and Kissinger.

[Figleaf]

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Edited July 19, 2007 by Figleaf